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Chrysa1is

Never known a company to reap and milk the cash out of our pockets as much as ZO$. And what a way for them to try and force you into buying ESO plus by making it so that you can't furnish your house with as much as an ESO plus member. If you were a max level character before Homestead, the only decent thing about ESO plus was the craft bag, and it is almost like they realised how pointless it was to be an ESO plus member with a max level character because you can't really benefit from what it offered.

I think the capacity for the total amount of player in a large house is stupid and not what I was expecting. 12 players in a large house? I honestly thought this whole time it was 25? Unless that privilege goes to the ESO plus members which again makes me feel annoyed, almost like I'm not good enough, and full access sits behind a pay wall. Not fair, I would never pay for ESO plus unless it offered truly unique access to the game, because giving me 300 capacity for furnishings and an ESO plus member 600 capacity isn't and shouldn't be what being an ESO plus member is all about. Unless I genuinely struggle and need more capacity to decorate my home, then I will understand the benefit of ESO plus this time, but again, 300 is alot and i'm not going to fill my house with stupid food decorations etc.



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anitajoneb17_ESO

I'm not sure whether you mean that ESO+ privileges are too few or too many, honestly.

Khami

Go play the F2P version of SW:TOR and come back and apology to ZOS.

BioWare hasn't added a four-man dungeon or a raid in over two years. They turned a MMO into a single player game and you still need to sub to rid the gates BioWare has in place.

ZOS has no gates in place which forces you to sub so you can get the gear from a quest reward.

Skinzz

Its not even that bad. I pay for xbox live monthly so with eso plus its like $30 a month.

Khami

xskinzcity wrote: »

Its not even that bad. I pay for xbox live monthly so with eso plus its like $30 a month.

Go to Amazon and get a yearly gold card and stop giving MS your money monthly.

idk

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'm not sure whether you mean that ESO+ privileges are too few or too many, honestly.

Rage threads are never clear other than the rage.

SaRuZ

You also get 1,500 crowns a month. The sub pays for itself. It's ok to be upset. I wish I could help you, I will be too busy reaching my 700 subbed furniture cap though, sorry

Voxicity

So basically,

You don't like ESO+

And you'll never buy ESO+

Case closed?

Kodrac

Pony up, freeloader!

Chrysa1is

I just don't think ESO plus is worth it. And I find it annoying that you get extra furnishing capacity if you are an ESO plus member, will anyone even use that much? A sweetroll probably takes 1 space up though so maybe lol. I don't know what SW:TOR is.

Perhaps if I could buy a years worth of eso plus in one go id be more tempted. £15 a month isn't attractive if i'm honest.

Khami

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I just don't think ESO plus is worth it. And I find it annoying that you get extra furnishing capacity if you are an ESO plus member, will anyone even use that much? A sweetroll probably takes 1 space up though so maybe lol. I don't know what SW:TOR is.

Perhaps if I could buy a years worth of eso plus in one go id be more tempted. £15 a month isn't attractive if i'm honest.

Star Wars: The Old Republic. It's been out for five years.

Like ESO, SW:TOR started with a sub then went to no sub required, but unlike what BioWare did, ZOS didn't put any gates in place to force you to sub to get everything that was rewarded from completing a quest.

The crafting bag is worth the $15 plus the $15 in crowns per month.

Like I said, you owe ZOS an apology. Not only are they giving you $15 in crowns every month, they actually give you more than those who don't sub. BioWare took gear away from people who don't sub. You actually have to get permission from cartel market to be allowed to use purple rated gear unless you sub. You have to buy weekly passes to PvP more than a few times per week or do dungeons/raids.

Are you gated to how much you can PvP or raid in ESO without a sub?

Narvuntien

I don't agree with the subscription model.
So I don't subscribe.

People how do subscribe however deserve bonuses as long as it doesn't impact game play. The only way it does is that they have access to dungeon gear I can't get. But its not like they are super OP or anything.

Thier subscription means the game makers can be sure that they will be able to keep the servers running and not be subject to unknown amounts of DLC being purchased.

Chrysa1is

I'm not an ESO plus member. I can buy 3000 crowns here in the UK at GAME for £13, so no £15 a month for a bottomless craft and 1500 crowns is definitely not worth it. I can buy 5500 crowns here in the UK for £23

SFDB

While you can't sub for a year, you can sub for a half year.

Voxicity

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I just don't think ESO plus is worth it. And I find it annoying that you get extra furnishing capacity if you are an ESO plus member, will anyone even use that much? A sweetroll probably takes 1 space up though so maybe lol. I don't know what SW:TOR is.

Perhaps if I could buy a years worth of eso plus in one go id be more tempted. £15 a month isn't attractive if i'm honest.

I used to play a game that required you to drop around $500-$1000 on gear per month, or you'd get 1 shot in PvP. Not even exaggerating. MMO publishers can be pretty disgusting with their Pay2Win models, ZOS is pretty much faultless in this regard.

And I'm not even sticking up for them because I'm a fanboy either. Some of the stuff they do isn't great, but their payment models are literally miles better than others I have experienced.

(just to clarify, I never spent that much on it, I'm not insane )

c0rp

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Never known a company to reap and milk the cash out of our pockets as much as ZO$. And what a way for them to try and force you into buying ESO plus by making it so that you can't furnish your house with as much as an ESO plus member. If you were a max level character before Homestead, the only decent thing about ESO plus was the craft bag, and it is almost like they realised how pointless it was to be an ESO plus member with a max level character because you can't really benefit from what it offered.

I think the capacity for the total amount of player in a large house is stupid and not what I was expecting. 12 players in a large house? I honestly thought this whole time it was 25? Unless that privilege goes to the ESO plus members which again makes me feel annoyed, almost like I'm not good enough, and full access sits behind a pay wall. Not fair, I would never pay for ESO plus unless it offered truly unique access to the game, because giving me 300 capacity for furnishings and an ESO plus member 600 capacity isn't and shouldn't be what being an ESO plus member is all about. Unless I genuinely struggle and need more capacity to decorate my home, then I will understand the benefit of ESO plus this time, but again, 300 is alot and i'm not going to fill my house with stupid food decorations etc.



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I can think of a dozen f2p games you should go play and then report back with your findings lol.

Chrysa1is

Whoa that's alot of money bro. Never realised other games were that bad.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

"Never known a company to reap and milk the cash out of our pockets as much as ZO$."
The OP has never played any game from EA or Ubersoft I see.

Callous2208

Narvuntien wrote: »

I don't agree with the subscription model.
So I don't subscribe.

People how do subscribe however deserve bonuses as long as it doesn't impact game play. The only way it does is that they have access to dungeon gear I can't get. But its not like they are super OP or anything.

Thier subscription means the game makers can be sure that they will be able to keep the servers running and not be subject to unknown amounts of DLC being purchased.

Just for clarification, people who sub don't exclusively have access to gear you can't get. People who own the dlc's do. Subs get the dlc's as long as they remain subscribed, but anyone can make a one-time purchase of those that lasts indefinitely.

Chrysa1is

Title edited for excessive bashing. I think I upset someone. lol. The endless dollar signs were there for a reason.

cjthibs

Callous2208 wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

I don't agree with the subscription model.
So I don't subscribe.

People how do subscribe however deserve bonuses as long as it doesn't impact game play. The only way it does is that they have access to dungeon gear I can't get. But its not like they are super OP or anything.

Thier subscription means the game makers can be sure that they will be able to keep the servers running and not be subject to unknown amounts of DLC being purchased.

Just for clarification, people who sub don't exclusively have access to gear you can't get. People who own the dlc's do. Subs get the dlc's as long as they remain subscribed, but anyone can make a one-time purchase of those that lasts indefinitely.

And if I'm not mistaken any of the Bind-On-Equip gear is still attainable through traders. It's only Bind-On-Pickup gear, which would only be the gear from Dungeons.

mikeabboudb14_ESO

i am just trying to set up my little free homes The way they set up the furniture will ensure a long term market for the players and keep us playing as we work to acquire and please don't call it a grind what you will call a grind is how you play an mmo. its a normal function of the game.

I play starwars and there is no way you can play that game free to play its an absolute lie. Whereas ZOS has created a buy to play model that is actually totally free once you buy the upgrades. its an excellent model and their store is filled will a good selection of appearance items and leveling items. A lot of the stuff you can buy can also be had with in game gold. They have a near perfect crafting system that allows you to create items you can actually use as you level. They have found a way to contain inflation by keeping the auction houses apart from each other. This is an excellent game. I am also really getting into their stealth/assassin game.

idk

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Title edited for excessive bashing. I think I upset someone. lol. The endless dollar signs were there for a reason.

Yes. You were atempting to bring extra attention to your rage thread.

Unsent.Soul

Khami wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I just don't think ESO plus is worth it. And I find it annoying that you get extra furnishing capacity if you are an ESO plus member, will anyone even use that much? A sweetroll probably takes 1 space up though so maybe lol. I don't know what SW:TOR is.

Perhaps if I could buy a years worth of eso plus in one go id be more tempted. £15 a month isn't attractive if i'm honest.

Star Wars: The Old Republic. It's been out for five years.

Like ESO, SW:TOR started with a sub then went to no sub required, but unlike what BioWare did, ZOS didn't put any gates in place to force you to sub to get everything that was rewarded from completing a quest.

The crafting bag is worth the $15 plus the $15 in crowns per month.

Like I said, you owe ZOS an apology. Not only are they giving you $15 in crowns every month, they actually give you more than those who don't sub. BioWare took gear away from people who don't sub. You actually have to get permission from cartel market to be allowed to use purple rated gear unless you sub. You have to buy weekly passes to PvP more than a few times per week or do dungeons/raids.

Are you gated to how much you can PvP or raid in ESO without a sub?

An apology? Jesus Christ put down the sauce...

Chrysa1is

Wouldn't call that rage tbh but hey, interpret it how you will boys.

lillybit

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I'm not an ESO plus member. I can buy 3000 crowns here in the UK at GAME for £13, so no £15 a month for a bottomless craft and 1500 crowns is definitely not worth it. I can buy 5500 crowns here in the UK for £23

Don't know where you got £15 from, it's only £9.99 on PS4 so other platforms aren't going good to be too different. There's a six month deal too which makes it even less (works out around a pound less a month I think).

I believe the 1500 crown pack is £8.99 so you're really paying £1 a month for all the extras, or all free with the six month plan. For myself, it's worth it. I'm probably going to buy the crowns anyway and £1pcm is a small price to pay for the crafting bag!

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Turelus

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Never known a company to reap and milk the cash out of our pockets as much as ZO$.

Got to here and thought "you've never played SWTOR or many other F2P games..."

Checked the replies and saw the same.

Made this post any way.

Fodore

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I just don't think ESO plus is worth it. And I find it annoying that you get extra furnishing capacity if you are an ESO plus member, will anyone even use that much? A sweetroll probably takes 1 space up though so maybe lol. I don't know what SW:TOR is.

Perhaps if I could buy a years worth of eso plus in one go id be more tempted. £15 a month isn't attractive if i'm honest.

You can buy a years worth of Eso plus.
And also why does this concern you if you don't have it and it seems like your worry is that no one will use that amount of storage.

I feel like you are just complaining for the sake of it

Attackopsn

Download Trove and open their cash shop. I saw someone spend $21,000 before the game had even been out a month on console.

DPShiro

People who type company names with "$" instead of regular "S" are so unique and clever!

It also makes their inputs and opinions invalid and not worth reading and/or taken seriously.