Zenimax: Mushrooms Mean More than Balance

Thelon

So a few potatoes RP-walk up to ZOS and ask for a wider fungal variety in ESO. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

The PvP community provides a plethora of feedback showing how the weapon ultimates further the embarrassing divide between stamina and magicka. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

It's unlikely we'll be making any additional changes to the Weapon Ultimates

Meanwhile, Wrobel be like:

Egonieser

Yep. This triggers me immensely!

DHale

I just don't see why they divert people and resources to fix things that don't need fixed or nerf things that don't need nerfed? #perplexed.

Birdovic

Tamriel One is more of a "Profit-Update" than anything else.

First, there is the absurd Crown Crates Stuff,
secondly we also have only BoP now in dungeons ("buy our dungeon dlc's!!!")

Edit:
Third, its aimed at luring in new players to make as much use of both aforementioned points as much as possible.

Daemons_Bane

DHale wrote: »

I just don't see why they divert people and resources to fix things that don't need fixed or nerf things that don't need nerfed? #perplexed.

Well when you one day get a job where you can make the decisions, you can decide if mushrooms are worth it

Wollust

That's ZoS for you

Berenhir

Well, they just don't want competitive PvP in this game. Probably they look at the amount of players doing regular PvP and it's just not worth the effort to do regular balancing?

DHale

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

I just don't see why they divert people and resources to fix things that don't need fixed or nerf things that don't need nerfed? #perplexed.

Well when you one day get a job where you can make the decisions, you can decide if mushrooms are worth it

I was a manager for seven years and a director for nine years... Mushrooms are not worth it.... Customer satisfaction is the desired outcome. Confirmed. #customerisalwaysright

C0wrex

Shrooms man! Can't live without 'em!

altemriel

updated mushrooms? Like they mean they added some more kinds, or just tuned up the graphics of those already existing??

Grunim

I was glad to see the shroom change because I can go look for Nam Rot in more zones for my PvP pots.

*Scampers away to go mushroom picking*

rotaugen454

Perhaps the OP is fortunate enough not to be fungally challenged, but for the rest of us, this is life changing.

Strider_Roshin

Thelon wrote: »

So a few potatoes RP-walk up to ZOS and ask for a wider fungal variety in ESO. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

The PvP community provides a plethora of feedback showing how the weapon ultimates further the embarrassing divide between stamina and magicka. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

It's unlikely we'll be making any additional changes to the Weapon Ultimates

Meanwhile, Wrobel be like:

Heavy armored builds are currently the meta for PvP. What does ZOS do?

Provides an armor set that does this:


Provides an Undaunted set that does this:


And an Ultimate that does this:



*Slow Clap*

Thelon

Wollust wrote: »

That's ZoS for you

ya, epic fail is epic

Egonieser

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Thelon wrote: »

So a few potatoes RP-walk up to ZOS and ask for a wider fungal variety in ESO. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

The PvP community provides a plethora of feedback showing how the weapon ultimates further the embarrassing divide between stamina and magicka. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

It's unlikely we'll be making any additional changes to the Weapon Ultimates

Meanwhile, Wrobel be like:

Heavy armored builds are currently the meta for PvP. What does ZOS do?

Provides an armor set that does this:


Provides an Undaunted set that does this:


And an Ultimate that does this:



*Slow Clap*

I died a little inside after looking at these pictures.

As if tanks are not hard enough to kill as it is, and not only they are tanky as heck, they can also throw a mean punch I mean c'mon... We had Elder Robes Online, then Elder Hundings Rage Online, now it's Elder Steel Online, you think it will do a full circle soon?

bebynnag

altemriel wrote: »

updated mushrooms? Like they mean they added some more kinds, or just tuned up the graphics of those already existing??

@altemriel

i think it means all the existing mushrooms will now be found in all zones, apparently some starter zones didnt have certain times of mushrooms growing there

which basically means we now have GMshrooms in tamriel!

driosketch

To be fair, the limited variety of mushrooms in lower zones was added in many many patches ago. Probably could have had one guy remove a line of code with a few key strokes.

Strider_Roshin

Egonieser wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Thelon wrote: »

So a few potatoes RP-walk up to ZOS and ask for a wider fungal variety in ESO. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

The PvP community provides a plethora of feedback showing how the weapon ultimates further the embarrassing divide between stamina and magicka. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

It's unlikely we'll be making any additional changes to the Weapon Ultimates

Meanwhile, Wrobel be like:

Heavy armored builds are currently the meta for PvP. What does ZOS do?

Provides an armor set that does this:


Provides an Undaunted set that does this:


And an Ultimate that does this:



*Slow Clap*

I died a little inside after looking at these pictures.

As if tanks are not hard enough to kill as it is, and not only they are tanky as heck, they can also throw a mean punch I mean c'mon... We had Elder Robes Online, then Elder Hundings Rage Online, now it's Elder Steel Online, you think it will do a full circle soon?

Potentially with update 13. Btw imagine that 5 piece with the master's sword. Yeah.

newtinmpls

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

This is a mistake. and by that I mean a POOR choice on ZoS' part.

Go back to Morrowind....simple fungal diversity is not good; what is good is that it's LOGICAL to find certain mushrooms in certain areas.

I'm so tired of finding things native to AD in DC and so on.

NBrookus

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Thelon wrote: »

So a few potatoes RP-walk up to ZOS and ask for a wider fungal variety in ESO. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Updated many mushrooms throughout early zones to create a greater degree of fungal diversity.

The PvP community provides a plethora of feedback showing how the weapon ultimates further the embarrassing divide between stamina and magicka. ZOS be like:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

It's unlikely we'll be making any additional changes to the Weapon Ultimates

Meanwhile, Wrobel be like:

Heavy armored builds are currently the meta for PvP. What does ZOS do?

Provides an armor set that does this:


Provides an Undaunted set that does this:


And an Ultimate that does this:



*Slow Clap*

Stamina only need apply.

STEVIL

@Thelon

First, i think the devs handling mushroom diversity aren't the same folks who do ultimate pvp pve balance issues. based on what we have seen of their structure and reasonable setup - these two events are not in competition for each other. Might as well be juxtaposing them paying a secretary or janitor.

Second, there were changes to the ultimates, some of them if not all, from the various patches. they may not have been all that were asked for but the note they just posted about there being no more changes to ults kinda looks like from the way you presented it that they never made any changes in response to playtest results.

NOTE: Not that this means i am thrilled happy kitty warm kitty over the new ults...

Mojmir

#priorities

Aetherderius

Making diverse mushrooms show up is probably far simpler than getting multiple people in to create new and alter old skills.

There's been a lot of work put into the One Tamriel update, so something small that appeases part of the playerbase, like different spawning mushrooms, is good. Hardcore PvPers complaining is not good.

Infinite12

DHale wrote: »

I just don't see why they divert people and resources to fix things that don't need fixed or nerf things that don't need nerfed? #perplexed.

Lol what do they fix? It seriously looks like every single zenimax employee is diverted to creating mounts.

NoMoreChillies

Is this another PVP QQ thread?

Please post in the correct forum.

Thelon

Aetherderius wrote: »

Hardcore PvPers complaining is not good.

I'm a scrub

KingYogi415

#mushroomgate2016

altemriel

ok, so can anyone confirm me, if the mushrooms got only reskinned, or if ZOS has added more varieties of mushrooms to the game?

I agree that balance is needed, but this got my attention too.

Asardes

Birdovic wrote: »

Tamriel One is more of a "Profit-Update" than anything else.

First, there is the absurd Crown Crates Stuff,
secondly we also have only BoP now in dungeons ("buy our dungeon dlc's!!!")

Edit:
Third, its aimed at luring in new players to make as much use of both aforementioned points as much as possible.

When were DLC dungeon sets BoE? Things like SPC and SM were always BoP so the only way to get them has always been accessing the DLC. Furthermore, some of the DLC only sets like Jolting Arms and Combat Physician were moved from DLC dungeons into base game dungeons. So now everyone can get them. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3315974/#Comment_3315974

Enodoc

altemriel wrote: »

ok, so can anyone confirm me, if the mushrooms got only reskinned, or if ZOS has added more varieties of mushrooms to the game?

Neither. They look the same and there are no new mushrooms. What they have done is changed which mushrooms appear where. For example, an area that only had Blue Entoloma and Emetic Russula may now also have Namira's Rot and Stinkhorn.

Changing the loot table for a mushroom node is considerably lower risk than changing a bunch of skills. Even if the Weapon Ultimate have a higher priority, their higher risk means that they will not change them drastically this close to launch.

bebynnag

altemriel wrote: »

ok, so can anyone confirm me, if the mushrooms got only reskinned, or if ZOS has added more varieties of mushrooms to the game?

I agree that balance is needed, but this got my attention too.

i did reply & tag you in it, there are no new mushrooms, all existing mushrooms will now be foragable in all areas.