Solo play really dead?

LuminaLilly

I know I'm probably beating a dead horse by starting this thread. But lately when I step into pvp, I get zerged on, all the time, ALL THE TIME.

One time I find a person by himself riding on his horse. He turns the other way when he sees me and I knock him off his horse. It's a heavy armor Magic cancerplar with sword and shield. W/e I pack him up while he frantically heals and purifies. Outta nowhere, I start getting snipe glitches and boom, his Calvary of about 7+ Comes up from over the hill.

Second scenario, I'm riding between chalkman and arrius, find a blue Zerg, no surprise there. I pull a zergling away from the group, it's a magic cancerplar (***) w/e pack up pack up, they frantically do the cancerplar thing, them boom, 3 NBs and by recap says 3 in caps and a few surprise attacks.

Imperial city... I pack up a blue stameta scrub over and over while he's taking a district. Soon, 8 blues jump on me. They struggle to kill me, then he tbags. Nice....

And they complain only EP zergs...

Ganj

It never been like this before, zergs are heavly buffed because of so many reasons and playing solo or duo its almost impossible.

This guy explained everything well, no need to say more i guess;

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NEkbnOSEwrI

Biro123

No, AD zergs too :-p

Depends what you mean by solo play though.. I solo in the zerg all the time! There are tons of soloers out there who follow the zerg, but often watch the maps and break off to defend resources etc. It means they can play without being tied to 'follow the leader'.

When I'm not soloing with the zerg, I'm often soloing with other soloers at resources.

But if you are expecting to be able to run into other soloers - and be able to fight them 1 on 1 without anybody adding in on either side - well, its not gonna happen. Its not always groups ganking soloers either.. A week or so I got annoyed by one guy who was hanging outside a quiet keep - saw me on the battlements, backed off a little, buffed up, hung around as if wanting me to come out and 1v1 him. So I did and got ganked by 3 stealthed NB's.. I sent him a tell and we ended up chatting. Turned out they weren't with him - and just happened along as the fight started. I think this happens a lot more often than people think. I don't even know if those 3 NB's were in a group together or not.

FloppyTouch

Ur killing people solo then saying solo play is dead?

No solo play is not dead at all I play solo every morning on a mdk of all classes. I stay away from the zergs and set up in areas where I can see far away if anyone is coming and also try to have an escape route planned out if the Zerg comes.

runningtings

I solo all the time too in EU/PC/TF, but usually go where the action is at it can lonely sitting in a field waiting for someone to come by.

One of your scenarios is that you pull a zergling away, isn't it likely she/he is on TS and has just told his group that he is being attacked?

I have had to adapt entirely to how PVP is now, you need to be looking over your shoulder for a storm cloud zerg coming out of nowhere.
Personally it doesn't bother me how the game dynamics change, I just try to adapt.

WillhelmBlack

Yes.

melloni_aleb16_ESO

yes

Lieblingsjunge

Solo-play officially died with 1T, especially when Streamers/Poster-boys making proc/snipe-builds become a thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not the Streamer's or the Poster-boy's fault that game is like it is, but since people generally follow their builds - it's contributed into the cancerous sniper-proctato-setup. But it's not their fault, it's the players.

Unfortunately, the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP seems to have reached 0 with 1T. "Hi, I run viper, selene and alchemist, it would be a shame if I ruined your 1v3...."

melloni_aleb16_ESO

yes

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Solo-play officially died with 1T, especially when Streamers/Poster-boys making proc/snipe-builds become a thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not the Streamer's or the Poster-boy's fault that game is like it is, but since people generally follow their builds - it's contributed into the cancerous sniper-proctato-setup. But it's not their fault, it's the players.

Unfortunately, the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP seems to have reached 0 with 1T. "Hi, I run viper, selene and alchemist, it would be a shame if I ruined your 1v3...."

yes ...unfortunately I agree .

personally by good players ( as sypher ) I would have expected other choices ( as a type of build used) ...
the people have no imagination, are like sheep ....
So players would do the worst things to win ...is a task of the ZeniMax prevent these mechanics may exist .
We hope that Santa Claus brings us a new Wrobel !!

Knootewoot

I know a lot who still solo and I solo most of the times also on my melee magblade. It's just not as easy anymore, but it's not dead (yet)

Ashamray

Playing solo in IC and rarely in Cyro (deep night in the most popular campaigns). In IC on my mplar since release for more than a year and enjoying it.

Ganj

Ashamray wrote: »

Playing solo in IC and rarely in Cyro (deep night in the most popular campaigns). In IC on my mplar since release for more than a year and enjoying it.

And yet we barely find people am i right? IC usually emtpy, because nothing to do there anymore. But yea less lag, more "small scale" if you are lucky enough.

Lexxypwns

I solo play every day. You just have to be ready to get zerged down and not get your feelings hurt.

I mean, if you're getting rekt over and over again and feel helpless of course you're gonna call for help.

Ashamray

Ganj wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Playing solo in IC and rarely in Cyro (deep night in the most popular campaigns). In IC on my mplar since release for more than a year and enjoying it.

And yet we barely find people am i right? IC usually emtpy, because nothing to do there anymore. But yea less lag, more "small scale" if you are lucky enough.

5 \ 7 evenings are pretty active in TF, and 1 of these 5 is really hot. I'd want a bit more ppl for the City though.

White wabbit

Well you have silly Dk tank builds that take 10-20 people to kill them you need zergs , so it's Zos fault allowing all these silly sets

Ourorboros

Why is it a surprise? Sounds like you are good one on one. But numbers will beat a great player every time. It works like this in RL too. We know this. If you kill a few before you die, what's the big deal? No one lives forever in Cyrodiil.

Cinbri

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Solo-play officially died with 1T, especially when Streamers/Poster-boys making proc/snipe-builds become a thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not the Streamer's or the Poster-boy's fault that game is like it is, but since people generally follow their builds - it's contributed into the cancerous sniper-proctato-setup. But it's not their fault, it's the players.

Unfortunately, the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP seems to have reached 0 with 1T. "Hi, I run viper, selene and alchemist, it would be a shame if I ruined your 1v3...."

Stop excusing after each sentence. They are part of problem. Those so-called "famous streamers" knows that they have army of fan-boys that will brainlessly copy every single thing they do no matter how *** it will be and yet they promote broken setups like full-proc-sets you mentioned, or claiming that abuse such bugged sets as malubeth or selene is not bad thing. "the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP", well, those "elites" lost it first and with them their army of followers.
Reminds me old bug when people were wearing double/triple/quadruple number on mundus stones without shame and claimed that "it grant small advantage anyway coz I am too good even without it, so why not abuse it and be even stronger".

warpower9

I run around cyro all the time alone ..mainly cause there are no groups or no groups I can join lol. I zerg surf sure but I break away too. so no solo isn't dead. I play a Templar , but I may switch to a magic nightblade as I been a Templar forever rofl.

FENGRUSH

Cinbri wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Solo-play officially died with 1T, especially when Streamers/Poster-boys making proc/snipe-builds become a thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not the Streamer's or the Poster-boy's fault that game is like it is, but since people generally follow their builds - it's contributed into the cancerous sniper-proctato-setup. But it's not their fault, it's the players.

Unfortunately, the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP seems to have reached 0 with 1T. "Hi, I run viper, selene and alchemist, it would be a shame if I ruined your 1v3...."

Stop excusing after each sentence. They are part of problem. Those so-called "famous streamers" knows that they have army of fan-boys that will brainlessly copy every single thing they do no matter how *** it will be and yet they promote broken setups like full-proc-sets you mentioned, or claiming that abuse such bugged sets as malubeth or selene is not bad thing. "the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP", well, those "elites" lost it first and with them their army of followers.
Reminds me old bug when people were wearing double/triple/quadruple number on mundus stones without shame and claimed that "it grant small advantage anyway coz I am too good even without it, so why not abuse it and be even stronger".

lol

Biro123

I have never known a game where people complain about others for using cheesy builds anywhere near as much as this one. We're not talking cheating here - just cheesy combinations of sets/stats etc.

Isn't one of the whole aims of endgame for MMO's to come up with and obtain the strongest builds you can..? You can't blame ANY of the players for that.

You don't see the F1 teams going 'hm, this engine is a bit overpowered when combined with this transmission.. I think I'll switch it out for a this one in my Ford Focus.. Don't want to be accused of cheese afterall.. '

Emothic

Just in a real war, a single soldier will not be able to stand up to the might of an army. Or in the terms of this game, a zerg. Fighting in large numbers has a greater chance of victory in which ever situation arises. I personally find it quite foolish to fight alone in pvp, as you are not as an effective figher if you were fighting with other members of your alliance. Meaning, you can be far more deadlier in a battler fighting along side with others, then fighting on your own.

Though many players can fight 1 vs. X number of players. They let their pride get in their way, and thus if they fought along with others, they could be a realy force to be feared on the battlefield.

Isellskooma

24 man zergs are my life.

Lieblingsjunge

Cinbri wrote: »

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Solo-play officially died with 1T, especially when Streamers/Poster-boys making proc/snipe-builds become a thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not the Streamer's or the Poster-boy's fault that game is like it is, but since people generally follow their builds - it's contributed into the cancerous sniper-proctato-setup. But it's not their fault, it's the players.

Unfortunately, the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP seems to have reached 0 with 1T. "Hi, I run viper, selene and alchemist, it would be a shame if I ruined your 1v3...."

Stop excusing after each sentence. They are part of problem. Those so-called "famous streamers" knows that they have army of fan-boys that will brainlessly copy every single thing they do no matter how *** it will be and yet they promote broken setups like full-proc-sets you mentioned, or claiming that abuse such bugged sets as malubeth or selene is not bad thing. "the lack of player respect & dignity in PvP", well, those "elites" lost it first and with them their army of followers.
Reminds me old bug when people were wearing double/triple/quadruple number on mundus stones without shame and claimed that "it grant small advantage anyway coz I am too good even without it, so why not abuse it and be even stronger".

Depends how you look at it. "Model X at Catwalk Y wore that dress, so now everyone else is following that trend!" < People's fualt, not the model who does her/his job. But in some sense, yes. I just don't like being so rude, that's all.

I'm simply saying that being 1) Proud of exploiting is stupid, no matter who you are. And ruining a 1v3 or a 1v2 with a full proctato-build(snipe included), shows complete lack of it. 2) People follow like sheep. Not talking about any groups, but.. people follow.

Brrrofski

Biro123 wrote: »

I have never known a game where people complain about others for using cheesy builds anywhere near as much as this one. We're not talking cheating here - just cheesy combinations of sets/stats etc.

Isn't one of the whole aims of endgame for MMO's to come up with and obtain the strongest builds you can..? You can't blame ANY of the players for that.

You don't see the F1 teams going 'hm, this engine is a bit overpowered when combined with this transmission.. I think I'll switch it out for a this one in my Ford Focus.. Don't want to be accused of cheese afterall.. '

No, I blame zos. The combat on this game is incredible. But you no longer get to properly experience it as it's nothing but certain proc sets and numbers.

thankyourat

I don't think it's the zergs that kill solo play, it's the lag. hard to play solo when you can't switch bars or cc break. These nightblades aren't helping either. they always wait for me to get in a fight with 2 or 3 people then incap me from stealth or hit me with a bow heavy attack or spam snipe. These nightblades are so annoying. Even still playing solo can be fun at times mainly in the morning when the campaign isn't over run and the lag isn't as bad. I almost forgot about that stamina draining poison. I only have 10k stam if i get poisoned with that I might as well prepare for the horse ride back

NBrookus

Imperial city... I pack up a blue stameta scrub over and over while he's taking a district. Soon, 8 blues jump on me. They struggle to kill me, then he tbags.

You were a *** and ganked one guy repeatedly, then complain when he comes back with friends to take you out?

Much lols.

driosketch

AlphaNicole wrote: »

One time I find a person by himself riding on his horse. He turns the other way when he sees me and I knock him off his horse. It's a heavy armor Magic cancerplar with sword and shield. W/e I pack him up while he frantically heals and purifies. Outta nowhere, I start getting snipe glitches and boom, his Calvary of about 7+ Comes up from over the hill.

It's not a difficult concept. Some players aren't great one on one, just want to play for objectives, and dislike getting gank. So they build defensively and run. The player in question probably wasn't grouped, riding to where the action was, and the seven arriving was because it was the pathway between keeps. That's my guess.

KundaliniHero

AlphaNicole wrote: »

I know I'm probably beating a dead horse by starting this thread. But lately when I step into pvp, I get zerged on, all the time, ALL THE TIME.

One time I find a person by himself riding on his horse. He turns the other way when he sees me and I knock him off his horse. It's a heavy armor Magic cancerplar with sword and shield. W/e I pack him up while he frantically heals and purifies. Outta nowhere, I start getting snipe glitches and boom, his Calvary of about 7+ Comes up from over the hill.

Second scenario, I'm riding between chalkman and arrius, find a blue Zerg, no surprise there. I pull a zergling away from the group, it's a magic cancerplar (***) w/e pack up pack up, they frantically do the cancerplar thing, them boom, 3 NBs and by recap says 3 in caps and a few surprise attacks.

Imperial city... I pack up a blue stameta scrub over and over while he's taking a district. Soon, 8 blues jump on me. They struggle to kill me, then he tbags. Nice....

And they complain only EP zergs...

I dont get how you expect soloers to run headlong into zergs over and over again, that kind of mind numbing fun has got to have its limits. I think though that if you are seeking some semblance of fairness perhaps dueling would fit your playstyle better.

Also on PS4 NA Daggerfall we are constantly being 20+ zerged by EP and AD so please let us have our paltry 9 man groups or whatever we manage to scrap together, because its nothing in comparison to the herds of skilless as*hats we have to wade through on a daily basis.

Kutsuu

I still solo successfully just like I have since game launch. It's never changed for me - zergs are zergs and they're all glad to chase a solo player down. I enjoy the challenge of evading them, dividing and conquering...

There are games like Archeage, blade & soul, etc, that have structured 1v1 arenas if you don't want to solo in an open world environment where "unfair" happens constantly.

I suppose you could also just stand around in rawl'kha dueling.

Mayrael

I run solo since... Return to ESO. Ive noticed 0 long loading screens when out of groups so Ive decided to run like this. After few weeks you can tell when to engage and when to run for your live, where to look for 1v1 and when i you have to be ready to be zerged. Its still possible to 1v1 but there are two classes that are easier for solo play than others, those are stam and mag blades or magsorc. Why? Disengage abillity. When you get caught by a zerg these classes are incredibly effeftive in not getting killed and then hunting down loneley sheeps that left their zerg to chase you Its amazing how many ppl still tries to chase you. Yeah its not easy to deal with 3 proc set users alone but its possible. Divide and conquer.

Nutshotz

But that's the thing. A lot of us that choose not to run these cheese a $$ proc sets are the ones getting called scrubs cuz we run solo in game or don't have enough CP to run with a certain AD or DC group. I laugh at the CP one all the time. AD/DC are zerging hardcore these past few weeks/months and I mean hardcore. So yes it is making it hard to solo. I for one have been focusing on EP lately cuz less #'s and it's more of a challenge soloing AD and DC. Now don't get me wrong soloing is awesome but also very frustrating against these proc sets.