[Video] Magicka DK Hype! - LeifyEric Outnumbered PvP

LeifErickson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgxrpw8XL_Y&lc=z12mgpm5pmuvtrekc22uin5ynn3si5qye04

NightbladeMechanics

OP.

Buffing magicka DK? Better nerf Leif!

Ghostbane

That fight from 2:10, whoa.

NightbladeMechanics

Ghostbane wrote: »

That fight from 2:10, whoa.

Leif's DK house is a vegetable stand. ^_^

K4RMA

sick clips man

Sylphie

Awesome video man. Noticed the BSW proc on one of the clips, how are you liking that set compared to other dps sets like sun, spinners, ect? I'm leaning towards sun myself to replace trainee next patch.

LeifErickson

Sylphie wrote: »

Awesome video man. Noticed the BSW proc on one of the clips, how are you liking that set compared to other dps sets like sun, spinners, ect? I'm leaning towards sun myself to replace trainee next patch.

I personally haven't tried sun and spinners, but I don't see how they would be better than BSW. Sun doesn't buff bats and I think I heard it doesn't benefit from things like major sorcery. Spinners might be okay, but I would think BSW would be better.

LeifErickson

Ghostbane wrote: »

That fight from 2:10, whoa.

My group member Moontan had just ressed and had no resources at the start of the fight. When he went down I knew that I was going to die too, but I wanted them to have to actually work hard to kill me. After I outheal tanked that destro ult, I figured anything was possible so I went tryhard. It worked.

Fatalyis

Very nice! That last clip though...haha!

Lord_Hev

Eyyy DK is back

Kilandros

Damn dude that was awesome

DisgracefulMind

Really excellent gameplay

Rainingblood

/salute

That was some great game play. I know how hard you have to work to play a mDK well. This shows how skilled of a player you are. I would love to pick your brain some time, especially on your healing.

One thing that seems odd in the big fight is that when I'm facing similar numbers, I usually have 3-4 Temps spamming RD, and even a couple Sorcs spamming mage's wrath so when my HP is low, I go POP. Where were the beams???

Also, be careful... If a dev sees this, they might think they need to nerf mDKs some more...

Fantastic work. Thanks for posting this!

-Phoebe Anderson

LeifErickson

Rainingblood wrote: »

/salute

That was some great game play. I know how hard you have to work to play a mDK well. This shows how skilled of a player you are. I would love to pick your brain some time, especially on your healing.

One thing that seems odd in the big fight is that when I'm facing similar numbers, I usually have 3-4 Temps spamming RD, and even a couple Sorcs spamming mage's wrath so when my HP is low, I go POP. Where were the beams???

Also, be careful... If a dev sees this, they might think they need to nerf mDKs some more...

Fantastic work. Thanks for posting this!

-Phoebe Anderson

It's actually a good thing when you get beam spammed. As a mdk, if I am not right on top of everyone, then I am going to die. Once you are right on top of everyone, you will destroy beam spammers because of inhale. Channels at range are the counters to mdk, but channels in melee are easy interrupts (but sadly they took that mechanic away with soul assault).

And the healing is not bad on mdk. I know everyone says it is, but you are playing it right, your healing is actually really good. The only time my healing is bad is when I line of sight around something and I am alone. As a mdk, you want to rotate burning embers on people and when you are fighting a lot at the same time, inhale is really strong. I block a lot so I end up not really having to heal that much just because I don't take that much damage, but in the second clip I was able to outheal that destro ult by sitting in it and inhaling everyone to get massive heals.

A super good healing trick I learned from Sypherpk from sypherpk.com is to burning embers someone, count to 6, then go into mist form. Once you are out of mist form you will get the heal right away.

Ishammael

Long live mDK!

CyrusArya

IDK man, I was told by forum DKs that magicka dk is terrible and basically unplayable AP fodder. But this video demonstrates that the class has excellent tools and can be very powerful in extreme 1vX situations if played right. Therefore it has tools to excel in any aspect of PvP. I don't know what to believe.

Now imagine how good magicka DK is gonna be with breath of life lite. This class is gonna be monstrous in the right hands next patch, maybe too good even. We'll see in a few weeks if we're getting a repeat of stam sorcs and the destro ult where something gets overbuffed due to zenimax caving to pressure from the community.

Rainingblood

LeifErickson wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

/salute

That was some great game play. I know how hard you have to work to play a mDK well. This shows how skilled of a player you are. I would love to pick your brain some time, especially on your healing.

One thing that seems odd in the big fight is that when I'm facing similar numbers, I usually have 3-4 Temps spamming RD, and even a couple Sorcs spamming mage's wrath so when my HP is low, I go POP. Where were the beams???

Also, be careful... If a dev sees this, they might think they need to nerf mDKs some more...

Fantastic work. Thanks for posting this!

-Phoebe Anderson

It's actually a good thing when you get beam spammed. As a mdk, if I am not right on top of everyone, then I am going to die. Once you are right on top of everyone, you will destroy beam spammers because of inhale. Channels at range are the counters to mdk, but channels in melee are easy interrupts (but sadly they took that mechanic away with soul assault).

And the healing is not bad on mdk. I know everyone says it is, but you are playing it right, your healing is actually really good. The only time my healing is bad is when I line of sight around something and I am alone. As a mdk, you want to rotate burning embers on people and when you are fighting a lot at the same time, inhale is really strong. I block a lot so I end up not really having to heal that much just because I don't take that much damage, but in the second clip I was able to outheal that destro ult by sitting in it and inhaling everyone to get massive heals.

A super good healing trick I learned from Sypherpk from sypherpk.com is to burning embers someone, count to 6, then go into mist form. Once you are out of mist form you will get the heal right away.

Awesome tips. Do you go heavy into block cost reduction?

iseko

That is nice. Kind of weird to not see even one fear/fossilize in there.

You were at almost 0% stam there a load of the time. No hard stuns... Still, eventhough they were bad players that *** is impressive!

LeifErickson

iseko wrote: »

That is nice. Kind of weird to not see even one fear/fossilize in there.

You were at almost 0% stam there a load of the time. No hard stuns... Still, eventhough they were bad players that *** is impressive!

If I had got feared in that second clip, there would have been no way I would have won the fight. Fossilize isn't that big of a deal because it breaks really fast, but if I get feared and I don't have the stam to break free, it's gg. But also, keep in mind that when in a fight without the presence of fear, you can recognize that and in turn, waste more stamina than you would usually be able to waste. I knew that there was no way I would get stunned while blocking in that second fight, so I didn't bother saving enough stamina to break fear.

LeifErickson

Rainingblood wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

/salute

That was some great game play. I know how hard you have to work to play a mDK well. This shows how skilled of a player you are. I would love to pick your brain some time, especially on your healing.

One thing that seems odd in the big fight is that when I'm facing similar numbers, I usually have 3-4 Temps spamming RD, and even a couple Sorcs spamming mage's wrath so when my HP is low, I go POP. Where were the beams???

Also, be careful... If a dev sees this, they might think they need to nerf mDKs some more...

Fantastic work. Thanks for posting this!

-Phoebe Anderson

It's actually a good thing when you get beam spammed. As a mdk, if I am not right on top of everyone, then I am going to die. Once you are right on top of everyone, you will destroy beam spammers because of inhale. Channels at range are the counters to mdk, but channels in melee are easy interrupts (but sadly they took that mechanic away with soul assault).

And the healing is not bad on mdk. I know everyone says it is, but you are playing it right, your healing is actually really good. The only time my healing is bad is when I line of sight around something and I am alone. As a mdk, you want to rotate burning embers on people and when you are fighting a lot at the same time, inhale is really strong. I block a lot so I end up not really having to heal that much just because I don't take that much damage, but in the second clip I was able to outheal that destro ult by sitting in it and inhaling everyone to get massive heals.

A super good healing trick I learned from Sypherpk from sypherpk.com is to burning embers someone, count to 6, then go into mist form. Once you are out of mist form you will get the heal right away.

Awesome tips. Do you go heavy into block cost reduction?

I believe I run two sturdy with 10% block cost reduction in cp.

FloppyTouch

CyrusArya wrote: »

IDK man, I was told by forum DKs that magicka dk is terrible and basically unplayable AP fodder. But this video demonstrates that the class has excellent tools and can be very powerful in extreme 1vX situations if played right. Therefore it has tools to excel in any aspect of PvP. I don't know what to believe.

Now imagine how good magicka DK is gonna be with breath of life lite. This class is gonna be monstrous in the right hands next patch, maybe too good even. We'll see in a few weeks if we're getting a repeat of stam sorcs and the destro ult where something gets overbuffed due to zenimax caving to pressure from the community.

Stop

Glory

LeifErickson wrote: »

Rainingblood wrote: »

/salute

That was some great game play. I know how hard you have to work to play a mDK well. This shows how skilled of a player you are. I would love to pick your brain some time, especially on your healing.

One thing that seems odd in the big fight is that when I'm facing similar numbers, I usually have 3-4 Temps spamming RD, and even a couple Sorcs spamming mage's wrath so when my HP is low, I go POP. Where were the beams???

Also, be careful... If a dev sees this, they might think they need to nerf mDKs some more...

Fantastic work. Thanks for posting this!

-Phoebe Anderson

It's actually a good thing when you get beam spammed. As a mdk, if I am not right on top of everyone, then I am going to die. Once you are right on top of everyone, you will destroy beam spammers because of inhale. Channels at range are the counters to mdk, but channels in melee are easy interrupts (but sadly they took that mechanic away with soul assault).

And the healing is not bad on mdk. I know everyone says it is, but you are playing it right, your healing is actually really good. The only time my healing is bad is when I line of sight around something and I am alone. As a mdk, you want to rotate burning embers on people and when you are fighting a lot at the same time, inhale is really strong. I block a lot so I end up not really having to heal that much just because I don't take that much damage, but in the second clip I was able to outheal that destro ult by sitting in it and inhaling everyone to get massive heals.

A super good healing trick I learned from Sypherpk from sypherpk.com is to burning embers someone, count to 6, then go into mist form. Once you are out of mist form you will get the heal right away.

Ooooh Sypherpk from sypherpk.com?

caeliusstarbreaker

Honestly, it seems the deeper you get into fights, unless disciplined and a lot like real life... Opponents seem to get tired and less likely to take advantage of crucial situations while they just tirelessly continue to attempt to slug you to death.

Lexxypwns

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Honestly, it seems the deeper you get into fights, unless disciplined and a lot like real life... Opponents seem to get tired and less likely to take advantage of crucial situations while they just tirelessly continue to attempt to slug you to death.

I think the presence of so many cancer tanks in the game right now has lulled people to sleep. You see someone tanking a bunch of damage and just assume its some stupid build designed just to stay alive. MDK is going to catch tons of people by surprise next patch.

LeifErickson

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

Honestly, it seems the deeper you get into fights, unless disciplined and a lot like real life... Opponents seem to get tired and less likely to take advantage of crucial situations while they just tirelessly continue to attempt to slug you to death.

I literally find it easier to 1vx some people in this game than to 1v1 them.

Rainingblood

CyrusArya wrote: »

IDK man, I was told by forum DKs that magicka dk is terrible and basically unplayable AP fodder. But this video demonstrates that the class has excellent tools and can be very powerful in extreme 1vX situations if played right. Therefore it has tools to excel in any aspect of PvP. I don't know what to believe.

Now imagine how good magicka DK is gonna be with breath of life lite. This class is gonna be monstrous in the right hands next patch, maybe too good even. We'll see in a few weeks if we're getting a repeat of stam sorcs and the destro ult where something gets overbuffed due to zenimax caving to pressure from the community.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. You may notice though, that a lot of players lean toward class builds that are easier/less skill to play. MDK is challenging and can be difficult, especially compared to the way they used to be, but it can also be very fun if you like the challenge. Players like Leif are a great example of what this class can do with a skilled player at the wheel.

olsborg

Im all for magicka dk buffs, but only if they cut off one of leifs hands first...if you get my meaning ^^

caeliusstarbreaker

I mean it's more than just cancer tank builds... Happens to me and I'm not even close to what you can consider a tank. In prolonged fights everyone attaching either assumes someone else will cc or so tunnel visioned into just pumping damage that cc winds up being an after thought.

Minalan

Leif is OP. Plz Nerf!

This video is amazing, you better hope the devs don't see it.

Waylander

Great fights Leif! When it comes to resource management, mDK always feels to me 'how it should be' - it's challenging and rewards clever play and understanding of mechanics.

For a lot of players, getting in a fight gives them a rush of blood, they don't think so clearly and they use abilities more often than not (spam rally or vigor if pressured, don't cc or use dots, just spam their main spammable, forget to keep buffs up, forget to keep hots up).

That is ok when the resource pool is full, but when it gets low, you don't really know what to do because you aren't used to it (CP has made resource management pretty easy). Add in an increased heart rate, and your decision making may become poor. Your concentration lapses the longer the fight goes on and the more pressure applied and before you know it you are in someones 1 v x video.

LeifErickson

olsborg wrote: »

Im all for magicka dk buffs, but only if they cut off one of leifs hands first...if you get my meaning ^^

Lol please no!