Confusion/questions re: new Group Dungeon tiers.

Phinix1

So now most (all?) public dungeons have a version I and a version II, and each of these have a normal and veteran mode.

For example, Banished Cells I is like the old Banished Cells Normal, but now it has a normal and veteran difficulty mode. Then there is Banished Cells II which is like the old Banished Cells Veteran which also has its own normal and veteran difficulty mode, for a total of 4 modes.

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dungeons

1st question:
Is the skill point quest for Banished Cells I shared between the normal and veteran modes for that dungeon? Same for achievements.

Then there is a whole other tier of special "named" versions for some (?) dungeons which also have their own normal and veteran mode for a total of 6 possible modes for certain dungeons?

2nd question:
Can someone clarify which dungeons have "named" modes beyond I and II and if their quests/achievements are tied to either, and if so which, I or II?

EDIT:

OK, so here's all the possible public dungeons:

NORMAL DUNGEONS:

Fungal Grotto I
Fungal Grotto II
Spindleclutch I
Spindleclutch II
The Banished Cells I
The Banished Cells II
Darkshade Caverns I
Darkshade Caverns II
Elden Hollow I
Elden Hollow II
Wayrest Sewers I
Wayrest Sewers II
Arx Corinium
City of Ash I
City of Ash II
Crypt of Hearts I
Crypt of Hears II
Direfrost Keep
Tempest Island
Volenfel
Blackheart Haven
Blessed Crucible
Selene's Web
Vaults of Madness
Cradle of Shadows
Imperial City Prison
Ruins of Mazzatun
White-Gold Tower

VETERAN DUNGEONS:

Fungal Grotto I
Fungal Grotto II
Spindleclutch I
Spindleclutch II
The Banished Cells I
The Banished Cells II
Darkshade Caverns I
Darkshade Caverns II
Elden Hollow I
Elden Hollow II
Wayrest Sewers I
Wayrest Sewers II
Arx Corinium
City of Ash I
City of Ash II
Crypt of Hearts I
Crypt of Hearts II
Direfrost Keep
Tempest Island
Volenfel
Blackheart Haven
Blessed Crucible
Selene's Web
Vaults of Madness
Cradle of Shadows
Imperial City Prison
Ruins of Mazzatun
White-Gold Tower

So not too confusing, basically the same list in normal and veteran. I am guessing the "named" ones the above link mentions are just dungeons like Arx Corinium that don't have a I and II version.

But how do quests work? If I do the skillpoint quest for The Banished Cells I normal mode, is it shared with The Banished Cells II normal mode?

Am I wrong that there used to be two skillpoints available for each dungeon, one for doing the normal mode quest and another for the veteran mode quest?

itsfatbass

Far as I understand, you get a skill point for the version 1 and version 2 of these. Doesn't matter whether you are doing it on normal or vet. Each version is it's own story, hence a separate quest with skill point.

Zakor

The quest is shared between normal and vet, which means: You can only do the quest once and gain one skillpoint with it.

However, the quests are not shared between I and II version of the dungeons, since those are completly different stories.

The reason behind this was to let players experience both, the I and II, stories of a dungeon without increasing difficulty since not all players are able to run vet content (for we reason)

Phinix1

How do I port to the II version?

On the map tooltip the dungeon Banished Cells for example (which has a I and II version) only shows Banished Cells I.

If I click the icon it asks if I want to port to Banished Cells I.

Is the only way to port to a II version to queue for it?

MissBizz

You can queue specific for version 2 via the group finder, or when you port via wayshrine it should give you an option of going to one or two. If your having troubles you can walk in the front door and a dialogue box pops up asking which story you want to go to.

Have you complete Banished Cells 1 on that character yet? Maybe it won't give you the UI option when wayshrine unless you have completed the first half of the story? That's just a guess though.

Phinix1

Yep that was it. I just had to walk up to the actual door and it said "discovered Banished Cells II" and now the waypoint gives both options.