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Give us the Official Warden Skill Lines. Right Meow.
austinwalter87ub17_ESO
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I NEED A FEW MONTHS OF THEORYCRAFTING!
Edited by austinwalter87ub17_ESO on February 10, 2017 7:28PM
PC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
Templar Extraordinaire
Templar Extraordinaire
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would you like a liter of cola with that?"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU1 -
Oompuh✭✭✭✭✭Just theorycraft with your imagination like everyone on the forums saying its gonna be overpowered and somehow have horrible pets at the same timeXbox NA - Oompa
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austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Just theorycraft with your imagination like everyone on the forums saying its gonna be overpowered and somehow have horrible pets at the same time
That's like the equivalent of telling me to fantasize about a woman i've never seen.
It just leaves me alone, in a dark place, with a giant question mark above my head.PC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We already have pretty much the entire skill lines from articles on gaming websites. Sure no official tooltips but pretty rough the function of each skill (no morphs though).PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭General possibilities are hard to use in theorycrafting. The skill lines would not be complete now.0 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, you can't have that, and here is why.
We are currently in the "Hype" phase of the marketing cycle. Which means the LAST thing ZOS would ever do is give us any specific information.
Hype is short for "Hyperbole." You see, people creatures like marketers realize that your own imagination is much more powerful than any targeted marketing they could create. In your mind, the warden is going to be the most awesome class ever and Morrowind is going to be your childhood come back again. If they nail down too many specifics too early, then people will start talking about class imbalance, how the warden bear will be too OP or too hard to control, and How morrowind will lack basic features like new craft-able sets. That is the last thing these creatures want.
Just wait for ESO Live today.(2/10) you will see what I mean. Look out for these types of statements on today's show.- "A new chapter for ESO"
- "Like never before"
- "An exciting change"
- "For the first time in this game"
Don't expect any detailed information. All of the youtubers and streamers that went to ZOS signed an NDA for a reason. What do you think the REAL purpose of that NDA was? You KNOW that their fanbase is going to pelt them with questions when they get back. Here's a brief transcript of how that will go.
Rabid Fanboi: "Hey Streamer dude, did ZOS show you the new warden class?
Streamer Dude: **Smiles knowingly and winks**
Rabid Fanboi: **Excitement Intensifies** "Does that mean you did or didn't? Tell ussssssssssss"
Streamer Dude: **mysterious all too perfect smile** "You know I signed NDA, so I can't tell you any specifics but I can tell you this. Whatever I did see, it's going to be AWESOME!!!
Rabid Fanboi: OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. **Head Explodes**
Streamer Dude: "Don't forget to check streamerdude at streamerdudesgaming dot com for the latest info that I cant release!"
We will get this info eventually and find out how either overpowered, or completely underwhelming the warden will be. But for now, just imagine the warden as a cross between Sub-Zero, Captain Planet, and aqua-man.
Its going to be an exciting new chapter for the first time in this game like never before and it will be off the chain-hook!!!
Edit: Almost called marketers "people" had to correct that. Tagging @willlienellson to correct any mistakes I made when describing the marketing process because he knows even less about marketing than I do.
Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on February 10, 2017 8:07PM26 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As they already stated during ESO Live the streamers invited to ZOS were testing the Warden class so their skills aren't set yet. Will take most likely another 1-2 months until we see some kind of beta version for Warden skills.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
willlienellson✭✭✭✭✭@Yolokin_Swagonborn
I wish you wouldn't judge all marketing by how ZOS sells ESO
I mean, unless you also look at a crack dealer on the corner selling a vial to a dope fiend as "marketing".
Edited by willlienellson on February 10, 2017 8:42PM1 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »As they already stated during ESO Live the streamers invited to ZOS were testing the Warden class so their skills aren't set yet. Will take most likely another 1-2 months until we see some kind of beta version for Warden skills.
In order to test them, the skills had to be there. The tooltips may change in number or effect but the basic skills are there and could be theorycrafted on. Skills change years after the launch of a class. Look at what happened to blazing spear. They have enough to release, but they wont because of hype.1 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »As they already stated during ESO Live the streamers invited to ZOS were testing the Warden class so their skills aren't set yet. Will take most likely another 1-2 months until we see some kind of beta version for Warden skills.
In order to test them, the skills had to be there. The tooltips may change in number or effect but the basic skills are there and could be theorycrafted on. Skills change years after the launch of a class. Look at what happened to blazing spear. They have enough to release, but they wont because of hype.
As I said, we don't know if the skills will be kept as they are or remade with the help of the feedback gathered from the streamers. I mean why have streamers there when nothing's going to change? So it's pretty obvious that it doesn't make any sense giving us unfinished skill lines yet.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
salmoncat33✭✭I assume the streamers that got invited may have gotten to see them maybe time to spam?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Rabid Fanboi: OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. **Head Explodes**
Streamer Dude: "Don't forget to check streamerdude at streamerdudesgaming dot com for the latest info that I cant release!"
Me: "I have to go to your website? ... that sounds like an awful lot of work... @$!# it"1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So, four months before the class hits the live servers the devs respond kindly to requests and release their current detailed thinking on skills.
Then during the last few weeks pre-launch the update goes on the PTS and the devs respond to the beta testers' feedback and adjust a few of the skills.
The update goes live....
"WAARRGGHH!!!! ZOS LIED AGAIN! THEY BROKE MORE PROMISES!"
(Plus "It's a cash grab", "Are you worried about the game closing?" and other traditional nonsense)
I'd rather they just kept quiet until they're good and ready to release more details - there's a reason Natch Potes don't appear until the servers are about to come up
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ZiRM✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Give us the Official Warden Skill Lines. Right Meow."
Want to become Vampire? 5k @ZiRM in game.ESO Server Status. ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ ) SkåL!!!!!4 -
AshTal✭✭✭✭No idea how they will do it but it will be over powered the pet will kick the crap out of the sorc pets, and after it has been FOM for 6 months where it kicks the crap out of every other class and you must buy morrowind to compete it will be nerfed to hell and only end up being 10% more powerful than every other class
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No idea how they will do it but it will be over powered the pet will kick the crap out of the sorc pets, and after it has been FOM for 6 months where it kicks the crap out of every other class and you must buy morrowind to compete it will be nerfed to hell and only end up being 10% more powerful than every other class
Probably. They could also bring excitement back into the game by fixing the other classes but why do that when you can buff the hell out of warden.
If warden gets pets that actually works and sorc is stuck with potato pets im gonna scream.2 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »No idea how they will do it but it will be over powered the pet will kick the crap out of the sorc pets, and after it has been FOM for 6 months where it kicks the crap out of every other class and you must buy morrowind to compete it will be nerfed to hell and only end up being 10% more powerful than every other class
Probably. They could also bring excitement back into the game by fixing the other classes but why do that when you can buff the hell out of warden.
If warden gets pets that actually works and sorc is stuck with potato pets im gonna scream.
Pretty sure all classes will get a major rework with Morrowind.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No idea how they will do it but it will be over powered the pet will kick the crap out of the sorc pets, and after it has been FOM for 6 months where it kicks the crap out of every other class and you must buy morrowind to compete it will be nerfed to hell and only end up being 10% more powerful than every other class
I would hope the bear ends up being better than sorc pets, it's an ultimate after all.PS4 / NA
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Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No idea how they will do it but it will be over powered the pet will kick the crap out of the sorc pets, and after it has been FOM for 6 months where it kicks the crap out of every other class and you must buy morrowind to compete it will be nerfed to hell and only end up being 10% more powerful than every other class
I would hope the bear ends up being better than sorc pets, it's an ultimate after all.
Sorc atronarc ultimate is a pet too. Too bad it just stands there, looks at your enemy for like 3 seconds then casually attacks.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Just theorycraft with your imagination like everyone on the forums saying its gonna be overpowered and somehow have horrible pets at the same time
That's like the equivalent of telling me to fantasize about a woman i've never seen.
It just leaves me alone, in a dark place, with a giant question mark above my head.
You've never seen a woman before? Damn, I thought my childhood was isolated.0 -
austinwalter87ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »austinwalter87ub17_ESO wrote: »Just theorycraft with your imagination like everyone on the forums saying its gonna be overpowered and somehow have horrible pets at the same time
That's like the equivalent of telling me to fantasize about a woman i've never seen.
It just leaves me alone, in a dark place, with a giant question mark above my head.
You've never seen a woman before? Damn, I thought my childhood was isolated.
I live a more sheltered life than Wroebels forum activityPC and PS4 (bring back character transfers please?)
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✭Well there is this, https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5tpki7/warden_skills_in_eso_morrowind/
Rejoice
When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.1 -
Myyth✭✭✭✭✭Well there is this, https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/5tpki7/warden_skills_in_eso_morrowind/
Rejoice
where did that come from? did someone break the NDA and take a picture of something they shouldn't?
Edited by Myyth on February 13, 2017 1:37AM0
