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How many crowns would you pay for a retrait stone?
caperon
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Lets imagine ZOS provides a way to retrait gear in the crown store. How much would you be willing to pay for each item to retrait?
Would it destroy the fun of the game? MMO players are a strange breed sometimes, we are lost without a carrot...
Edited by caperon on September 15, 2016 4:39PM Would it destroy the fun of the game? MMO players are a strange breed sometimes, we are lost without a carrot...
How many crowns would you pay for a retrait stone? 213 votes
0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gear
20%
43 votes
0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!
54%
117 votes
1000 Crowns or less - It would be useful
14%
31 votes
5000 Crowns or less - I'm tired of grinding
3%
8 votes
+ 5000 Crowns - Shut up ZOS and take my money!
6%
14 votes
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearI wouldn't pay anything. Master crafters should be able to re-trait for free.
Jahsul at-Sahan - Redguard Sorcerer (Stamina - Werewolf) Free Bites - PVP Main
Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen - Altmer Templar (Magicka) Master Angler - PVE Main
Derrok Gunnolf - Redguard Dragonknight (Stamina - Werewolf) Free Bites
Liliana Littleleaf - 9-Trait Grand Master Crafter/Jeweler (non-combat)
Amber Emberheart - Breton Dragonknight (Stamina) Master Angler
Vlos Anon - Dunmer Nightblade (Magicka - Vampire) Free Bites
Kalina Valos - Dunmer Warden (Magicka - Vampire) Free Bites
Swiftpaws-Moonshadow - Khajiit Nightblade (Stamina)
Tithin Geil - Altmer Sorceress (Magicka)
Dhryk - Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
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0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I wouldn't pay anything. Master crafters should be able to re-trait for free.
Exactly. At Lvl 50 you should be able to do it yourself. Maybe by using crafting material or something else that the player can get by just playing the game (and that she/he could sell to other players ) -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭1000 Crowns or less - It would be useful$10 is very fair!Don't tank
"In future content we will probably adjust this model somewhat (The BOP model). It's definitely nice to be able to find a cool item that you don't need and trade it to someone who can't wait to get their hands on it." - Wrobel -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearJust like Enemy said, a master crafter should be able to retrait gear. They should just make it cost like 3-4 more trait stones to retrait.Aldmeri Dominion
Althrimir- High Elf Sorcerer
Daemog gro-Khazgur- Orc DK
Haunted Luigi Board- Imperial Stamblade
Maharic Laveash- High Elf Warden
Pawlthrimir- Khajiit Sorc tank
Jormiskr- Nord Stamcro
Ebonheart Pact
Sidariath Perthro- High Elf Necromancer
Althrimir Vorsaris- High Elf Magsorc Former Emp
Althreeza- Argonian Templar
Alvika Ice-Wolf- Breton Magden
Should Follow Meta- Nord Tankcro
Daggerfall Covenant
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0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearI would be fine with ZOS adding something like that to the Crown Store, but I wouldn't personally buy it.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!That's kinda stupid. Sorry.
If anything it could be a crafting option costing X amount of mats after so many traits are learned.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!That would be a stupid system.. more cash/crowns securing you better gear.? No..What I say is MY opinion and MY pov -
Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!How about a skin that gives +5000 health/mag/stam stat and a hat that gives 250 health/mag/stam recovery and an appearance that gives 10k physical and spell resistance?
I mean if we are going to go pay to win, may as well not try to sugar coat it.
I agree in being able to change traits, but crownstore is not acceptable. There are things in game I personally consider to be close to crossing the line into p2w, let's not cross that line.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
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Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I wouldn't pay anything. Master crafters should be able to re-trait for free.
Master crafters should be able to re-trait even non-crafteable gear?SERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes
TOTAL CHARACTERS: 13 | MAINS: Magicka and Stamina Dragonknights | CHAMPION POINTS: 1560+ -
clayandaudrey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearI will continue pushing this.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/285999/should-traits-work-like-sockets#latest -
Myerscod✭✭✭0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearEnemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I wouldn't pay anything. Master crafters should be able to re-trait for free.
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - I prefer earn my gearEnemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I wouldn't pay anything. Master crafters should be able to re-trait for free.
Master crafters should be able to re-trait even non-crafteable gear?
Yes. But it should be conditional. For example, you want to change the trait on a non-craftable sword then you would be required to know all nine traits for swords.
Jahsul at-Sahan - Redguard Sorcerer (Stamina - Werewolf) Free Bites - PVP Main
Silivren (Silly) Thalionwen - Altmer Templar (Magicka) Master Angler - PVE Main
Derrok Gunnolf - Redguard Dragonknight (Stamina - Werewolf) Free Bites
Liliana Littleleaf - 9-Trait Grand Master Crafter/Jeweler (non-combat)
Amber Emberheart - Breton Dragonknight (Stamina) Master Angler
Vlos Anon - Dunmer Nightblade (Magicka - Vampire) Free Bites
Kalina Valos - Dunmer Warden (Magicka - Vampire) Free Bites
Swiftpaws-Moonshadow - Khajiit Nightblade (Stamina)
Tithin Geil - Altmer Sorceress (Magicka)
Dhryk - Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Guild Master - ESO Traders Union
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!I would vote against master crafters being able to change the trait on dropped loot.. Craftable only..What I say is MY opinion and MY pov -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Master crafters re-traiting non-crafteable gear/weapons? I don't think ZOS would want to destroy a big part of their RNG system. ;-)Edited by Dragonnord on September 15, 2016 6:23PMSERVER: NA | PLATFORM: PC | OS: Windows 10 | CLIENT: Steam | ESO PLUS: Yes
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Pinja✭✭✭✭+ 5000 Crowns - Shut up ZOS and take my money!If someone's this desperate for a trait might as well.. Up the price to 10000 crowns per reroll for a 1 in 9 chance at a trait. (Including the same1) Give each item 1/3 reroll max & make some money from everyone willing to pay the price.
Increase Pinja's payroll, improve the servers, & expand the budget for the Dual Wand concept.Edited by Pinja on September 15, 2016 6:25PM -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!Re-trait should be base game. It should require effort and expense, but should be available in the base crafting system. -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!Re-trait should be base game. It should require effort and expense, but should be available in the base crafting system.
That would remove a huge part of the RNG/grind system, having the effect of making the game seem much shorterWhat I say is MY opinion and MY pov -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!Adding retraiting as a pay service would result in ZoS having no interest in ever balancing traits and going further out of their way to create "better" traits so that we'd be forced to the crown store to fix insane RNG built into the game for just that purpose. I'd quit on principle if that ever happened.
If they want to add retraiting, do it as an ingame system. If it has anything to do with the crown store it would be in their best interest to build in artificial barriers that you circumvent with real money. To me, that's pay to win. -
Browiseth✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!I'm against the idea purely on principle
but i'd pay no more than 500i stream eso here
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morrowind is not a good game but the expansion will probably be okay nvm lol
subjectivity is implied
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- EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian sorc healer - lvl 50
- EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian magcro - lvl 50 (meh)
- EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc stamdk - lvl 50 (Inspired by Sinh the Slumbering Dragon from Dark Souls 2)
- EP - M - Star-of-Arcane - Argonian magplar - lvl 15
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phaseadept✭✭✭1000 Crowns or less - It would be usefulMost games these days allow a re-roll of traits.
Just use that system. Each roll costs consecutively more.
I'm tired of getting prosperous monster helms -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!IF this was to come, then scrap the 5K crown joke.. Make it the minimum price
Edit: should only work on your own gear tooEdited by Daemons_Bane on September 15, 2016 7:05PMWhat I say is MY opinion and MY pov -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭0 Crowns - Are you cray? This makes the game pay to win!If you can choose whatever trait you -want- to get, then I'd pay 10 bucks -at most-. That said, I shouldn't need to pay crap for more RNG.
