We need more RNG

HuawaSepp

Everyone knows that everyone loves RNG. So we clearly need more.
Here my idea:

Think of a DLC dungeon. It comes out and a few trys later you get speedrun, no death and hardmode in one run.
And then, it’s boring, always the same…
Now why not making four lists of enemys. A easy list, a medium list, a hard list and an extreme list.
In all lists is the same amount of enemys. In the easy one things like a Skeever and in the extreme the first boss of vICP for example.
Now we have an empty dungeon. Goal is to survive, let’s say 30 min AND reach the other end of the dungeon.
Every minute eight random enemys appear, randomly chosen from the lists.
Maybe only from one list, maybe from all four. In normal mode the extreme list won’t be chosen.
And if you pass the dungeon you get something, but no crap, hopefully

The second thing is that we need something like an arena where we have to survive as long as possible against waves of enemys that get more difficult per wave.

Just my 2147483647 cents.

kuro-dono

sorry with that but eso doesnt need more epeening as it already has enough of it. too much problems inc that way. n00bs will complain that too hard when they try the extreme and so on. you need golden middle road stuff, instead of white vs black stuff.

kuro-dono

before that could reasonably happen, zenimax has to destroy power creep. quite few ways to do that, so not impossible task. then balance the classes. then we can start think stuff like this.

currently, we have certain builds/class that could easily do this. which only 0.0000001% of population could get done, hence epeen paradise.

HuawaSepp

kuro-dono wrote: »

before that could reasonably happen, zenimax has to destroy power creep. quite few ways to do that, so not impossible task. then balance the classes. then we can start think stuff like this.

currently, we have certain builds/class that could easily do this. which only 0.0000001% of population could get done, hence epeen paradise.

Hm sounds bad xD.
I understand but all the stuff gets boring for a good group.
We need some "oh ***" moments, someting you would not expect, a way to epically loose through a wave of 2 bosses or whatever.

Even if the dungeon is always the same one.
And if your group is dead you have to restart from beginning.

I hope there is a way to get that.

kuro-dono

before that zenimax has to fix their game. too many important aspects of the game is broken.

HuawaSepp

kuro-dono wrote: »

before that zenimax has to fix their game.

Mission Impossible begins...

t3hdubzy

So horde mode? Zombies mode?

HuawaSepp

t3hdubzy wrote: »

So horde mode? Zombies mode?

Yeah

ColoursYouHave

Idk about a bunch of RNG, but some sort of Zombie mode with waves of mobs where you lose once you die actually sounds pretty fun. Maybe that could be their form of 2-man content that some people have been asking for, or they could have it be 1-4, with the quantity and difficulty of the mobs scaling per number of players.

tinythinker

A dungeon that changes each time you run it?

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Palace_of_the_Dead

It has been done, with exploding treasure chests and a chance to try other classes and earn unique gear as an alternative to the usual grind. Whether ZOS would consider a random dungeon and how it would be developed to fit ESO mechanics are the roadblocks.

Izaki

Zombie mode basically?

Decado

I'm afraid you my friend shall burn in the depths of hell for saying something nice about RNG.

HuawaSepp

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

Zombie mode basically?

Yeah, or waves of enemys, maybe random.

Decado wrote: »

I'm afraid you my friend shall burn in the depths of hell for saying something nice about RNG.

It's about time, the mad lord is waiting for me already.

HatchetHaro

So, like, Warframe survival missions? Yeah that sounds interesting, but there are going to be so many ways to cheese it. It then becomes some endless grind with people hosting runs that last several hours with everyone just sitting in one place and spamming one skill for RNGesus to bless them with a Ash Prime Systems BP sharpened Burning Spellweave inferno staff.

Oh, also, think of the elitism! Oh, you're not a MR 21 EV Trinity cp 600 Templar with Repentance? GTFO of our cheese comp.

Ep1kMalware

HuawaSepp wrote: »

Everyone knows that everyone loves RNG. So we clearly need more.
Here my idea:

Think of a DLC dungeon. It comes out and a few trys later you get speedrun, no death and hardmode in one run.
And then, it’s boring, always the same…
Now why not making four lists of enemys. A easy list, a medium list, a hard list and an extreme list.
In all lists is the same amount of enemys. In the easy one things like a Skeever and in the extreme the first boss of vICP for example.
Now we have an empty dungeon. Goal is to survive, let’s say 30 min AND reach the other end of the dungeon.
Every minute eight random enemys appear, randomly chosen from the lists.
Maybe only from one list, maybe from all four. In normal mode the extreme list won’t be chosen.
And if you pass the dungeon you get something, but no crap, hopefully

The second thing is that we need something like an arena where we have to survive as long as possible against waves of enemys that get more difficult per wave.

Just my 2147483647 cents.

Have you ever been to vet maelstrom before?

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shadowwraith666

HatchetHaro wrote: »

So, like, Warframe survival missions? Yeah that sounds interesting, but there are going to be so many ways to cheese it. It then becomes some endless grind with people hosting runs that last several hours with everyone just sitting in one place and spamming one skill for RNGesus to bless them with a Ash Prime Systems BP sharpened Burning Spellweave inferno staff.

Oh, also, think of the elitism! Oh, you're not a MR 21 EV Trinity cp 600 Templar with Repentance? GTFO of our cheese comp.

be grateful we don't have an ESO equivalent of the simulor+mirage combo

HuawaSepp

HatchetHaro wrote: »

So, like, Warframe survival missions? Yeah that sounds interesting, but there are going to be so many ways to cheese it. It then becomes some endless grind with people hosting runs that last several hours with everyone just sitting in one place and spamming one skill for RNGesus to bless them with a Ash Prime Systems BP sharpened Burning Spellweave inferno staff.

Oh, also, think of the elitism! Oh, you're not a MR 21 EV Trinity cp 600 Templar with Repentance? GTFO of our cheese comp.

Yeah that's exactly the reason I mentioned random mobs of a random difficulty, to lower the grind level.

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

HuawaSepp wrote: »

Everyone knows that everyone loves RNG. So we clearly need more.
Here my idea:

Think of a DLC dungeon. It comes out and a few trys later you get speedrun, no death and hardmode in one run.
And then, it’s boring, always the same…
Now why not making four lists of enemys. A easy list, a medium list, a hard list and an extreme list.
In all lists is the same amount of enemys. In the easy one things like a Skeever and in the extreme the first boss of vICP for example.
Now we have an empty dungeon. Goal is to survive, let’s say 30 min AND reach the other end of the dungeon.
Every minute eight random enemys appear, randomly chosen from the lists.
Maybe only from one list, maybe from all four. In normal mode the extreme list won’t be chosen.
And if you pass the dungeon you get something, but no crap, hopefully

The second thing is that we need something like an arena where we have to survive as long as possible against waves of enemys that get more difficult per wave.

Just my 2147483647 cents.

Have you ever been to vet maelstrom before?

Yeah I am eso+ member and found MSA.
Well, after I got all MSA achievements I didn't run it until the busts for housing came out.
Or did you think I would run MSA for the weapons?
I craft or buy my stuff and ,much worse, I only gear and play on my magicka NB. All my alts are crafters.
On vMoL first and second boss I only pull 45-50k atm and all the sorcs are laughing but never ever I would grind such a MSA inferno xD

Ep1kMalware

Must be nice to run vmol. Since maintainance I've been lagging out constantly. Can't run a normal dungoeon without huge pauses, flying around the screen, disconnects lasting 10min+

Dice is getting my eso+ this month. Was just starting to really get into eso again since they fixed alot of the pre 1 tamriel lag issues. Damn it >.<

HuawaSepp

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Must be nice to run vmol. Since maintainance I've been lagging out constantly. Can't run a normal dungoeon without huge pauses, flying around the screen, disconnects lasting 10min+

Dice is getting my eso+ this month. Was just starting to really get into eso again since they fixed alot of the pre 1 tamriel lag issues. Damn it >.<

Hm, if there are other players who can play without that issues you can easily rent a cheap server and use it for vpn.
That was what I did with my old internet provider and same issues. In my case it was the TS server of a friend so no costs but 5$ isn't that much anyways.