Proxy Det in PvE, is it worth it?

Valykc

Working on a Magicka Nightblade, among multiple other projects, and was looking for a huge trash killing machine for PvE going Destro/Dual Wield. I was hoping to be able to rush into a group of mobs after stacking twisting path and elemental blockade, switch to duel wield, hit proxy Det, jump into the group of trash adds spam sap essence and proc Grothdarr, the. Hit soul tether and proxy detonation should explode. Everything should be dead right? My question is in regards to Proxy, after the nerf is it still worth running in PvE? Or is it a huge Magicka dump that hits like an overcooked spaghetti noodle? I am grinding in the alliance war for it and want to know if I'm wasting my time or not.

Thanks community!

P.S. This is just in terms of trash mobs, I will not do this for bosses.

Dasovaruilos

It is not very common, but I've seen a couple of players using them.

I remember one could time it very well in that boss that says "Come to me, my minions" and 1 million rats spawn. He wiped them down with Proxy Det.

But I really don't know if it is optimal, because the majority of players don't use it on dungeons.

danno8

Going from 4 seconds to 8 seconds was a massive nerf for dungeon use since it basically gave it a 50% nerf to dps.

In addition they nerfed the damage by half, but upped the bonus to compensate to make it more useful against groups, but less useful against smaller groups (and useless against single targets).

The end result is now it is a situational skill where timing is very important and you require a whole lot of mobs to make it worthwhile since you can use it only every 8 seconds.

Still has uses in PvP, but in PvE I tend to think it is too cumbersome to use very effectively in most situations.

altemriel

danno8 wrote: »

Going from 4 seconds to 8 seconds was a massive nerf for dungeon use since it basically gave it a 50% nerf to dps.

In addition they nerfed the damage by half, but upped the bonus to compensate to make it more useful against groups, but less useful against smaller groups (and useless against single targets).

The end result is now it is a situational skill where timing is very important and you require a whole lot of mobs to make it worthwhile since you can use it only every 8 seconds.

Still has uses in PvP, but in PvE I tend to think it is too cumbersome to use very effectively in most situations.

hmm, I did not know it was nerfed. Do you know in which patch notes they mention it? I am searching trought the latest ones and can not find it somehow


edit: aha, found it: IC patch: http://deltiasgaming.com/2015/07/28/eso-imperial-city-patch-notes-breakdown/

danno8

altemriel wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Going from 4 seconds to 8 seconds was a massive nerf for dungeon use since it basically gave it a 50% nerf to dps.

In addition they nerfed the damage by half, but upped the bonus to compensate to make it more useful against groups, but less useful against smaller groups (and useless against single targets).

The end result is now it is a situational skill where timing is very important and you require a whole lot of mobs to make it worthwhile since you can use it only every 8 seconds.

Still has uses in PvP, but in PvE I tend to think it is too cumbersome to use very effectively in most situations.

hmm, I did not know it was nerfed. Do you know in which patch notes they mention it? I am searching trought the latest ones and can not find it somehow


edit: aha, found it: IC patch: http://deltiasgaming.com/2015/07/28/eso-imperial-city-patch-notes-breakdown/

That was just the first pass nerf/buff.

There was another one after that. The current tooltip reads "+25% for each enemy hit up to a maximum of 250%"

With that change the dropped the damage again. Again if you have lots of baddies surrounding you it's a great skill. You can hit 10k dps just hitting the button every 8 seconds. If you only have 1,2,3 enemies it's not so great.

bigted209

I run it on my magDK for the fact that he is ALWAYS right in the middle of everything causing chaos. Agreed it's effectiveness is very situational, but I still find it to be a useful addition to the damage rotation