If Stamina versions of the classes could have 3 nerfs, what nerfs would they be? Opinions...

Solus

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Reduce evasion chance to %5 on Evasion and all of it's morphs.

Move dodge rolling, blocking, and breaking free to another bar.

Reduce the damage on all of their abilities by %40.

Discuss!

Following this trend:

- When OP sees a stamina based player they lose the ability to move, they can no longer do damage effectively, their screen goes black and their computer fries, their house blows up and they no longer exist.

OP 1, stamina builds 0

FearlessOne_2014

Solus wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Reduce evasion chance to %5 on Evasion and all of it's morphs.

Move dodge rolling, blocking, and breaking free to another bar.

Reduce the damage on all of their abilities by %40.

Discuss!

Following this trend:

- When OP sees a stamina based player they lose the ability to move, they can no longer do damage effectively, their screen goes black and their computer fries, their house blows up and they no longer exist.

OP 1, stamina builds 0

Lol I forgot about this thread. Actually not so much. I no longer even have ESO installed on my computer. I think I uninstalled ESO 2 days after Update 12. So it's actual OP 0, stamina builds 1.

And before you even ask why I come to the forums. I just mostly read every week to see if it even worth putting forth the effort to reinstall ESO back on to my computer. From the sounds of things stamina builds got way more powerful while magick builds got nothing. So no sense for me to even reinstall the game.

Solus

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Solus wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Reduce evasion chance to %5 on Evasion and all of it's morphs.

Move dodge rolling, blocking, and breaking free to another bar.

Reduce the damage on all of their abilities by %40.

Discuss!

Following this trend:

- When OP sees a stamina based player they lose the ability to move, they can no longer do damage effectively, their screen goes black and their computer fries, their house blows up and they no longer exist.

OP 1, stamina builds 0

Lol I forgot about this thread. Actually not so much. I no longer even have ESO installed on my computer. I think I uninstalled ESO 2 days after Update 12. So it's actual OP 0, stamina builds 1.

And before you even ask why I come to the forums. I just mostly read every week to see if it even worth putting forth the effort to reinstall ESO back on to my computer. From the sounds of things stamina builds got way more powerful while magick builds got nothing. So no sense for me to even reinstall the game.

I like the One Tam update, personally. Sure PVP needs some love, stacking proc sets can be frustrating. But i dont think its worth uninstalling.

Thats just my opinion

KoreanAwtamatic

Buff magicka damage. Let our monster sets have a tooltip for 12k and then take out lingering health pots. Procs need to be adjusted whether it's the chance or damage on the 5 piece sets. Viper should only proc on light and heavy attacks.

Edziu

Slickst3r wrote: »

Buff magicka damage. Let our monster sets have a tooltip for 12k and then take out lingering health pots. Procs need to be adjusted whether it's the chance or damage on the 5 piece sets. Viper should only proc on light and heavy attacks.

no, for what? this is to bad way...now as stamina cancer build you need to spam ony 1 skill to proc 3 sets what is a *** joke, not a playing, no any skill, those seta what are now need to go because need can be useless unskilled *** and kill everything around in pvp this those cancer proc builds, do you want more cancer from additional magica builds? I dont think, better will be just now those stamina proc sets to not destroy more pvp

Solus

Edziu wrote: »

Slickst3r wrote: »

Buff magicka damage. Let our monster sets have a tooltip for 12k and then take out lingering health pots. Procs need to be adjusted whether it's the chance or damage on the 5 piece sets. Viper should only proc on light and heavy attacks.

no, for what? this is to bad way...now as stamina cancer build you need to spam ony 1 skill to proc 3 sets what is a *** joke, not a playing, no any skill, those seta what are now need to go because need can be useless unskilled *** and kill everything around in pvp this those cancer proc builds, do you want more cancer from additional magica builds? I dont think, better will be just now those stamina proc sets to not destroy more pvp

Thats not entirely true. The only one that procs 100% of the time is viper. tremorscale only procs when you taunt an enemy, which is only a 50% chance, and widowmaker only procs when poison procs, which is 20% of the time and has a 10 second cool down

You guys think it works 100% of the time, and it doesnt.

The_Protagonist

Wow, I never knew that PvP would build so much hate in players and their builds.

If anyone feels that something is really unbalanced, then present your claims with evidence, to get the attention of Devs, otherwise it looks nothing more than a rant, which is not constructive.

Not presenting evidence may give the reader an opinion that the ranters are not very skilled at playing the game.

This forum is as useful as we make it to be, we must not come here to vent of frustration and make seemingly absurd and unsupported observations/requests.

I am all up for development and changes, but only if those things come with proper logical/mathematical evidence.

I do appreciate the OP's frankness of presenting his thoughts here, adding precise logical/mathematical reasoning to support the requests would add value to everyone who is reading this thread. That's just my humble opinion.

I would like to apologize in advance if anyone feels annoyed by my reply.

Solus

unhander_2 wrote: »

Wow, I never knew that PvP would build so much hate in players and their builds.

If anyone feels that something is really unbalanced, then present your claims with evidence, to get the attention of Devs, otherwise it looks nothing more than a rant, which is not constructive.

Not presenting evidence may give the reader an opinion that the ranters are not very skilled at playing the game.

This forum is as useful as we make it to be, we must not come here to vent of frustration and make seemingly absurd and unsupported observations/requests.

I am all up for development and changes, but only if those things come with proper logical/mathematical evidence.

I do appreciate the OP's frankness of presenting his thoughts here, adding precise logical/mathematical reasoning to support the requests would add value to everyone who is reading this thread. That's just my humble opinion.

I would like to apologize in advance if anyone feels annoyed by my reply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3IdgssMwo

The_Protagonist

Solus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3IdgssMwo

After watching the video I can see that the guy is very skilled at using class abilities for damage dealing (along with perfect weaving/animation cancelling) and evading, and has selected the best sets for his play style.

I can understand that its not the class abilities, but how the sets proc that is causing the sudden deaths. Lots of fun for the dealer and quite infuriating for the receiver.

The monster sets are found in all weights (viz. Light/Med/Heavy), so it should not be a problem for magica builds to use them too. Agreed that there aren't as many proc sets in light as in Medium, but that's all in flavor of Medium is high crit and weapon damage especially with melee, (bow is still not optimized, just my opinion), light is more towards healing, buff/de-buff and ranged spells.

ZOS can work on some sets (light/medium/heavy) to have certain bonus defenses against the monster set procs. But I am sure that before that happens some of will find a way to counter procs if we try hard enough.

In my opinion, One Tamriel has introduced a new play style that many of us will need to get used to, before we start enjoying it, its a learning curve that will surely make us better as we master the new mechanics. There was a time I felt that the sorc was OP and even made an alt to experience it, I realized that it was not OP but that the players were very skilled at using class abilities effectively.

My two cents.