Jewels of Misrule?

ButcharPete

Totally unrelated to this post, but can someone please tell me how to send a quick message to someone on the forums? I have a few questions to ask someone. I'm new and I just joined yesterday.

Eleusian

I got that one first box , to early in the event to know it would be rare. I'm sure last day I will have to scramble to find something that doesn't wanna give itself to me. On onather note got like 5 banners in a row now

MachineKludge

I have enough banners for 3 accounts, not counting the banners for 8 toons on my actual account. I have enough of each recipe (except 1) to cover 3 toons and for the green recipes I have all 8 toons. I have gotten 8x Cherry Blossom Branch, so I'm guessing I won't be selling the other 7 for much. I have plenty of sparklers and can easily get that achievement for 8 toons.

Shor's bones I cannot find the Dubious Camoran Throne!!!

Best case scenario, I can run the 3 quests in 40 minutes. On average, counting time killing delve and overland bosses, it is an hour to run these all through.

Compared to previous Holiday Events, I am not happy with the cost/reward. I would at least like to get all the achievements for 1 toon and then use the rest of my play time to take advantage of the XP bonus. However, for this event I am spending all my time just trying to get enough drops for one toon.

I wish I could trade with one of the jesters. I would gladly trade 24 purple banners for one Dubious Camoran Throne. (I just noticed these are bound, so I can't even try to sell them!!!)

MasterSpatula

zyk wrote: »

I think this is a good thing. Purple items should be rare and therefore valuable. In previous festivals, I was disappointed about how common the purple and yellow items were.

It would be a pretty boring MMO without rare and exclusive treasure to obtain.

Let me get this straight. You thought Fish-Eye Rye was too... common?

I'm not positive we're playing the same game, you and I.

Stannum

Got 4 of them without farming (done event quests only on one char and not even every day). One learnt, one traded for stamina version reciept and still have two more.

Betsararie

zyk wrote: »

I think this is a good thing. Purple items should be rare and therefore valuable. In previous festivals, I was disappointed about how common the purple and yellow items were.

It would be a pretty boring MMO without rare and exclusive treasure to obtain.

Sure, but why is it that the purple furniture and purple recipe have such obviously different drop rates?

Being that they bear an equal level of rarity, it would only make sense for their drop rates to be relatively close to one another.

Of course we have observed that this is not the case.

I have found that the colorings are arbitrary in many instances and not indicative of any level of difficulty of obtaining the item.

Such as quest rewards, etc.

zaria

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Karkian wrote: »

I've seen some on PS4 NA In Mournhold for the "low price" of 70k lol. Luckily I got a second Camoran recipe which I traded for Misrule.

LOL, bought one for resale at 5k, Camoran is extremely nice, misrule is for achievement only.

Good for stamblade Pvp.

Yes, obvios PvE min maxer here

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Directed at myself as I was thinking of that useful in PvE only,

Turelus

I just purchased this after days of trying to get one.

Shopped around and found one for 7k (MM 30k PC EU) so purchased it and now don't have to worry about the achievement any more.

MasterSpatula

Just did another run of all six characters without a purple recipe. I've been at 5 Thrones and 3 Jewels for two days now. I have just realized that, despite running this six times a night (except two nights where I had to work late and only got in three runs), it is now improbable to the point of a statistical impossibility for me to get the achievement on all six characters without buying the recipe.

And considering how many times I've run the damned thing, the idea of actually buying the recipes is a thing I cannot justify.

mr_wazzabi

Blanco wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

One thing I want to add is I do like the Rng factor from the event, games need some level of challenge or else they're just boring and unfulfilling.

RNG is never "challenge". They're 2 different ideas that often oppose each other.

Ever play a game where you had to roll for loot from a boss? The best player that saved the entire raid(often the tank or healer) would have no better chance at getting the wanted item than anybody else and often would lose out because the drop rate would be stupid low.
I used to play WoW and did a calculation arguing for individual player loot and increased drop rates for the phoeniz mount they had there. If drop rates were perfect with that 2% rate on a weekly reset for the boss that dropped it then one player could be guaranteed to get it only after 50 weeks running it. Now, this was 25 player content. That means 50 weeks multiplied by 25 for everyone who was only playing content for that mount to get the mount.
That game hasn't even been out long enough for everyone to get it in a perfect world. The world is imperfect though as all drop chances are server side across the entire population with no weighting system to eventually relent and give players what they are after with enough effort.

RNG is there to keep stuff away from you no matter how hard you try because of the simple fact that nothing can ever be made challenging enough to limit it while still being desirable to consumers.
People hate working harder than they should have to but are addicted to gambling for a chance at "easy stuff".

So, definitely don't compare RNG to challenge.

The problem I have with your post is that obtaining items with low drop rates is indeed a challenge.

Just in the way that winning the "top jackpot" in slots is a massive challenge.

It may not be a test of skill, more a test of luck, but yes the word challenge fits here and either of the aforementioned examples would indeed be decribed as great challenges.

Prerequisite of challenge =/= skill based, git gud.

Rng is not a challenge. It is luck. The definition of a challenge is a task that takes a certain amount of skill or talent to complete successfully. Getting a lucky drop does not meet this criteria.

Tandor

Do we know if all of the recipes can drop in any of the starting zones or is each one tied to a particular zone? I've got several of the Thrones but none of the Jewels, and am basically only doing the Glenumbra quest as I find the others too tedious to be bothering with.

Stannum

btw do you know that you can tp to ebonheart shrine with pig making stealth journay much shorter.

Cryptical

Stannum wrote: »

btw do you know that you can tp to ebonheart shrine with pig making stealth journay much shorter.

You can gallop through completely in the time it takes to teleport halfway.

MNsnowtaTy

Tandor wrote: »

Do we know if all of the recipes can drop in any of the starting zones or is each one tied to a particular zone? I've got several of the Thrones but none of the Jewels, and am basically only doing the Glenumbra quest as I find the others too tedious to be bothering with.

I've gotten them all over, it's just luck. Took me a while to get the Dubious Cameron Throne recipe, but I believe I had four of the Jewels of Misrule recipes before I got the Dubious recipe, but now I'm at about 6 to 3. Tables seemed to have turned the other way.

Tabbycat

I saw it posted on a couple traders for 40-50K. I'm not willing to shell out that much gold for an achievement. I'll just do without if I don't get the recipe drop before the end of the event.

Jemcrystal

zyk wrote: »

I think this is a good thing. Purple items should be rare and therefore valuable. In previous festivals, I was disappointed about how common the purple and yellow items were.

It would be a pretty boring MMO without rare and exclusive treasure to obtain.

So true but the down side to this is anyone who starts a festival event toward it's end is screhwed.

the_plan

Long shot: does anyone have a spare Jewels of Misrule and want to trade for Dubious Camoran Throne or the Cherry blossom branch runebox?

seaef

I got 7 and sold all except the one I learned.

However the Dubious Camoran Throne recipe never dropped for me. I gave up and bought it with part of the proceeds from the Misrule sales.

worsttankever

I bought all recipes , including Dubious Cameron, for under 3k each. PS4 NA. Yeah it took an hour of searching guild stores in both DLC and multiple factions - but I saw other offers as low as 25-35k for Dubious and Jewel.. I didn't do a single Jester quest as I had limited time and wanted the recipes only. I was in the middle of moving apartments, and the fiancé would have killed me if she caught me gaming rather than unpacking boxes. A lot of these events are a grind. Better to buy from the player economy.