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Hope for a Necromancer class!

MythicEmperor
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So, as some as you know, the warden class details were just revealed and confirmed.

https://i.reddituploads.com/ef8cdda8614c47e192d9b8774d2b3498?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d66b0900aeff0d536d4d4da4b21b1e6e
Hey guys, we can confirm that the information here is real. It's a scan from OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) that was just released last week. :)

Many, including me, are disappointed with the warden. We were hoping for an ice DPS skill tree, and we were left with nothing but tanking. Then I realized, however, that it is in fact a good thing.

Hear me out: A Necromancer class, focusing on death, would more than likely include an ice tree. When the warden was announced, I feared that there would be no room for a frost dps tree in the Necromancer class.

Now, however, we can rest assured that this class is still possible as the warden lacks frost DPS capabilities.

With cold regards,
Mythic

Favorite Characters:
Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • Sausage
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    Necromancer was no-brainer, it has been asked since pre-PC launch, in fact. I always thought Necromancer would be more suitable as addition to Werewolf and Vampire.
    Edited by Sausage on February 13, 2017 6:02PM
  • ADarklore
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    So, as some as you know, the warden class details were just revealed and confirmed.

    https://i.reddituploads.com/ef8cdda8614c47e192d9b8774d2b3498?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d66b0900aeff0d536d4d4da4b21b1e6e
    Hey guys, we can confirm that the information here is real. It's a scan from OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) that was just released last week. :)

    Many, including me, are disappointed with the warden. We were hoping for an ice DPS skill tree, and we were left with nothing but tanking. Then I realized, however, that it is in fact a good thing.

    Hear me out: A Necromancer class, focusing on death, would more than likely include an ice tree. When the warden was announced, I feared that there would be no room for a frost dps tree in the Necromancer class.

    Now, however, we can rest assured that this class is still possible as the warden lacks frost DPS capabilities.

    I doubt it. They would not add two classes both with an ice theme, it just wouldn't make any sense considering how they love to make classes 'unique' and having two that had ice/frost, even if different skills, would still be too similar; I would imagine that Necromancer will not have any type of elemental magic.
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  • idk
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    May have assumption is made. We have only seen a possibly leaked base set of skills. I don't think morphs were included which could include dps morphs.

    However, with the frost staff hesvy attack being a taunt any dps ice build has a small issue that the cannot hesvy attack to get resources back if needed. Ofc it chould not he needed in raids but if.
  • theher0not
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    I doubt we will ever get a frost DPS class since ZoS reworked frost to be magica tanking.
    Edited by theher0not on February 13, 2017 6:09PM
  • drakhan2002_ESO
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    Unlikely it will be any kind of elemental spec's...Necromancers are "death magic" based classes. Perhaps they will create a new magicka skill line for the Necro.
  • Abeille
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    I would prefer Necromancy to be a world skill line than an actual class with three separated skill lines.

    Same for Bard, which I would prefer over Necromancy too.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • MythicEmperor
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    So, as some as you know, the warden class details were just revealed and confirmed.

    https://i.reddituploads.com/ef8cdda8614c47e192d9b8774d2b3498?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d66b0900aeff0d536d4d4da4b21b1e6e
    Hey guys, we can confirm that the information here is real. It's a scan from OXM (Official Xbox Magazine) that was just released last week. :)

    Many, including me, are disappointed with the warden. We were hoping for an ice DPS skill tree, and we were left with nothing but tanking. Then I realized, however, that it is in fact a good thing.

    Hear me out: A Necromancer class, focusing on death, would more than likely include an ice tree. When the warden was announced, I feared that there would be no room for a frost dps tree in the Necromancer class.

    Now, however, we can rest assured that this class is still possible as the warden lacks frost DPS capabilities.

    I doubt it. They would not add two classes both with an ice theme, it just wouldn't make any sense considering how they love to make classes 'unique' and having two that had ice/frost, even if different skills, would still be too similar; I would imagine that Necromancer will not have any type of elemental magic.

    A Dunmer can dream, can't he? :lol:
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • MythicEmperor
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    Unlikely it will be any kind of elemental spec's...Necromancers are "death magic" based classes. Perhaps they will create a new magicka skill line for the Necro.

    Maybe, but the general consensus (before warden, mind you) is that there would be an ice tree, a disease tree, and an undead pet tree. Unless they made it as a world skill tree, idk how else they would fill that skill tree gap. Maybe poison?
    Edited by MythicEmperor on February 13, 2017 6:49PM
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • MythicEmperor
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    Abeille wrote: »
    I would prefer Necromancy to be a world skill line than an actual class with three separated skill lines.

    Same for Bard, which I would prefer over Necromancy too.

    Yeah, unless they add class changing
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Love the idea of a Necromancer class, but I don't see the connection with frost.
  • Sausage
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    Abeille wrote: »
    I would prefer Necromancy to be a world skill line than an actual class with three separated skill lines.

    Same for Bard, which I would prefer over Necromancy too.

    I would like to see Bard one day too, I would add it via Mage or Warrior guild type of thing.
  • Qbiken
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    Just no....
  • MythicEmperor
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    Love the idea of a Necromancer class, but I don't see the connection with frost.

    Ah, well the association between Necromancers and frost likely stems from the fact that corpses are cold. In past TES games, necromancer enemies commonly used frost spells, and the same is true in many fictitious settings.
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • MythicEmperor
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Just no....

    Just yes :smile:
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • Draconerus
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    More than likely and HOPEFULLY it would be a world skill tree or part of spell-crafting.
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  • MythicEmperor
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    Draconerus wrote: »
    More than likely and HOPEFULLY it would be a world skill tree or part of spell-crafting.

    I would be happy either way, as long as it is added, but I can definitely see the appeal of it being a world tree. I would hate to reroll my main (which I have rerolled from max lvl 4 times now, as I could never get the right feel. This char was almost always played as a necromancer in past TES games.) I would most certainly reroll if/when a necromancer class came, but until then I will be playing my magsorc until my magblade is buffed, or until the sorc flavor grows on me (both are the 'same' character :tongue:)
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Necromancer is always my favorite playstyle.
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  • MythicEmperor
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    Elder Scrolls Online: Thras B) ... think about it

    That would actually make sense. The Sloads were known to be Necromancers. The only problem I see is that any Tamrielic race would probably be killed on sight :tongue:
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • WikileaksEU
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    Love the idea of a Necromancer class, but I don't see the connection with frost.

    Death is connected to ice in many ways. Ice is the purest form of death. Just look at Dante's Inferno and the last sin (circle) where Satan resides. His domain is made of ice and is the most deadly and painful place in hell. Death is connected to ice in many historic tales, books and cultures.
  • JD2013
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    I'd rather they bring Spellcrafting next instead of another class.
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  • Abeille
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    Sausage wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
    I would prefer Necromancy to be a world skill line than an actual class with three separated skill lines.

    Same for Bard, which I would prefer over Necromancy too.

    I would like to see Bard one day too, I would add it via Mage or Warrior guild type of thing.

    Yeah, Bard's College!

    Even better if they add functional instruments with it.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • ThePaleItalian
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    Redguards hate necromancy, so do you remove them as being a playable race?

    But lets see how this Warden unfolds first. Give me spell crafting and jewel crafting first.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    In many crpg / mmos necromancers relay highly on summons (mostly undead).
    You can solo most content of the game (yes even some vet dungeons) by simply being a sorcerer and have a pet that will tank for you. Also soon we will have another class that will also relay highly on pets (Warden).
    I don't think there will be another, third class that will also relay on summons & pets...
    But hey everything is possible.

    btw.
    But lets see how this Warden unfolds first. Give me spell crafting and jewel crafting first.

    This ^ xD

    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on February 13, 2017 9:56PM
  • cabbageub17_ESO
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    ADarklore wrote: »

    I doubt it. They would not add two classes both with an ice theme, it just wouldn't make any sense considering how they love to make classes 'unique' and having two that had ice/frost, even if different skills, would still be too similar; I would imagine that Necromancer will not have any type of elemental magic.

    Plus wouldn't both be pet centric too? There's no way they make a Necromancer without some zombie pets

  • Sigtric
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    I'd much rather see necromancy as a skill line available to all classes

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  • Kessra
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    I think the next class introduced after the warden will be the battlemage. A year ago, data miners already figured out that the code included placeholers for both warden and battlemages and the former one now is official: https://gitter.im/esoui/esoui/archives/2016/01/27

    If this class will be able to necromance minions is something tbd ...
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