Original ESO tutorial/Morrowind tutorial - can a new character do both?

runagate

For instance, could a character leave the Wailing Prison and simply go straight to the Morrowind one?

If not and a character is introduced to Morrowind through the tutorial, how would that character retroactively go back to the story line that pertains to the dark anchors?

If a character starts in Morrowind's storyline are they still soul shriven? Can they later become soul shriven and then fight to regain their soul?

Brittany_Joy

What are you talking about?

MAEK

I think they said that you can almost do the Morrowind tutorial with an old character, but that it won't be exactely the same.

Enodoc

Brittany_Joy wrote: »

What are you talking about?

@Brittany_Joy Morrowind comes with a new tutorial. The question is asking how the new tutorial works for existing characters, who have already played the Wailing Prison tutorial, and how new characters get inroduced to the Harborage/Molag Bal storyline of the base game if they've been through the Morrowind tutorial.

Turelus

MAEK wrote: »

I think they said that you can almost do the Morrowind tutorial with an old character, but that it won't be exactely the same.

This is what was said on the stream. It sounds like the new tutorial will partially take place in open world (Seyda Neen) but some of it will be instanced for brand new characters.

runagate

It still seems really odd to me to make a character who starts in Morrowind retroactively soul shriven. I suppose they may start out soul shriven anyway.

Turelus

runagate wrote: »

It still seems really odd to me to make a character who starts in Morrowind retroactively soul shriven. I suppose they may start out soul shriven anyway.

I'm interested to see how they deal with this story wise, whilst they have a little wonky canon/story at times their lore team do seem to try their best to keep everything consistent.

Enodoc

Turelus wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

It still seems really odd to me to make a character who starts in Morrowind retroactively soul shriven. I suppose they may start out soul shriven anyway.

I'm interested to see how they deal with this story wise, whilst they have a little wonky canon/story at times their lore team do seem to try their best to keep everything consistent.

Indeed. It'll be very interesting to see how the two stories work together. And I hope they don't screw it up. Not being able to do Soul Shriven in Coldharbour, for example, means you'd never lose your soul, never become the Vestige, never get introduced to the Prophet (so he'd still be stuck in Coldharbour), and never meet Lyris. Being thrown into the first Harborage quest without that would make no sense at all.

JKorr

Want to bet there will be rants if someone starts a new character in Morrowind, then after the main events of that play out, Mannimarco's minions cutscene kidnap the character and haul them off to the sacrificial death and Coldharbour?

IwakuraLain42

Turelus wrote: »

MAEK wrote: »

I think they said that you can almost do the Morrowind tutorial with an old character, but that it won't be exactely the same.

This is what was said on the stream. It sounds like the new tutorial will partially take place in open world (Seyda Neen) but some of it will be instanced for brand new characters.

Not really, they were very unconformable answering that question on ESO live. If I understand the answer correctly then yes, you can visit the tutorial area but no, you won't be able to run the new tutorials on old chars.
This is a shame, because quite a few players could use the new tutorials ....

Anhedonie

"Hey, Vivec, your boyfriend said hi."

KerinKor

runagate wrote: »

Original ESO tutorial/Morrowind tutorial

No one has been able to do the original tutorial unless they were in the beta test, as the original tutorial was butchered right at the last moment and the full version has never been seen live.

Enodoc

KerinKor wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

Original ESO tutorial/Morrowind tutorial

No one has been able to do the original tutorial unless they were in the beta test, as the original tutorial was butchered right at the last moment and the full version has never been seen live.

If pedantry is required, we could also say that even that wasn't the original tutorial. Or that the current live tutorial isn't the same as the tutorial we originally had at launch.

Hallothiel

@Enodoc

So what was/is the difference?

starlizard70ub17_ESO

JKorr wrote: »

Want to bet there will be rants if someone starts a new character in Morrowind, then after the main events of that play out, Mannimarco's minions cutscene kidnap the character and haul them off to the sacrificial death and Coldharbour?

That would be funny as hell, can't wait to see it on uTube, lol.

Enodoc

Hallothiel wrote: »

@Enodoc
So what was/is the difference?

Between launch and now? At launch, the Prophet appeared immediately as a projection when you were in your cell and gave you the rundown of what's going on. Then Er-Jaseen broke you out of your cell, and you followed him through the Armory to the first door. In the Armory, you could pick up a one-handed sword. Er-Jaseen left you at the door and you fought through the next area, containing a skeletal warrior and archer, alone. You met Lyris right before the door leading to the outside. (In the last few betas, this door led to an extra area called the Ashen Mines, which you had to fight through before reaching the outside area.)

On Live now, Lyris breaks you out of your cell, you are forced into picking up a two-handed sword, you first meet the Prophet at the first door, and in the next area you fight against the Forgemaster and a bunch of other enemies, each one introducing a different aspect of combat. Then you end up in the outside area.

The outside area with the sentinels and Cadwell is pretty much unchanged.

At launch, the door to the Undercroft was not locked. Now, it serves as an introduction to Lockpicking. Since launch, the Undercroft has been pretty much linear. In the beta, it was larger and had more side passages to explore.

The Prophet's Cell at launch had a completely different visual design, and there were no enemies to fight. To get him out, you had to go to both sides of the cell and deactivate the pinions. This was replaced with the current version where you have to kill enemies to activate the pinions, and the pinions are right beside you.

The Anchor Mooring is pretty much unchanged, but you originally had to activate pinions there too after defeating the boss. I think that was just in beta.

MissBizz

I'm wondering if they current tutorial would turn into the very first quest of the main story line then? I was wondering this too...

runagate

OK, that's weird then, @Enodoc - the only distinct memories I have of the tutorial are from the closed beta, then. Guess it's been a while since I did it.

zaria

JKorr wrote: »

Want to bet there will be rants if someone starts a new character in Morrowind, then after the main events of that play out, Mannimarco's minions cutscene kidnap the character and haul them off to the sacrificial death and Coldharbour?

Now that is that I call an bad day

TheShadowScout

Enodoc wrote: »

Indeed. It'll be very interesting to see how the two stories work together. And I hope they don't screw it up...

Agreed.
I defintely will be looking at it from both sides, and hope as well it will mesh nicely, and not end up giving me immersion-break-indisgestion...

Of coruse, we shall see how it goes. Definitely a point where one has to reserve judgement until one sees what the score is, yes?

ThePaleItalian

Kill us at the end of the Morrowind tutorial?

Xvorg

JKorr wrote: »

Want to bet there will be rants if someone starts a new character in Morrowind, then after the main events of that play out, Mannimarco's minions cutscene kidnap the character and haul them off to the sacrificial death and Coldharbour?

And that guy was a failed Nerevarine...