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Are scrolls always there on vet dungeons even if the optional scroll isnt on the quest?
No, some dungeons require a different set of criteria to complete hard mode. An example is keeping four (4) wraiths alive during the Nerien'eth encounter.
"May you walk on warm sands."
"First, I would ask that you look to the poor and the suffering around Cyrodiil. Look into their hearts, and then look into your own."
"May Auri-El's light guide you in your darkest hours."
The thing to realize is that those scrolls of glorious battle were added on later, to add a hard mode to the pile of dungeons that didn't have a hard mode when they got detached from their Part 2 story lines.
Example: it used to be, you went to a dungeon. If you went on normal, you played the storyline "fungal grotto: the movie". If you went on vet, you played the storyline "fungal grotto 2:the sequel movie". You couldn't play the first movie on vet difficulty, and you couldn't play the sequel on normal; until they separated the dungeon story into 1 and 2.
Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50
Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50
Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50
Jorleif the Bear-King - EP DK - 50
Ko'Shariba-do - EP Sorc - 50
Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50
Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50
More-Tail - EP Warden - 50
Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50
Az the Bulwark of Skål - EP Warden - 50
Rilasi Sedas - EP Warden - 50
Rayna Andalen - EP Templar - 50