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The Golden One and One Tamriel
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Wondering if more "active" things are on their way into the game to obtain certain items for PvP oriented players?!
Don't get me wrong, The Golden One, was an awesome addition.. but it has one issue.. it's rather 'passive' content and there's also no way to 'invest' more effort to obtain what you're after faster. ie. dungeon runners can run a dungeon all day, every day until they get their item.. whereas a PvP oriented player just has to 'wait' a week to see if the item is on the vendor, if not, wait another week and another. Nothing to speed up the process or to do something 'active' to help the process along.
And sure.. even the PvE player that grinds the dungeon 24/7 might not get what he wants any time soon (RNGesus), but at least you get the impression you're doing something about it. With the Golden One, you don't have this.
This is especially important with the new focus on making everything BoP.. some people just don't like dungeon grinds.. same as some people don't like IC grinds to get the Tel Var items... so this "request" is just as valid for a PvE player that doesn't like/want to do PvP and is after a gear set from a PvP vendor.
"Play the way you like to play" .. awesome moto for the game, which I admire and wish would be upheld also after One Tamriel hits, but I fear more and more changes are threatening this moto.
The current response to BoP questions is always, we want you to play the content... people want to play content, but might not want / enjoy the specific content where the item is obtainable.
Don't get me wrong, The Golden One, was an awesome addition.. but it has one issue.. it's rather 'passive' content and there's also no way to 'invest' more effort to obtain what you're after faster. ie. dungeon runners can run a dungeon all day, every day until they get their item.. whereas a PvP oriented player just has to 'wait' a week to see if the item is on the vendor, if not, wait another week and another. Nothing to speed up the process or to do something 'active' to help the process along.
And sure.. even the PvE player that grinds the dungeon 24/7 might not get what he wants any time soon (RNGesus), but at least you get the impression you're doing something about it. With the Golden One, you don't have this.
This is especially important with the new focus on making everything BoP.. some people just don't like dungeon grinds.. same as some people don't like IC grinds to get the Tel Var items... so this "request" is just as valid for a PvE player that doesn't like/want to do PvP and is after a gear set from a PvP vendor.
"Play the way you like to play" .. awesome moto for the game, which I admire and wish would be upheld also after One Tamriel hits, but I fear more and more changes are threatening this moto.
The current response to BoP questions is always, we want you to play the content... people want to play content, but might not want / enjoy the specific content where the item is obtainable.
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Nirnrotten✭✭✭I see where you're coming from but unfortunately I do not sympathize. Having played my fair share of mmorpg I can say that ZOS has done a far better job than many other games in providing gear rewards and options for PvP players. I mean you guys can get a Molag Kena without ever setting foot into VWGT. I understand that it changes every week but the fact that an item like that is even available from a PvP vendor at all is cool.
"Play the way you like to play" is more akin to "wear any armor and any weapon" than it is to "play PvP all day and get any gear in game". I know that ZOS will continue to add items for PvP and give players incentives to spend their ap. We just have to keep patient.1 -
NACtron✭✭✭✭✭There will be something like 30 monster sets in the game after this upcoming patch. The odds of you getting the helm or shoulder you want are going to be around 1/60 chance.
Also considering the golden one is random and does not cycle through monster helms you also have a good chance she will repeat the same items before she gets to the one you want. For example spawn of Mephala several weeks in a row but we have gotten Molag Kena once or twice.
The Golden One will be almost useless in a couple weeks.Edited by NACtron on September 24, 2016 3:38PMPact Militia GM
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✭Nirnrotten wrote: »I see where you're coming from but unfortunately I do not sympathize. Having played my fair share of mmorpg I can say that ZOS has done a far better job than many other games in providing gear rewards and options for PvP players. I mean you guys can get a Molag Kena without ever setting foot into VWGT. I understand that it changes every week but the fact that an item like that is even available from a PvP vendor at all is cool.
"Play the way you like to play" is more akin to "wear any armor and any weapon" than it is to "play PvP all day and get any gear in game". I know that ZOS will continue to add items for PvP and give players incentives to spend their ap. We just have to keep patient.
The only thing pve players have to pvp for is vigor... And that's like what... 1 day? Nor is it truly necessary. You can run pve content over and over to get the things you want, pvp for a month straight and likely still have maw or bogden drops in golden one vendor.Rhage Lionpride DC Stamina Templar
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✭✭✭✭The Golden One will be almost useless in a couple weeks.
Not really, considering that they stripped many of the gold jewelry drops away from PvErs and put them on the golden. The PvP vendor will be the only way to get much of gold jewelry that people currently farm ATM.
After loading all of the valuable gold jewelry drops onto the RNG PvP Vendor, they then smartly justified the decision by saying that they want people to actually have to do content to get the gear(Rich and Finn have both said this).
Edited by timidobserver on September 24, 2016 5:41PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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NACtron✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »The Golden One will be almost useless in a couple weeks.
Not really, considering that they stripped many of the gold jewelry drops away from PvErs and put them on the golden. The PvP vendor will be the only way to get much of gold jewelry that people currently farm ATM.
After loading all of the valuable gold jewelry drops onto the RNG PvP Vendor, they then smartly justified the decision by saying that they want people to actually have to do content to get the gear(Rich and Finn have both said this).
I did not hear of that change! I correct my statement on the golden being useless but still, I do not think it will be at viable for getting monster helms.Edited by NACtron on September 25, 2016 12:11AMPact Militia GM
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The crazy thing about it is that even the golden haven't sold Bodgan even she knows its complete trash.caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »Nirnrotten wrote: »I see where you're coming from but unfortunately I do not sympathize. Having played my fair share of mmorpg I can say that ZOS has done a far better job than many other games in providing gear rewards and options for PvP players. I mean you guys can get a Molag Kena without ever setting foot into VWGT. I understand that it changes every week but the fact that an item like that is even available from a PvP vendor at all is cool.
"Play the way you like to play" is more akin to "wear any armor and any weapon" than it is to "play PvP all day and get any gear in game". I know that ZOS will continue to add items for PvP and give players incentives to spend their ap. We just have to keep patient.
The only thing pve players have to pvp for is vigor... And that's like what... 1 day? Nor is it truly necessary. You can run pve content over and over to get the things you want, pvp for a month straight and likely still have maw or bogden drops in golden one vendor.Edited by Jaronking on September 24, 2016 10:47PM0