Not veryhappy with the cheating in pvp

WhiteMage

Duiwel wrote: »

WhiteMage wrote: »

Even the horrendous grammar didn't annoy me as much as the misuse of logic, particularly the "proven fact" part.

@WhiteMage

It's to solidify truth & add to the core argument that Daggerfall are not fair players?

This has nothing to do with general discussion OP I suggest you read up on forum etiquette.

Ehm... what? The internet can be a very poor communication tool at times, particularly when sufficient punctuation is not utilized to signal pauses, transitions, and the like. With that in mind, can you clarify whether you are using sarcasm or irony? If not, I may begin a rant on logic and words meaning what they are supposed to mean.

Johngo0036

Hi,

Cheating is an issue on all platforms and even though Zenni claim they are monitoring i honestly dont believe this for one second,

The use of the MIATS addon on Pc is proof of this and still i dont believe zenni has made a ruling on this or even banned anyone, When i pull a heavy attack on a guy on his horse from stealth and he dismounts into a block i know he is using it, THIS IS CHEATING...

Also the use of Cheat Engine, is it truly totally irradicated, well I dunno....

Why PLAY the game if you have to use cheats to win.. that is counter to why you play....

As far as being fair is concerned there are no FACTIONs that play fair, NONE. They all zerg after one player to get a kill. Unfortunately this is what the game has become with Wrobels brilliant inventions that he introduced into the game,
Vicious death, Proxy detonation and the likes...

Its not about skill but rather about who has the biggest zerg.

Syntse

IronCrystal wrote: »

I love how people claim there's no cheating on consoles and its all on PC.

I'm curious what kind of cheating there is on consoles? And if there is some forum or site for eso cheats for consoles.

Exploiting something I can understand that people might do if possible but something similar to the Cheat Engine issue PC has I really doubt.

makeumrage

Johngo0036 wrote: »

Hi,

Cheating is an issue on all platforms and even though Zenni claim they are monitoring i honestly dont believe this for one second,

The use of the MIATS addon on Pc is proof of this and still i dont believe zenni has made a ruling on this or even banned anyone, When i pull a heavy attack on a guy on his horse from stealth and he dismounts into a block i know he is using it, THIS IS CHEATING...

Also the use of Cheat Engine, is it truly totally irradicated, well I dunno....

Why PLAY the game if you have to use cheats to win.. that is counter to why you play....

As far as being fair is concerned there are no FACTIONs that play fair, NONE. They all zerg after one player to get a kill. Unfortunately this is what the game has become with Wrobels brilliant inventions that he introduced into the game,
Vicious death, Proxy detonation and the likes...

Its not about skill but rather about who has the biggest zerg.

Zenimax gave the Miats the big A-OK buddy... said it didnt violate anything. Read forums more, dev tracker is your buddy. Although I heard it got nerfed with the housing update. (Im on console dunno these things forsure)

Everstorm

People descending into us vs them rants over imaginary factions...

Johngo0036

@makeumrage - Then i can just as well download cheat engine and start using that..

do you have the link to that article.

makeumrage

Johngo0036 wrote: »

@makeumrage - Then i can just as well download cheat engine and start using that..

do you have the link to that article.

Search is ya best friend. The addon is nothing like cheat engine... i suggest you do more homework on the two differences. I think all you PC people are playing ESO light with your addons personally...

Heres the post, they found nothing wrong and told the guy he could use it without being banned. But as far as I know, theyve changed the way there system works cutting back on what the addon does.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Miat’s PVP Alerts addon was brought to our attention earlier in the week, and we’ve been running some internal tests on it to gauge functionality and impact. We are still evaluating this addon, and may make changes to the game’s API as a result. Here’s an explanation of how it works, and what it does and doesn’t do:

Miat’s PVP Alerts addon is built upon actions done by players that the combat log records. This includes sprinting, casting an ability, weapon swapping, drinking a potion, stealthing, etc. If a player executes any of those actions, basic messages are sent to the server and clients. This mod hooks into those notifications and filters them to give information about who is in the area. That info is then turned into either a KOS list determined by the player, a stealthier list, or simply an incremental value of players in the area (all are a rough estimation.)

The KOS list, specifically, is simply another layer on top of the above options, where the addon looks for specific players that you can choose to add to a list. When those players perform an action within your existing area of detection, you will be notified that they are in the area. You are not provided info on exactly where they are. Here are a few specific examples:

• If someone is in your existing area of detection and they fully enter stealth, the addon will notify you of the name of the player character that successfully went fully “hidden.”
• If someone is already stealthed and you’re traveling near then, or enter the area they were initially already stealthed in, you will not be notified of that player.
• If someone uses a Nightblade ability that results in them vanishing, they will not trigger the addon’s alert unless they enter the real “hidden” state (i.e. the eye on the HUD is closed).

Lastly this addon adds a kill spam list which shows you when someone has died in your existing area of detection, and to what ability. When you first get these messages, it simply says “Someone has died to Dark Flare.” When you start to get more information on the players around you, it adds that player name to the Saved Variables file for PVPAlerts.lua, then starts to add that information into your UI while playing.

Note that in all the above examples, you are not notified of exactly where the player is. This addon does not add a little blip to your map or compass, and does not give you an overlay that points out specifically where players are. This addon is not radar, a Doppler, or any other means of giving away another player’s exact position.

We want to thank everyone for sharing your concerns with us about this addon.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

Are we allowed to use this addon until you decide upon a judgement?

At this time, we will not be taking action on accounts using this addon.

Dhukath

Cheating aside, surely any tactic or play that beats the enemy is valid. Its not like there's a United Nations of Tamriel.

Vaoh

Attackopsn wrote: »

Yeah them der daggercrawl covenants teken ar jobs!

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

XD

DRXHarbinger

What exactly is this cheating on console? I see no proof other than typical calling wolf.

FloppyTouch

well if OP says DC is cheating then the next logical step is to bann all DC players from pvp forever.

Vaoh

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What exactly is this cheating on console? I see no proof other than typical calling wolf.

I've never once experienced any sort of true "cheating" in console PvP either.

There have been bugged sets (Pheonix set a year ago) and a few other things along those lines but that's about it.

Mayrael

You rebel scums! Blah blah blah... There is no sucha things like DC>AD>EP (random order). After years of playing you can see clearly that all factions are in general the same. Two weaker factions at the moment unite to stomp a stronger one, we all calculate how to make our faction stronger and we all do what we have to do to achieve our goals. Until its not cheating (I mean real cheating - no, using stone trebuchet to kill somebody isnt cheating, also using poisons or pushing someone of the wall isnt cheating to) Im ok with that. Yes there are some anoying tactics used by factions or single players (like taking scroll to farm people who are trying to recover it or NBs that try to gank you and when they fail instead of fighting they runaway to try to gank you one more time) but you cant call them cheaters, its the way they paly and you need to deal with it

DurzoBlint13

I find this hilarious considering it is EP on PS4/NA that constantly makes deals with AD and uses ever exploit they can find. They are also notorious for paying other guilds to come help if one guild get wiped a couple times.
Its not the faction, its the players.
Also OP, please learn a little punctuation and grammar etiquette if you want anyone to take you seriously. It gave me half a headache trying to read that mess

Tommy_The_Gun

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What exactly is this cheating on console? I see no proof other than typical calling wolf.

Yeah.. I would like to know that too. On PC you have add-ons so technically some could provide usefully information (can be considered cheats).
Other stuff is related to game mechanics and exploiting its design flaws.

In 3 v 3 match in any RTS there is a moment when 2 players gank up this one player. It is the same in eso PvP - when sometimes (even if only small portion of players do this) it looks like well coordinated attack (30 vs 2 x 30). it Happens often in PvP on PC - but hey.. you can farm a ton of alliance point that way... xD (especially when you are defending keep).

And don't look at the colours. Usually people have more than one character assigned to the same camping - so they can switch side just by login-off and then login-in on other character (which btw. I think is the most game breaking exploit).

When something in PvP goes really bad for you / your alliance - just think of AP you farmed. It is always works and brings smile.

Cheers !

DRXHarbinger

Vaoh wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What exactly is this cheating on console? I see no proof other than typical calling wolf.

I've never once experienced any sort of true "cheating" in console PvP either.

There have been bugged sets (Pheonix set a year ago) and a few other things along those lines but that's about it.

Neither have I. We can't mundus glitch in console anymore and survey glitch and mol glitch is fixed so there isn't anything.

Or is this now what pvpers say after having everything nerfed in game that since they are still getting killed that the other person is a hacker?

Next week's event in Cyro is going to be fun. Everyone is going to cry when they realise how bad regen is with no CP. The guy who dodge rolls more than once will be a cheater fo sho.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What exactly is this cheating on console? I see no proof other than typical calling wolf.

Yeah.. I would like to know that too. On PC you have add-ons so technically some could provide usefully information (can be considered cheats).
Other stuff is related to game mechanics and exploiting its design flaws.

In 3 v 3 match in any RTS there is a moment when 2 players gank up this one player. It is the same in eso PvP - when sometimes (even if only small portion of players do this) it looks like well coordinated attack (30 vs 2 x 30). it Happens often in PvP on PC - but hey.. you can farm a ton of alliance point that way... xD (especially when you are defending keep).

And don't look at the colours. Usually people have more than one character assigned to the same camping - so they can switch side just by login-off and then login-in on other character (which btw. I think is the most game breaking exploit).

When something in PvP goes really bad for you / your alliance - just think of AP you farmed. It is always works and brings smile.

Cheers !

Add a 15 minute cooldown before switching alliances, like group finder.

Turelus

New year same threads.

I wonder if there is an agreement you have to sign when you join a faction in which you must always blame every other faction for foul play whilst never speaking of your own factions foul play. I guess if there is I missed it.

Let's make this simple with big letters.

THERE ARE CHEATERS/EXPLOITERS/TROLLS IN ESO.

THEY ARE IN EVERY FACTION.

JUST BECAUSE ANOTHER FACTION IS WINNING DOESN'T MAKE THEM THE ABOVE.

JUST BECAUSE YOU DIED DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYER WHO KILLED YOU THE ABOVE.

That's all, just click the awesome button below to reinforce my self worth as a forums poster.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Wow, just wow.

EP console player here. Please don't listen to this guy. In almost 2 years of PVP I've even had an inkling that something was up with someone less than 10 times, and every one of those players got banned. Cheating in a breaking the code of the game sense happens really infrequently.

As for this example, there are plenty of sets that can be put together so that it requires multiple people to kill someone. I'm going to guess that this "simple country boy" missed the class on how to build one just like he missed the grammar class.

As for factions working together, they all do it. I don't, but that's my choice. Just yesterday I found a DC tent side by side with an AD tent. I didn't complain about it, I just burnt one of them down and let my teammates get the other one.

TLDR: Cheating on console from a technical standpoint does not happen in 99.9999999% of cases. Exploiting can but those people get booted eventually. Every faction teams up from time to time. Nothing to see here.

ZOS_JohanaB

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