Low level getting kicked from dungeons.

PsYcHoGBR

I'm on a level 15 sorc dps with up to level gear and I get people saying in dungeons i'm too low level and then I get kicked ?? I thought with this new system that it balances this ?

LadyNalcarya

It does, but people seem to be too insecure/whatever, even though normal dungeons can be soloed.
Though its funny to get kicked for "low level" if you have 900+ cp and level appropriate gear. XD

akl77

Which dungeon was it?

Cadbury

Unfortunately, it's a common occurence. Even trying to run a normal dungeon, you'll get kicked for not being 160+ CP. Hell, once I saw someone recruiting for Fungal Grotto 1 asking for 350+ CP only.

akl77

Cadbury wrote: »

Unfortunately, it's a common occurence. Even trying to run a normal dungeon, you'll get kicked for not being 160+ CP. Hell, once I saw someone recruiting for Fungal Grotto 1 asking for 350+ CP only.

Fungal 1 can be soloed easily.

MakoFore

yeah its bs. sorry to hear it man- as long as its a normal dungeon just try and find people in zone chat or guild. honestly- the first 6 months of the game i was just questing by myself, i was too intimidated to dungeon or anything cos noone showed me how- and the early experience i had was traumatic, every one else giving me a hard time etc.

it s unfortunate because these experienced players dont realise that the better experience they give new players, the more new players will join, the better the game service will be. its like a supporting any business- one that actually we re a part of.
i hope when u become a vet- that u ll pass on a good experience to new players one day.

Cadbury

akl77 wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

Unfortunately, it's a common occurence. Even trying to run a normal dungeon, you'll get kicked for not being 160+ CP. Hell, once I saw someone recruiting for Fungal Grotto 1 asking for 350+ CP only.

Fungal 1 can be soloed easily.

Indeed, but tell that to the guy who needed a team of 350 CP players

Maybe he wanted to farm something from FG1 - shrug -

alephthiago

OP didnt say if it was a normal or vet dungeon...

LadyNalcarya

@alephthiago wrote: »

OP didnt say if it was a normal or vet dungeon...

He said its a lvl 15 char.
You can only enter vet dungeons at 50+

efster

If someone kicks you from a normal group finder group for being too low level it just means they aren't experienced players themselves. Normal dungeons are stupidly easy if you know what you are doing, so having other people in group, regardless of skill level, only makes the run faster. Even if the low levels all die, a single experienced player can just finish almost any encounter solo and then everyone can rez up. You being kicked says more about the person kicking than it does about you, so don't feel bad. Good luck!

Stannum

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3698991/#Comment_3698991

code65536

efster wrote: »

If someone kicks you from a normal group finder group for being too low level it just means they aren't experienced players themselves. Normal dungeons are stupidly easy if you know what you are doing, so having other people in group, regardless of skill level, only makes the run faster. Even if the low levels all die, a single experienced player can just finish the encounter solo and then everyone can rez up.

Yea, in my experience, people who initiate a kick on someone in a normal dungeon for being too low are players who aren't that good themselves and thus aren't able to carry an inexperienced lowbie through.

The problem, though, is that most people who queue fall into that category. There are groups that would struggle even on normal mode, esp. if they got a DLC dungeon.

Tan9oSuccka

People need to stop kicking for normal. Easy mode.

One exception may be normal WGT. Lowbies really struggle with this in my experience.

Stannum

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

People need to stop kicking for normal. Easy mode.

One exception may be normal WGT. Lowbies really struggle with this in my experience.

Really in WGT is the only point - inhibitor with it's mechanics when it's explained well to all group it's not a problem.

Few days ago I've run nWGT with random lvl20-40 group with only one wipe (on inhibitor), but i've to explain mechanics twice ))

Bobby_V_Rockit

As a dps you should be fine, I wont run with a healer though that is that low, just because abilities arent unlocked yet to do it effectively. That said I solo most normal modes anyway so never kick anyone lol

yukikenzo

There's is always some guy who think they don't deserve to play with "low level folks." Just a few weeks ago I did CoH I with a pug group as a healer. CP 561 dude tried to kick the CP 233 for no reason at the beginning of the dungeon. I asked him why and he did not reply. Also he joined as a "Tank" while he was clearly doing DPS with his Magicka Sorc. He died pretty often on the last boss. Always blaming me for not healing him either because he was unable to block the bosses heavy attack or standing in the AoE. I told him I cannot heal stupidity as he used the spit emotion on me all the time.

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GreenhaloX

Ha ha.. sorry, I know it's not so humorous for those being kicked out, but it is humorous that being kicked out will always occur and complaints on such will always happen, and nothing will change. Just like people/players not taking everything from within a chest or nodes.. there will always be those doing that, and there will always be others complaining of such, but they will keep on leaving "trash" items.

Agalloch

PsYcHoGBR wrote: »

I'm on a level 15 sorc dps with up to level gear and I get people saying in dungeons i'm too low level and then I get kicked ?? I thought with this new system that it balances this ?

Man, even 1 Tamriel balanced many things, try to acquire(craft) good gear , make a good rotation and then you could do Normal dungeons. This is a MMO ..so you must grow., but normal dungeons are easy ( the 1 variant of them)

Good luck!

Paneross

They need a group finder for 561's+ then use the regular for everyone else.

PsYcHoGBR

I'm playing the PC version of ESO. I have 257 CP's. My gear was to my level as I crafted any gear that wasn't. I got kicked at the start of the dungeon before we even started. I have four level 50 toons that I maxed out all the crafting on. Been playing on and off since beta.

drakhan2002_ESO

PsYcHoGBR wrote: »

I'm playing the PC version of ESO. I have 257 CP's. My gear was to my level as I crafted any gear that wasn't. I got kicked at the start of the dungeon before we even started. I have four level 50 toons that I maxed out all the crafting on. Been playing on and off since beta.

When I see people say they have less than 300 CP, I hate to say it, but I look at that as "low". Granted you may have a bunch of experience by having several level 50s, but 300 CP seems to be the benchmark where your CP abilities really kick in.

I am not taking a stand that kicking you was right or wrong, I'm just saying that perhaps if you get a few more CP, you might find you're much more effective.

kylewwefan

On normal dungeons it's usually uncalled for, though there are exceptions. Some players are absolutely that bad merit a kick. Looking at you caltrops, light attack bow spammer

rotaugen454

I'll do normal level with absolutely anyone. I've soloed most of them, and if someone just needs to learn the mechanics, I'll explain it and we drive on. Having anyone at all along will just make it that much easier than soloing, and if I can't run with low levels on normal, it's ME doing something wrong.

MEBengalsFan2001

MakoFore wrote: »

yeah its bs. sorry to hear it man- as long as its a normal dungeon just try and find people in zone chat or guild. honestly- the first 6 months of the game i was just questing by myself, i was too intimidated to dungeon or anything cos noone showed me how- and the early experience i had was traumatic, every one else giving me a hard time etc.

it s unfortunate because these experienced players dont realise that the better experience they give new players, the more new players will join, the better the game service will be. its like a supporting any business- one that actually we re a part of.
i hope when u become a vet- that u ll pass on a good experience to new players one day.

That is how I was on other MMOs. Also, mics play a big role in helping the lower level players out.

CubanRay

I'm new myself,I have been there and it sucks,my main is only level 47 magplar ,now I'm leveling a 2 handed DK Imperial level 16 (need a break from the staff) ,currently I don't have a guild or friends to play so if you want you can invite to do some normal dungeons.
My psn: Rekiem007 AD , NA server.

PsYcHoGBR

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

PsYcHoGBR wrote: »

I'm playing the PC version of ESO. I have 257 CP's. My gear was to my level as I crafted any gear that wasn't. I got kicked at the start of the dungeon before we even started. I have four level 50 toons that I maxed out all the crafting on. Been playing on and off since beta.

When I see people say they have less than 300 CP, I hate to say it, but I look at that as "low". Granted you may have a bunch of experience by having several level 50s, but 300 CP seems to be the benchmark where your CP abilities really kick in.

I am not taking a stand that kicking you was right or wrong, I'm just saying that perhaps if you get a few more CP, you might find you're much more effective.

So what your saying is that a new player shouldn't try any normal dungeons until they have a level 50 character with 300 cp ? I think Zenimax would beg to differ on that one.

MEBengalsFan2001

PsYcHoGBR wrote: »

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

PsYcHoGBR wrote: »

I'm playing the PC version of ESO. I have 257 CP's. My gear was to my level as I crafted any gear that wasn't. I got kicked at the start of the dungeon before we even started. I have four level 50 toons that I maxed out all the crafting on. Been playing on and off since beta.

When I see people say they have less than 300 CP, I hate to say it, but I look at that as "low". Granted you may have a bunch of experience by having several level 50s, but 300 CP seems to be the benchmark where your CP abilities really kick in.

I am not taking a stand that kicking you was right or wrong, I'm just saying that perhaps if you get a few more CP, you might find you're much more effective.

So what your saying is that a new player shouldn't try any normal dungeons until they have a level 50 character with 300 cp ? I think Zenimax would beg to differ on that one.

That is the problem with many MMO games. You have players who expect ABC for basic dungeons. I seen this scenario so many times on other MMOs. I mean I have gotten removed from content where I was clearly the superior player but was booted for a player with higher gear/stats.

Florial

rotaugen454 wrote: »

I'll do normal level with absolutely anyone. I've soloed most of them, and if someone just needs to learn the mechanics, I'll explain it and we drive on. Having anyone at all along will just make it that much easier than soloing, and if I can't run with low levels on normal, it's ME doing something wrong.

Me too but to a point. I've been fortunate in not having experiences where low level players are kicked so I haven't seen much of this. If there was a vote to kick, I would pass. Everyone deserves a chance. However, yesterday another DPS and I (as tank) kicked two low level players from FG2 for basically doing nothing, not responding to suggestions, no healing, etc. I'm not sure what exactly they were doing and we were very patient with them. Yes, we could have eventually made our way through (not sure about the chaining fight and getting around that mechanic) but when folks aren't even trying, they don't deserve to be in the dungeon.

Beardimus

This drives me nuts. Ive leveled new toons recently, 561 CP tho and man the amount of boots / vote to kicks due to level. Even my L48 healer

One 561 in ANY ROLE can carry a group regardless. Normal are straightforward!!

Drives me insane. Especially with queues.

Compound that with trying a Sorc healer and man the idiots come out the woodwork!!