Eye of Sap is the new OP build

JamieAubrey

9/10 its in my death recap, its getting out of hand, This is me complaining so it gets nerfed again

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Jitterbug

Sap or eye or both?

Rohamad_Ali

Jitterbug wrote: »

Sap or eye or both?

With Grothdar too it's a PVP swirly .

SaRuZ

Sap Essence + Eye of flame = magblade cheese.

JamieAubrey

Jitterbug wrote: »

Sap or eye or both?

Both, NB bomb groups running to you with Eye of flame and then just spamming Sap

Baconlad

Two of these [Snip] hit me and ny 12 man last night. Wiped the [Snip] outa us before we could say "BLOCK" in TS. Lol...all we could do is laugh about it. I have zero problem with the playstyle, its a niche build, built for wrecking mass amounts of players, and its very effective. Not so good against me solo. But they normally just slink away when i come across them.

Balanced, just wait till BG NB bomb groups XD

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DoccEff

Proxy-det + eye of flame + vicious death + grothdar + sap essence -> pvp-bombblade.

Cadbury

And they say NB are weak...

Lord_Eomer

Mage Blades are only good bombers like stamina are good gankers,

Except bombing Mage Blades are pretty bad in PVP..

Rohamad_Ali

DoccEff wrote: »

Proxy-det + eye of flame + vicious death + grothdar + sap essence -> pvp-bombblade.

An one Faso StamDK jumps in the middle and completely wrecks this Magblade .

WalksonGraves

Show us on the doll where the bad man hurt you. I bet that 3k dmg from sap was the killing blow.

Rohamad_Ali

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Show us on the doll where the bad man hurt you. I bet that 3k dmg from sap was the killing blow.

When done in a group with a Sorc dropping suppression field it's a death trap unless a Stamplar or StamDK runs in there and knocks the Magblade back an roots them .

As far the doll ... *points to ever body part*

FerrumnCutem

Can't wait till Zos decides that mgablades are too OP becausr of this and just kill of the magblade concept completely

I would really love to see my main get stomped on again in future patch notes.

Draxys

Nerf builds like this and there will be no point in trying to stand up to the large groups in cyro, you won't have the damage to deal with them. Now, is that a separate problem that should also be addressed? Absolutely yes, but as the game is now, we need those builds.

clocksstoppe

I mean, what do you expect? Without any meaningful objectives other than killing players, pvp simply revolves around how cancerous can you get your build to be. Tremorscale/Proc set 1shots, magplars stacking radiant, poisons that destroy your resources, proxy det + eye + vicious, dk root spam, dk armaments bow 1 shot stealth, there is like an infinite supply of these cancer builds.

Maybe battlegrounds will somehow change that, but until then, all the focus is on killing people, so that's why all the builds are focused on killing people.

Lynx7386

I've been thinking of adding a frost staff back bar to my sap tank for Blockade and the ultimate, wonder if its worth doing...

Rohamad_Ali

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I've been thinking of adding a frost staff back bar to my sap tank for Blockade and the ultimate, wonder if its worth doing...

Frost staff ultimate is even better then flame staff . It slows and roots players down hard . Some solo and small group players run that and can really do a lot of damage

Berenhir

The time has come that PvPers learn a thing or two from PvE folks.
Today: Dont stand in stupid.

Rohamad_Ali

Berenhir wrote: »

The time has come that PvPers learn a thing or two from PvE folks.
Today: Dont stand in stupid.

In PVP it's s little different . You have to identify when you are being led into a choke point or to an area with a group hidden for bombing . Be careful chasing one tank as that is usually the bait . Of course don't stand in red but when they drop suppression field , have a Sorc streak stun or many other root stuns , you are trapped just long enough to get toasted . Situational awareness is most important with a keen eye for setups .

mtwiggz

Get a group of 2-4 bomb blades, a sorc to negate, a good healer and a tank that can survive to group enemies and you'll win PvP.

There is very little skill or tactic left in group PvP. It's mostly who has more dults and who hits who first these days.

br0steen

At least OP is honest. Most people who call for nerfs seem to have this idea that whatever they die from is broken or cancer for x reasons that end up not being good reasons.

"9/10 in my death recap" most honest reason to nerf something ever.

TBois

Get rid of eye or nerf the damage of the morph that follows you. The days of static ultimates (as in ground targeted aoes) were much more fun. It felt like more tactical and engaging group play.

#MAKEVEILGREATAGAIN

cpuScientist

Any mag class with destro ultimate can slot proxy and spam AOE... Jabs Heavy lightning inhale any AOE lol. It's the ultimate doing the job.

DRXHarbinger

TBois wrote: »

Get rid of eye or nerf the damage of the morph that follows you. The days of static ultimates (as in ground targeted aoes) were much more fun. It felt like more tactical and engaging group play.

#MAKEVEILGREATAGAIN

It's been nerfed already. It got 10% knocked off it. Jeez like I said make pvp fists only and that way none of you can cry anything is op.

xeNNNNN

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Jitterbug wrote: »

Sap or eye or both?

Both, NB bomb groups running to you with Eye of flame and then just spamming Sap

SaRuZ wrote: »

Sap Essence + Eye of flame = magblade cheese.

Only true if its a zerg tbh.

People might hold the perception that all bombblades are brainless and cheesey but honestly, its near impossible to wipe coordinated zergs by yourself due to barrier stack and remembrance. Mostly due to the timing and just general heal ammount. Too much and well. Timing wont even matter due to resistance and damage shields and a plethora of other things.

Zergs? yeah cheese bombblades with templar healers.

Good bombblades? Solo/Group Bomb, without healers, kill as much of the zerg you can, get out. Key points: Timing, Self Buff uptime, surviving and getting out so you can do it again if you have to.

Those who zerg with it are just bad as they usually have an insane amount of healing because they cant do anything by themselves..

and before you guess or ask, yes I am a bomb blade.

clocksstoppe

br0steen wrote: »

At least OP is honest. Most people who call for nerfs seem to have this idea that whatever they die from is broken or cancer for x reasons that end up not being good reasons.

"9/10 in my death recap" most honest reason to nerf something ever.

This cause of death is 0/10 times in my death recap because i don't stay with large groups. Therefore eye and sap are underpowered and should be buffed. Foolproof logic there, buddy.

Shadow_Viper_vX

It's Fine, Learn to Play

Adapt and Overcome

Stop Crying...

Betheny

---Depressed and angry pvper thread---

UppGRAYxDD

All this thread needs is alittle dash of nerf Templar and it is the perfect

Betheny wrote: »

---Depressed and angry pvper thread---

waterfairy

Don't stand in the fire with the rest of the zerg

Avran_Sylt

I *** love seeing players doing that. I'm running a frost tank that focuses on CC, not damage. So i see one running up, I pop em with chilling grasp. Immobilizes with a reach of 36m. Try to proc my stam/mag poisons and I keep popping chilling grasp so they're forced to stop spamming sap and focus on roll dodging and resource management.