Update #1- Thunderous Roar: World Boss Buster Build

Savos_Saren

I wanted to make a tank that could effectively go toe-to-toe with any world boss in the game. It needed to high resistances, high damage, and high heals. This is the best that I could come up with. Remember, kiddies, this build is for tanking any content in the game except veteran trials![

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The build uses:
2 medium Molag Kena
5 heavy Seventh Legion
5 jewelry/sword/board Briarheart

Khajiit, stamsorc, all attributes into stamina. Thief Mundus

Note: The image that you see is on the sword and board bar. He's got a Briarheart bow on his backbar.

Let me know what you think!

Vorcil

Broken...

People shouldn't be able to tank, heal and dps.

Stamsorcs need a lot of nerfs

Savos_Saren

Vorcil wrote: »

Broken...

People shouldn't be able to tank, heal and dps.

Stamsorcs need a lot of nerfs

Uh... all classes can do this. This is what happens when you make a build that's not a pure "meta" tank. You can actually do decent damage and self-heals as a solo build. You won't be running vet trials any time soon- but you can have a ton of fun in the mean time!

Here's some solo tank builds that have high DPS, high heals, and high survivability:

Magic DK:
5 Akaviri Dragonguard, 5 Silks of the Sun, 2 Valkyn. The DPS and heals from Burning Embers, Flame Lash, and Draw Essence are fantastic!

Stam DK:
5 Black Rose, 5 Knight's Errant, 2 Tremorscale. High DPS and Heals EVERY TIME you hit Puncture.

Magic NB:
5 Leeching Plate, 5 Bahraha, 2 Malubeth. High DPS and Heals just by placing Refreshing Path or Sap Essence.

Stam NB:
You're screwed.

Magic Templar:
5 Soulshine, 5 Spellpower Cure, 2 Chokethorn. Soulshine increases not only damage of your puncturing sweep- but the heals from it as well.

Stam Templar:
You can pretty much use the same build as my Khajiit- but I'd trade Molag Kena for Sentinel of Rkugamz.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

My critique would be why briarhart bow?
If you have sword and board then doesn't that mean the bow will only be a 4th piece buff bar? Maybe use a maelstrom one?

Also Kena?
Is that the best option especially with all these new sets?

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Vorcil wrote: »

Broken...

People shouldn't be able to tank, heal and dps.

Stamsorcs need a lot of nerfs

Nice good contribution.
#NERF EVERYTHING UNTIL WE ALL FIST FIGHT NAKED.

DPShiro

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

jroc699_burr

Looks nice how can we get that crit resist up way more and bring that bad boy to pvp i was thinking of a stam sorc tank for pvp because of this please let me know how he is on the world bosses

DPShiro

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

stevepdodson_ESO888

DPShiro wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

just by looking at the stats 29K stam, 56% weap crit, 5.6K weap dmg I think he will do quite alot of damage on any boss with the advantage of self sustain/helas

DPShiro

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

just by looking at the stats 29K stam, 56% weap crit, 5.6K weap dmg I think je will do quite alot of damage on any boss with the advantage of self sustain/helas

Hard to tell by just looking at stats. High weapon damage =/= high dps.
Would probably help if he posted bars, champion points and rotation.

Erock25

But why? I haven't found a world boss I can't solo yet with 12k HP (no food) in my pve DPS gear.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

DPShiro wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

He has another thread and states he uses it in vet dungeons when pugging. Only does not uses in trails but said he's tanked all vet dungeons with it.

Lava_Croft

Why do you need to tank world bosses when you can just solo DPS them?

GreenhaloX

Your snapshot is impressive, and although the high numbers are showing, I just can't do the math where you are able to get all those high stats with the build you listed; particularly the 5677 wpn dam. Mola Kena, 7th legion or Briarheart barely gives wpn dam internally. 5 pieces 7th Legion gives you 124-129 wpn dam, plus the 5-piece perk only give about 490 extra wpn dam for certain seconds when proc. Briarheart gives no extra wpn damage, except when proc, it can get extra 425-ish for certain seconds. I'm sure you use max wpn dam enchants on your jewelries which get extra 174 wpn dam a piece for the 3 jewelries. Also, with some crazy rocket scientist calculation, certain percentage of stamina calculates into added weapon damages. Yet, I can't see it, your build adding up to 5677 wpn dam. Tanks are traditionally high health and high resistance, but with that wpn dam is sacrificed and lower. Again impressive and good for you, but not making any sense on how a tank can have all the cake and eat it too.

jroc699_burr

i cant even get that dps on my stam sorc regularly lol let alone with a tanky build

Belicourt

where the heck is the mag version of the seventh legion bs?

Reorx_Holybeard

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Your snapshot is impressive, and although the high numbers are showing, I just can't do the math where you are able to get all those high stats with the build you listed; particularly the 5677 wpn dam. Mola Kena, 7th legion or Briarheart barely gives wpn dam internally. 5 pieces 7th Legion gives you 124-129 wpn dam, plus the 5-piece perk only give about 490 extra wpn dam for certain seconds when proc. Briarheart gives no extra wpn damage, except when proc, it can get extra 425-ish for certain seconds. I'm sure you use max wpn dam enchants on your jewelries which get extra 174 wpn dam a piece for the 3 jewelries. Also, with some crazy rocket scientist calculation, certain percentage of stamina calculates into added weapon damages. Yet, I can't see it, your build adding up to 5677 wpn dam. Tanks are traditionally high health and high resistance, but with that wpn dam is sacrificed and lower. Again impressive and good for you, but not making any sense on how a tank can have all the cake and eat it too.

It does seem high but it does look possible in the exact right circumstances:

• 516 Molag Proc
• 488 Sevength Legion Proc
• 444 Briarheart Proc
• +5% from Sword and Board II passive
• Up to 20% from Fights Guild and Sorcerer passives (depends on what skill/ultimates are slotted)
• +20% Major Brutality
• +348 from Weapon Damage Enchantment
• Up to +200 from Heavy Armor Wrayth

In the right circumstances you can get almost 6000 weapon damage with this build although I'd have to agree with the other posters that a high weapon damage is not the only thing you want in a build. If you take out all 3 proc buffs then you're usually going to be at around 3000 weapon damage with this build which is pretty good for a tank build but not that high.

I would at least switch out Molag Kena for another monster set...any of the stamina DPS sets would probably be better. With a whole 27k stamina and 800 recovery you're not going to last very long with Ken procced, even with your recovery boosted by Heavy Armor constitution.

It would be interesting to see what sort of uptime you could get with Briarheart and Seventh Legion though.

Kutsuu

I've been soloing world bosses with 16-18k HP on my normal vMA builds - shoot I only ran into a few I couldn't kill on my new magplar while skysharding/lorebooking in the level 10-40 range just spamming jabs and heavy attacking for sustain. I also do most non-DLC vet dungeons with 3 DPS and 1 healer due to the high survivability of this type of build.

I mean, it's cool and good to be different. Everyone is trying to make the point that you could do even better with something else, but if you enjoy that build and it does what you want that's really what matters.

Savos_Saren

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

He has another thread and states he uses it in vet dungeons when pugging. Only does not uses in trails but said he's tanked all vet dungeons with it.

@Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Thanks, bud. You basically said everything I would've said- but I was sleeping. I appreciate when people on the forums gravitate toward positive input!

@DPShiro

You could work on "positive feedback" instead of hopping in a forum and negatively criticizing everything... otherwise, you come off as sounding like a snarky, elitist troll. "Molag Kena is bad"- Yeah... it works for my situation. "...but each boss will probably take 2h+..." Cool story, bro. "Also, like how you mention a build without mentioning..." Well, I did post all my stats (with a screenshot) and mention the armor, race, mundus, and attributes. But, if you want every single detail- you could've just asked instead of sounding like a sarcastic forum junkie. I'll start typing up the details while you get some new cereal... it seems like someone pissed in yours this morning.

Savos_Saren

@GreenhaloX

It looks like @Reorx_Holybeard is on the right path!

Not only can it gain HUGE weapon damage from the procs- but, it maintains high crit while having high crit damage.

Sword and Board bar:
-Crit Surge
-Pierce Armor
-Bound Armaments
-Hurricane
-Rearming Trap (This is what gives the build an extra "Umph!")
-Flawless Dawnbreaker

Bow Bar:
-Endless Hail
-Poison Injection
-Bound Armaments
-Hurricane/Flex spot
-Camouflaged Hunter
-Flawless Dawnbreaker

Since this is for soloing world bosses- I like to take advantage of my Khajiit skills. Sneaky first- then tanky.

Buff with Surge, pop Poison Injection from stealth, and make it rain Endless Hail. As you rush in, your fur builds static (obviously) so, pop Hurricane, Pierce Armor, and lay a lovely Rearming Trap at the beast's feet. (buff those critical strikes!) Steal his wares when he dies.

Constellations:
Warlord: 78
Mooncalf: 79
Shadow Ward: 30

Mighty: 97
Piercing: 30
Precise Strikes: 30
Thaumaturge: 30

Spellshield: 40
Hardy: 30
Elemental Defender: 30
Thick Skinned: 15
Heavy Armor focus: 72

Savos_Saren

Belicourt wrote: »

where the heck is the mag version of the seventh legion bs?

You know what's funny? I like to theorycraft builds like a mad scientist. I was thinking: "Why can't I give my MagSorc tank this type of damage, extra heals, and crit?" Well... you kinda can.

I'm working on a few builds where I utilize my favorite stamina sets (like briarheart) and convert them into magic sets (by using Pelinal's Aptitude)

I've actually working on a Dunmer MagSorc right now as I'm posting this in the forums! I might pop a screen shot to show some progress in a bit.

RavenSworn

jaburns wrote: »

Vorcil wrote: »

Broken...

People shouldn't be able to tank, heal and dps.

Stamsorcs need a lot of nerfs

Uh... all classes can do this. This is what happens when you make a build that's not a pure "meta" tank. You can actually do decent damage and self-heals as a solo build. You won't be running vet trials any time soon- but you can have a ton of fun in the mean time!

Here's some solo tank builds that have high DPS, high heals, and high survivability:

Magic DK:
5 Akaviri Dragonguard, 5 Silks of the Sun, 2 Valkyn. The DPS and heals from Burning Embers, Flame Lash, and Draw Essence are fantastic!

Stam DK:
5 Black Rose, 5 Knight's Errant, 2 Tremorscale. High DPS and Heals EVERY TIME you hit Puncture.

Magic NB:
5 Leeching Plate, 5 Bahraha, 2 Malubeth. High DPS and Heals just by placing Refreshing Path or Sap Essence.

Stam NB:
You're screwed.<

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Magic Templar:
5 Soulshine, 5 Spellpower Cure, 2 Chokethorn. Soulshine increases not only damage of your puncturing sweep- but the heals from it as well.

Stam Templar:
You can pretty much use the same build as my Khajiit- but I'd trade Molag Kena for Sentinel of Rkugamz.

I currently use a pseudo build of akaviri dragon guard and hide of the werewolf. Two hander for back bar used for buffs and sustain (rally and brawler for world bosses that calls adds) sword and shield for tanky goodness. Night blades inherently have good damage which augments the build. Works well so far.

Had an idea for stamina nb as well, using the dragon guard set paired with witchman. Incap strike and the sword shield ultimate are cheap ult, which complements well with these sets. Something to take note.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

jaburns wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

DPShiro wrote: »

Kena is really bad.

Also you would do a lot better with 5x NMG/TBS + 5x VO / 3x Agility + 2 Velidreth / 2 Kragh and of course VMA Bow+ 2x DW.
Surge + Hurricane keeps you alive anyway.

Also like how you post a "build" without even mentioning bar setups, champion points, rotation etc.

Yea but it's clearly not going for the regular medium armour pve build with VO etc.

It's going for a tank build that can self heal and DPS in dungeons whilst tanking the boss.

It states it's for world bosses, not tanking dungeons.
Sure that setup might make you nearly impossible to kill, but each boss will probably take 2h+ too.

He has another thread and states he uses it in vet dungeons when pugging. Only does not uses in trails but said he's tanked all vet dungeons with it.

@Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Thanks, bud. You basically said everything I would've said- but I was sleeping. I appreciate when people on the forums gravitate toward positive input!

@DPShiro

You could work on "positive feedback" instead of hopping in a forum and negatively criticizing everything... otherwise, you come off as sounding like a snarky, elitist troll. "Molag Kena is bad"- Yeah... it works for my situation. "...but each boss will probably take 2h+..." Cool story, bro. "Also, like how you mention a build without mentioning..." Well, I did post all my stats (with a screenshot) and mention the armor, race, mundus, and attributes. But, if you want every single detail- you could've just asked instead of sounding like a sarcastic forum junkie. I'll start typing up the details while you get some new cereal... it seems like someone pissed in yours this morning.

No prob dude and thanks for the interesting build, been playing stam sorc a lot recently and will try it out at some point. Those sharpened briarhart 1H are so rare not seen any in guild traders.

GreenhaloX

jaburns wrote: »

@GreenhaloX

It looks like @Reorx_Holybeard is on the right path!

Not only can it gain HUGE weapon damage from the procs- but, it maintains high crit while having high crit damage.

Sword and Board bar:
-Crit Surge
-Pierce Armor
-Bound Armaments
-Hurricane
-Rearming Trap (This is what gives the build an extra "Umph!")
-Flawless Dawnbreaker

Bow Bar:
-Endless Hail
-Poison Injection
-Bound Armaments
-Hurricane/Flex spot
-Camouflaged Hunter
-Flawless Dawnbreaker

Since this is for soloing world bosses- I like to take advantage of my Khajiit skills. Sneaky first- then tanky.

Buff with Surge, pop Poison Injection from stealth, and make it rain Endless Hail. As you rush in, your fur builds static (obviously) so, pop Hurricane, Pierce Armor, and lay a lovely Rearming Trap at the beast's feet. (buff those critical strikes!) Steal his wares when he dies.

Constellations:
Warlord: 78
Mooncalf: 79
Shadow Ward: 30

Mighty: 97
Piercing: 30
Precise Strikes: 30
Thaumaturge: 30

Spellshield: 40
Hardy: 30
Elemental Defender: 30
Thick Skinned: 15
Heavy Armor focus: 72

Cool, thanks for showing your CP spread. So, to achieve that high of wpn dam, it must be geared towards a sword and shield build. I have a 2H DK, heavy armor focus, with DKS 5-piece base, 2-piece Skoria and 3-piece agility with all gold wpn dam enchants. I use a stand-alone (no choice on this currently) sharpened greatsword with gold wpn dam enchant. The DKK gives internal 129 extra (no proc) wpn dam and major brutality at all times. The 2-h passive gives extra 5% wpn dam. I use dawnbreaker on my front bar (2-h), with 2 other fighter skills with total of 11% extra wpn dam. My Ritual part of the Atronach is similar to your. I also use the Warrior mundus. With these, I'm barely breaking 3700 overall wpn dam (no proc). I can break into the 4k, if I use two more fighter skills, but I will have to sacrifice my Crit Rush and Igneous Shield, which I'm not willing to give up. If I switch my build to others like Hunding Rage or to Clever Alchemist, I lose about 500-600 wpn dam and my spell/phys resistance goes way down. For a 2H DK, this the best I can come up with so far. Although, I'm working to get the VO sets to combo (to replace the DKS) and see if this will make any difference.

Currently, I can sustain anywhere from 30-40k dps, using my heavy/wrecking blow combo, aside from using the rearming trap. I can fair well and solo world bosses, particularly the DLC ones, except that damn Mad Orge where his damn minion keeps rejuvenating him. I can also fair well in vet dungeons and vet trials; although many hardcore players seem to have the animosity against 2H. I can't agree with whatever their beef is. I'm sure my dps output is not quite as high as your at 5677, but with my 2H, if I have a tank, I can dps any boss all day with good dps output and without losing much stam. Imagine if I can have my wpn dam level close to your. But again, good for you for that build. That's impressive and seems to be one of the better build I have seen so far, as far as survivability and ability to dish out high dps. I won't be dueling you anytime soon.

Kutsuu

If you're saying that you do 40k DPS with a 2her when self-buffed, you should really do a bloodspawn test and share it with the trials crowd. They'll love to see a competitive 2h build! That's great.

GreenhaloX

Kutsuu wrote: »

If you're saying that you do 40k DPS with a 2her when self-buffed, you should really do a bloodspawn test and share it with the trials crowd. They'll love to see a competitive 2h build! That's great.

I heard of it, but never try or know how to go about getting into that bloodspawn test or what do you accomplish from it. I don't usually do any test or gear towards any achievement. I just play the game. Keep in mind, I am comboing heavy and wreck blow together. This is sort of like animation cancelling. When crit hits, then yes, I can range in the higher 30k and close to or breaking 40k. With using it when the rearming trap is activated, I believe my dps combo goes a bit higher. Without crit hit, I'm probably around 33-36k. Still, this is really nothing to brag about, which I am surely not doing. Just putting it out as reference. I have heard of other toons who can dish out 50k or more dps. Now, that is impressive.

Kutsuu

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

If you're saying that you do 40k DPS with a 2her when self-buffed, you should really do a bloodspawn test and share it with the trials crowd. They'll love to see a competitive 2h build! That's great.

I heard of it, but never try or know how to go about getting into that bloodspawn test or what do you accomplish from it. I don't usually do any test or gear towards any achievement. I just play the game. Keep in mind, I am comboing heavy and wreck blow together. This is sort of like animation cancelling. When crit hits, then yes, I can range in the higher 30k and close to or breaking 40k. With using it when the rearming trap is activated, I believe my dps combo goes a bit higher. Without crit hit, I'm probably around 33-36k. Still, this is really nothing to brag about, which I am surely not doing. Just putting it out as reference. I have heard of other toons who can dish out 50k or more dps. Now, that is impressive.

Bloodspawn is a boss with 3 million HP that is a tank and spank encounter. You get a tank to tank him for you, then you kill him and record your DPS. Those 50k parses are done with support, not self buffed. If you're doing 40k self buffed then it's definitely something to share.

Autolycus

I find this very interesting and agree that this kind of thing is totally doable and okay for the content you specified. Like you said, you won't be taking this into vet trials anytime soon, but that's not what this is for.

Personally, I would rather use my stam sorc in the current setup with 5 TBS + 5 VO. The reason I'd rather use this is because with the amount of pure mitigation and self-healing available to a stam Sorc in an all-out dps build is substantially higher than that of other stamina builds. I've face-tanked a great many bosses in Overland, vet dungeons, IC, and even some circumstances in trials while someone else gets a rez without any issue. It really comes down to blocking or dodging one specific attack (or two) on the most threatening bosses, else just dealing damage is enough to heal back up. In full medium + Hurricane, resistances are high enough to mitigate almost everything to a large enough extent that a single crit surge proc is sufficient. And on that note, I'd suggest always using Hurricane, and considering something else for a flex spot. Perhaps Camo Hunter, and use potions for savagery instead? Major Endurance + Savagery is pretty easy and relatively inexpensive, and you already get Brutality from Surge.

I think this setup might make more sense on another class. As a stam sorc, I see a couple of inefficiencies. Resources are easier to manage in a dps setup, damage is more consistent and easier to manage as well. You'd get more weapon damage and crit from using at least 5 pieces of medium armor, which means more reliable self-healing and damage. Thus, encounters would be more efficient without losing a great deal of survivability. You can afford to give up 10k armor and spell resist and simply block power attacks, and be just as well-off. It might even make sense to trade 7th Legion for a crafted set like Hundings (just an arbitrary example, maybe not the best option for this), where the crit will boost both your damage and healing, and you can then use 5 medium and a couple of heavy, or do a 5/1/1 setup.

I don't want to seem too negative; I like what you've done and I think it's very interesting. What works for you, well, simply works for you. I'm sure many others can take this setup and enjoy it to the extent that you have as well. What I've said here is meant to be constructive; if it is to your liking and it helps, then I'm glad. If you choose to disregard entirely, that's fine too.

DRXHarbinger

It's the wrong set up for a stam sorc. They need high stam. .very high stam. Look at your tool tips if you run 42k stam and 3500 weapon damage and 100 in mighty and 87 in therm. Much much higher than just dumping it into weapon damage.

My rend tool tip goes for 69k self buffed using just Tbs, VO and Krags and vma daggers. Meaning that *** is hitting for well over 120k empowered+crits+trap giving me a tasty 80ks worth of heals over 16s. ...who needs heavy armor at all with that+surge, thirst and blood craze, nigh invincible with 21k res.

Just not needed at all.

Savos_Saren

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

It's the wrong set up for a stam sorc. They need high stam. .very high stam. Look at your tool tips if you run 42k stam and 3500 weapon damage and 100 in mighty and 87 in therm. Much much higher than just dumping it into weapon damage.

My rend tool tip goes for 69k self buffed using just Tbs, VO and Krags and vma daggers. Meaning that *** is hitting for well over 120k empowered+crits+trap giving me a tasty 80ks worth of heals over 16s. ...who needs heavy armor at all with that+surge, thirst and blood craze, nigh invincible with 21k res.

Just not needed at all.

Wow. So this post is specifically about a heavy armored tank with sword and board...
...and you hijack it- talking about a medium armored build with dual wielding swords?

That's the equivalent of a light armored magsorc chiming in about how they can pull higher dps with a destro staff...

No sh*t, Sherlock.

This post is about what a tank can do.