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Magika Sorc Amberplasm in PvP build?

  • Malamar1229
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    I main a mDK so I only play on my sorc when I'm fed up and need a break. Msorc feels so powerful after playing mDK. But I see everyone using seducer. Isn't this a mistake? Shouldn't I instead spec into offense? Msorc isn't good at sustained damage, so the spike damage needs to be high enough to actually burst people down. Seems like willpower+julianos/kags+2pc torugs+1 kena seems like a better setup.

    Can any expert msorcs weigh in?

    You can run that setup, but you will get quickly frustrated when your burst set up is negated with dodge roll and evasion and then you are at zero magicka for defense.

    you can get good burst on a sustain build if you wisely take advantage of prco'd frags and empower buff.

    Kags over Julianos IMO....before DB i mixed that set with willpower, 2pc Torugs pact, and 1pc Kena.

    I wanted better sustain after DB and went with Seducers.
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  • Minalan
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    Everyone went with seducers after DB.

    If someone at ZOS was smart, they might look at that and figure, 'Hey why is every Sorc running a cost reduction and sustain set just to compete? There might be a problem with Sorc magicka costs...'

    But they really aren't...
    Edited by Minalan on September 27, 2016 3:42PM
  • Swainburg
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    Minalan wrote: »
    I'm with Makkir. Seducer is almost a must have after dark brotherhood when some fool at ZOS idecided to increase our magicka costs by about 10% across the board.

    Mix seducer with some other DPS focus set with jewelry (elegance, arcane willpower, Cyrodiil light, grace of the ancients, etc) and it balances out. Sustain versus damage.

    Thats very valuable information, but the goal of this thread is also to determine whether I could get away with replacing seducer with amberplasm.

    After playing around in PvP with this a bit, I have had no problems sustaining. I'm at over 2000 recovery and 40,000 max magicka, but I need to actually finish the sets. I also need to complete my glyphs for spell power before I can send the rest of my stats.

    Im assuming I can sustain well enough witg this set up.
    Edited by Swainburg on September 27, 2016 5:32PM
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  • X3ina
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    My future build:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    2 Torug's Pact
    1 Molag Kena

    Why not:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    1 Molag Kena
    1 Bloodspawn
    1 Maelstrom Destro/Resto ???
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    After a brief period of Amberplasm, I've now switched back to Vicious Death. Im getting enough sustain from heavy attacking because I use Elegant. It might only be temporary and I may change back as it is such a good set but so is an Elegant Lightning Staff, Mages Wrath and Vicious Death. Poof!

    For solo PvP I would recommend Amberplasm.

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  • WillhelmBlack
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    After a brief period of Amberplasm, I've now switched back to Vicious Death. Im getting enough sustain from heavy attacking because I use Elegant. It might only be temporary and I may change back as it is such a good set but so is an Elegant Lightning Staff, Mages Wrath and Vicious Death. Poof!

    For solo PvP I would recommend Amberplasm.

    High Council of The Black.(EU/DC PvE & PvP Guild).
  • Minalan
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    X3ina wrote: »
    My future build:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    2 Torug's Pact
    1 Molag Kena

    Why not:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    1 Molag Kena
    1 Bloodspawn
    1 Maelstrom Destro/Resto ???

    Try amberplasm and the new five piece set that grants 4K more armor penetration.

    Or 5 Amber, 3 Willpower, 2 Magnus, and one of the new max magicka monster set pieces.
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Minalan wrote: »
    X3ina wrote: »
    My future build:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    2 Torug's Pact
    1 Molag Kena

    Why not:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    1 Molag Kena
    1 Bloodspawn
    1 Maelstrom Destro/Resto ???

    Try amberplasm and the new five piece set that grants 4K more armor penetration.

    That's my next build, definitely. Hopefully I'll find impenetrable pieces.
    Edited by WillhelmBlack on September 27, 2016 6:07PM

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  • Swainburg
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    The only problem with 5 amber and 5 crafted set is I need all the jewelry... Ugh the dungeon takes so long and amberplasm hardly drops.
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  • Swainburg
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    After a brief period of Amberplasm, I've now switched back to Vicious Death. Im getting enough sustain from heavy attacking because I use Elegant. It might only be temporary and I may change back as it is such a good set but so is an Elegant Lightning Staff, Mages Wrath and Vicious Death. Poof!

    For solo PvP I would recommend Amberplasm.

    Nice dude. How fast can you kill ppl with that setup?

    And I was bitten by the solo pvp bug long ago. Nothing else can sate the thirst for the kill :wink:
    Edited by Swainburg on September 27, 2016 6:20PM
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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Minalan wrote: »
    X3ina wrote: »
    My future build:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    2 Torug's Pact
    1 Molag Kena

    Why not:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    1 Molag Kena
    1 Bloodspawn
    1 Maelstrom Destro/Resto ???

    Try amberplasm and the new five piece set that grants 4K more armor penetration.

    Or 5 Amber, 3 Willpower, 2 Magnus, and one of the new max magicka monster set pieces.

    That's my next build, definitely. Hopefully I'll find impenetrable pieces.
    Swainburg wrote: »
    After a brief period of Amberplasm, I've now switched back to Vicious Death. Im getting enough sustain from heavy attacking because I use Elegant. It might only be temporary and I may change back as it is such a good set but so is an Elegant Lightning Staff, Mages Wrath and Vicious Death. Poof!

    For solo PvP I would recommend Amberplasm.

    Nice dude. How fast can you kill ppl with that setup?

    And I was bitten by the solo pvp bug long ago. Nothing else can sate the thirst for the kill :wink:

    Same as any other mag Sorc build. Amberplasm has great 4 pc bonuses and no one escapes the Elegant lightning staff. I bet a few players are surprised how much you can dodge roll too.

    Next update I'll be running 5 Spinners Robe set on Destro, 5 Amberplasm on Resto bar where streak is and 2 pc of new monster set.

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  • SkylarkX
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    Could go for:
    5 Amberplasm
    5 Julianos/Kagrenacs
    1 Molag Kena/Maelstrom


    Minalan wrote: »
    X3ina wrote: »
    My future build:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    2 Torug's Pact
    1 Molag Kena

    Why not:

    5 Amberplasm
    3 Willpower
    1 Molag Kena
    1 Bloodspawn
    1 Maelstrom Destro/Resto ???

    Try amberplasm and the new five piece set that grants 4K more armor penetration.

    Or 5 Amber, 3 Willpower, 2 Magnus, and one of the new max magicka monster set pieces.

    That set only give physical penetration, won't be much use for spell damage
    Edited by SkylarkX on September 28, 2016 10:16AM
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  • BuggeX
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    while we are at it, are there amberplasm shields?

    and if yes does they also just drop from Xal-Nur? or a earlyer boss to?

    im running that *** dungeon solo on normal to farm my last pices but meh, rng sux, amberplasm battle axe and ***.

    and i want to farm thes before the stupid "smart loot" kicks in
    Edited by BuggeX on September 28, 2016 12:51PM
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  • Swainburg
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    while we are at it, are there amberplasm shields?

    and if yes does they also just drop from Xal-Nur? or a earlyer boss to?

    im running that *** dungeon solo on normal to farm my last pices but meh, rng sux, amberplasm battle axe and ***.

    and i want to farm thes before the stupid "smart loot" kicks in

    Next patch there will be shields. Aren't all sets supposed to drop in all pieces?
    Edited by Swainburg on September 28, 2016 1:42PM
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  • BuggeX
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    Swainburg wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    while we are at it, are there amberplasm shields?

    and if yes does they also just drop from Xal-Nur? or a earlyer boss to?

    im running that *** dungeon solo on normal to farm my last pices but meh, rng sux, amberplasm battle axe and ***.

    and i want to farm thes before the stupid "smart loot" kicks in

    Next patch there will be shields. Aren't all sets supposed to drop in all pieces?

    so right now there are not shilds? :o
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    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • Swainburg
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Swainburg wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    while we are at it, are there amberplasm shields?

    and if yes does they also just drop from Xal-Nur? or a earlyer boss to?

    im running that *** dungeon solo on normal to farm my last pices but meh, rng sux, amberplasm battle axe and ***.

    and i want to farm thes before the stupid "smart loot" kicks in

    Next patch there will be shields. Aren't all sets supposed to drop in all pieces?

    so right now there are not shilds? :o

    I can't tell you for sure, but I know I haven't gotten one before either. But they are guaranteed next patch.
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  • Brrrofski
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    I thought about using this on a magica sorc when the dlc dropped. Ended up leveling up other things so forgot about it. Looking to revisit it though.

    Why is nobody here mentioning julianos with it? Would julianos, amberplasm and 1 kena not give more damage then 5 amberplasm, 3 willpower, 2 torug's and 1 kena? It's 8;30 am here so too early for maths.

    Julianos would give more crit but I guess they there way fives you the same spell damage but more magcia right?

    Please tell me julianos would be better. I have 3 amberplasm jewellery and 2 body pieces (shoulder and head). Don't make me farm 5 body pieces :(. Plus they don't come in impen right?
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  • Swainburg
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I thought about using this on a magica sorc when the dlc dropped. Ended up leveling up other things so forgot about it. Looking to revisit it though.

    Why is nobody here mentioning julianos with it? Would julianos, amberplasm and 1 kena not give more damage then 5 amberplasm, 3 willpower, 2 torug's and 1 kena? It's 8;30 am here so too early for maths.

    Julianos would give more crit but I guess they there way fives you the same spell damage but more magcia right?

    Please tell me julianos would be better. I have 3 amberplasm jewellery and 2 body pieces (shoulder and head). Don't make me farm 5 body pieces :(. Plus they don't come in impen right?

    You are correct, amberplasm doesn't come in impen... Yet. I think when I did some math, I got like 1000-2000 more max magicka from willpower, and decided that I really wanted to wear engine guardian. The other reason I ruled out julianos is the fact that it adds crit and with all the impen in pvp I don't think it adds much damage. You're right on weapon damage... Around 200-300 more, but somewhat less sustain.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Swainburg wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    I thought about using this on a magica sorc when the dlc dropped. Ended up leveling up other things so forgot about it. Looking to revisit it though.

    Why is nobody here mentioning julianos with it? Would julianos, amberplasm and 1 kena not give more damage then 5 amberplasm, 3 willpower, 2 torug's and 1 kena? It's 8;30 am here so too early for maths.

    Julianos would give more crit but I guess they there way fives you the same spell damage but more magcia right?

    Please tell me julianos would be better. I have 3 amberplasm jewellery and 2 body pieces (shoulder and head). Don't make me farm 5 body pieces :(. Plus they don't come in impen right?

    You are correct, amberplasm doesn't come in impen... Yet. I think when I did some math, I got like 1000-2000 more max magicka from willpower, and decided that I really wanted to wear engine guardian. The other reason I ruled out julianos is the fact that it adds crit and with all the impen in pvp I don't think it adds much damage. You're right on weapon damage... Around 200-300 more, but somewhat less sustain.

    So you'd only have 3 impen bits - 2 torug's and 1 kena. Willpower rings and staves, amberplasm 4 body and necklace. Suppose that'd be alright considering you'l mostly have your shield up.
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