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No CP in battlegrounds
Qyrk
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Confirmed! With people liking no-CP campaigns after the the double AP event, BGs will turn into interesting fights.
Edited by Qyrk on March 17, 2017 7:33PM 13
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KingKush✭✭✭✭Nice. How it should be. Last thing we need is each battleground match lasting an hour cause no one is dying.Xbox NA
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Potenza✭✭✭✭✭If this is true, I will try the BG's out - I was not even going to bother with CP's.8 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Didn't watch ESO live, but a friend confirmed that battlegrounds will be no CP. This will likely get a lot of negative feedback because poisons and proc sets are even more OP with no CP.
I personally don't care, but I know it will be tough for my magic sorc friends.3 -
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✭✭✭...Edited by andreasranasen on March 17, 2017 8:05PM#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah confirmed on ESO Live.
Personally I am for it as it means less one shot or infinite tank builds, should be interesting.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."5 -
Potenza✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: ».Thanks to all whiny players out there
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No CP's does require more skill without the CP crutch.Edited by Potenza on March 17, 2017 8:09PM7 -
mesmerizedish✭✭✭✭✭They only said they're leaning toward it, not confirming it.
That said, I hope they do go this route. I like CP in PvE environments, but I'd prefer a leveler playing field for PvP.7 -
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✭puh-lease no CP. Even as someone with maxed out CP, I want to dunce my head off the wall when there's a fight that goes on for two decades thanks to CP mitigation and sustain bonuses.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Didn't watch ESO live, but a friend confirmed that battlegrounds will be no CP. This will likely get a lot of negative feedback because poisons and proc sets are even more OP with no CP.
I personally don't care, but I know it will be tough for my magic sorc friends.
I was a bit miffed on poisons being in there but I don't buy the proc sets being stronger. Seems hard to build for sustain you might want and need along with damage and still have procs save for a couple that work soly off of light attack and those need to be killed with fire anyway from the game.1 -
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✭✭✭j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: ».Thanks to all whiny players out there
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No CP's does require more skill without the CP crutch.
"Crutch"? Then let's be go ahead and remove proc sets as well while we at it.#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
- Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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✭✭✭ESO turning into Guild Wars 2 with their horizontal progression...#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
- Mag Sorc: Arya Rosendahl - Altmer - Highelf
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SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭As much as I hate no cp pvp(and I hate it more than anyone I know), no cp battlegrounds is definitely the way to go.It will also make players be more thoughtful about their resources.
No, sustain is basically the exact same once you've adjusted your build. A Magdk for instance can run 2x Bloodspawn 5x Heavy Seducer, 5x Alteration & 1 Cost reduction and have basically endless sustain.Edited by SnubbS on March 17, 2017 8:21PM0 -
Potenza✭✭✭✭✭andreasranasen wrote: »j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: ».Thanks to all whiny players out there
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No CP's does require more skill without the CP crutch.
"Crutch"? Then let's be go ahead and remove proc sets as well while we at it.
Yes, I agree with that too. Proc sets are a joke - "you killed me with your armor"8 -
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Is that a bad thing?andreasranasen wrote: »ESO turning into Guild Wars 2 with their horizontal progression...
For ESO it might not be for a little while just so we can catch our breath and get some game balance back rather than upping the CP caps every update.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."4 -
SneaK✭✭✭✭✭Why not both? Does ZOS have some hidden agenda to remove CP from the game?
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✭andreasranasen wrote: »j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »andreasranasen wrote: ».Thanks to all whiny players out there
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No CP's does require more skill without the CP crutch.
"Crutch"? Then let's be go ahead and remove proc sets as well while we at it.
They already blanket nerfed proc sets by removing their ability to crit. I don't agree with it, think it could have been handled better with some number tweaks or changing the 2-4 bonuses on sets with procs but... well, that would've taken more work than ZOS was apparently ready for.
Yes, CP is a crutch. It's free max resources, mitigation, damage, sustain, other little boons from the point stars... You can play a lot sloppier versus a person with lower CP than you than someone on a level field, in PvP. Whatever in Cyrodiil AvAvA where you have all sorts of gear, CP, and skill levels and masses of people skrimishing and clashing.
Battlegrounds should be the chance for ZOS to look at how things perform in a vacuum, IMO. I'd find it pretty intriguing if there were a Battlegrounds league that only allowed specialized gear sets or some such.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand the point in keeping the champion points system if they are not going to continue making content for it . Feels like a wasted grind . Ignoring it is not addressing the problem . This means gearing differently for some classes also . A pain as well and expensive .
I know it will help with balance making these no cp but some day the problem needs to corrected . Along with proc sets .8 -
makeumrage✭✭✭Maybe I missunderstood... but wjat i got from it was battlegroudns will have a no cp varriany. Not all no cp1 -
austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Disagree with this. Was planning to run a Healer in BG'S. No CP forces me into light armor as a healer so I become NB fodder.PC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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✭✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Disagree with this. Was planning to run a Healer in BG'S. No CP forces me into light armor as a healer so I become NB fodder.
It should be easier to keep shields up because you don't have to ride a horse.0 -
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austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Disagree with this. Was planning to run a Healer in BG'S. No CP forces me into light armor as a healer so I become NB fodder.
It should be easier to keep shields up because you don't have to ride a horse.
While true. Shields are lacking unless you stack them or you're a sorcPC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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✭✭✭✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Didn't watch ESO live, but a friend confirmed that battlegrounds will be no CP. This will likely get a lot of negative feedback because poisons and proc sets are even more OP with no CP.
I personally don't care, but I know it will be tough for my magic sorc friends.
Poisons will be mandatory for BG competitiveness in a no-CP environment, tbh. The problem is that this reduces build diversity, there will be 0 reason to run anything other than poisons.5 -
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✭As much as I hate no cp pvp(and I hate it more than anyone I know), no cp battlegrounds is definitely the way to go.It will also make players be more thoughtful about their resources.
No, sustain is basically the exact same once you've adjusted your build. A Magdk for instance can run 2x Bloodspawn 5x Heavy Seducer, 5x Alteration & 1 Cost reduction and have basically endless sustain.
Yes for that build, you may have endless sustain, but you're not talking about A LOT of people who will try Battlegrounds. I, myself, can pvp and have awesome sustain in Azura (non-CP campaign), and many people I encounter do not know how to sustain their resources. My comment still applies, that many players will be more thoughtful about their resources - just because I'm saying that doesn't mean endless sustain in no-CP battleground is impossible anymore.Edited by Qyrk on March 17, 2017 8:31PM0 -
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✭✭No CP shifts balance a bit in favor of certain kinds of builds. At least I find it's a lot easier with my stam NB for example.
I hope there will be the option for both CP and non-CP matches. This is not like an entire Cyrodiil campaign - you only need 12 players for each instance, so why not make them both available?2 -
Ron_Burgundy_79✭✭✭✭✭Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »Didn't watch ESO live, but a friend confirmed that battlegrounds will be no CP. This will likely get a lot of negative feedback because poisons and proc sets are even more OP with no CP.
I personally don't care, but I know it will be tough for my magic sorc friends.
I was a bit miffed on poisons being in there but I don't buy the proc sets being stronger. Seems hard to build for sustain you might want and need along with damage and still have procs save for a couple that work soly off of light attack and those need to be killed with fire anyway from the game.
I run 5 seducer 5 lich (back bar sword and board) 2 willpower and 2 skoria in no cp. I have endless sustain on my magplar and still hit hard. It's not always about spell/weapon damage when everyone is running around with 1200 crit resistance.0 -
bubbygink✭✭✭✭✭I'm fine with no CP in battlegrounds but cost increase poisons need to be nerfed or not allowed in battlegrounds either.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Why are people saying it's confirmed when Rich just said they're leaning towards it?6 -
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✭That's great to hear because no CP week was great and did require more skill4