Dragon knight tank

Mac10murda

Looking for some help with getting my redguard Stam Dragon knight geared up , would like to use mostly crafted sets don't wanna spend a ton of gold

svaboss

hi, the Hist bark set is always a good starter set for tanks. the rest 4 slots take Armor master or Twice born star. but i would recommend you get the Footman set with jewelry. you can find the pieces really cheap now in guild stores even the purple jewelry. and as a tank you can really go for dungeons in purple gear, no need to spend the money on Alloys till you get the feeling what you really like and want. once you get the first set go and run vet Spindle a few times for the monster helm and do your pledges every day for the Bloodspawn monster helm set. The set is like the Footman set, really good for DK tanks. so you have one crafted set one cheap set from guild store and one easy to farm monster helm set. you can also farm the Footman in normal Dragon star arena, but you need to pray to the RNG god to get the right items and trait you want so guild store it is.

Daemons_Bane

I asked the same question some time ago the nice folks in here gave me some good advice..

Link: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/281950/pve-tanking-need-some-help#latest

Woeler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upYhwqV8tvA

clocksstoppe

1. Get a ton of stamina
2. Get a ton of health
3. Get engine guardian set
4. Taunt boss
5. Hold block
6. ???
7. profit

MaxwellC

@Mac10murda
I have a tank and so far the armor cost for it isn't a lot since Ebon armory isn't that expensive anymore at-least the base armor not the shield/weapons/jewelry.

I run 5 piece Ebon, 1 piece mighty chudan and 5 piece footmans (shield and jewelry) and use the weapon slot for my maelstrom weapon. This all in all gives me amazing self sustain since I'm not eating into my stamina consistently + the maelstrom weapon gives back a lot of stamina when using a heavy attack.

Woeler

clocksstoppe wrote: »

1. Get a ton of stamina
2. Get a ton of health
3. Get engine guardian set
4. Taunt boss
5. Hold block
6. ???
7. profit

Please stop telling people to use that [snip] set, thanks.

[edited for profanity masking]

Mac10murda

Reinforced on large pieces and sturdy on small?

Woeler

Mac10murda wrote: »

Reinforced on large pieces and sturdy on small?

Infused/sturdy

Shader_Shibes

clocksstoppe wrote: »

1. Get a ton of stamina
2. Get a ton of health
3. Get engine guardian set
4. Taunt boss
5. Hold block
6. ???
7. profit

Not gonna get many EG procs if all you do is taunt, not that you should wear that anyyway.

biovitalb16_ESO

Why do so many people think EG is good on DK tanks? It's awful and so unnecessary.

Doctordarkspawn

All the hate on the engine guardian set. [snip]
The common response to engine guardian is "If you have sustain issues your build needs looked at"
And yet every stam DPS on the planet gets a pass. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Woeler

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

All the hate on the engine guardian set.
The common response to engine guardian is "If you have sustain issues your build needs looked at"
And yet every stam DPS on the planet gets a pass.

Because you're a tank and not a DD. YOU ARE THE SUSTAINER, you are the one casting orbs to sustain your damage dealers, you are the one who can turn magicka into stamina, you are the one increasing resource pools with horns. Yes, if you have resource problems as a DK tank you have a problem, a playstyle problem. Engine guardian is not the answer. [snip]

[edited for bait]

Doctordarkspawn

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

All the hate on the engine guardian set.
The common response to engine guardian is "If you have sustain issues your build needs looked at"
And yet every stam DPS on the planet gets a pass.

Because you're a tank and not a DD. YOU ARE THE SUSTAINER, you are the one casting orbs to sustain your damage dealers, you are the one who can turn magicka into stamina, you are the one increasing resource pools with horns. Yes, if you have resource problems as a DK tank you have a problem, a playstyle problem. Engine guardian is not the answer.

...DK tanks cast orbs?

Shouldn't that be the healers job?

Eitherway, I'd rather the dude focus his time doing his job than supporting a broken team that needs to rethink their builds. #SustainMeta

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Woeler

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

...DK tanks cast orbs?

Shouldn't that be the healers job?

Eitherway, I'd rather the dude focus his time doing his job than supporting a broken team that needs to rethink their builds. #SustainMeta

[snip]

I'll just explain why tanks use orbs. Tanks using the blue ones and healers using the yellow ones gives double the synergies, double the reg. Yellow ones scale of allies in range, blue ones of enemies in range, meaning an unlimited pool of magicka for everyone.

Don't want more sucky tanks in this game who think their job is taunting and blocking.

[edited for baiting]

Woeler

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Because you're a tank and not a DD. YOU ARE THE SUSTAINER, you are the one casting orbs to sustain your damage dealers, you are the one who can turn magicka into stamina, you are the one increasing resource pools with horns. Yes, if you have resource problems as a DK tank you have a problem, a playstyle problem. Engine guardian is not the answer.

...DK tanks cast orbs?

Shouldn't that be the healers job?

Eitherway, I'd rather the dude focus his time doing his job than supporting a broken team that needs to rethink their builds. #SustainMeta

Demanding your DD's run a selfsustain build, thus doing way less damage just because you refuse to use some decent skills is not "a way to do it". That is called "getting carried".

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Doctordarkspawn

Woeler wrote: »

Demanding your DD's run a selfsustain build, thus doing way less damage just because you refuse to use some decent skills is not "a way to do it". That is called "getting carried".

Geting carried is having to have help to do your job. See every DPS that needs sustained on the face of the earth.

Eitherway. It's not going away just because you dont like it. [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Woeler

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Demanding your DD's run a selfsustain build, thus doing way less damage just because you refuse to use some decent skills is not "a way to do it". That is called "getting carried".

Geting carried is having to have help to do your job. See every DPS that needs sustained on the face of the earth.

That's actually called teamwork. I don't mind bad players, I mind [snip] giving bad advice.

[edited for baiting]

Doctordarkspawn

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

All the hate on the engine guardian set.

Dey see me rollin'. They hatin'.

By the way. The common response to engine guardian is "If you have sustain issues your build needs looked at"
And yet every stam DPS on the planet gets a pass. Yeeeeeeahright.

Because you're a tank and not a DD. YOU ARE THE SUSTAINER, you are the one casting orbs to sustain your damage dealers, you are the one who can turn magicka into stamina, you are the one increasing resource pools with horns. Yes, if you have resource problems as a DK tank you have a problem, a playstyle problem. Engine guardian is not the answer. Lol, some people...

...DK tanks cast orbs?

Shouldn't that be the healers job?

Eitherway, I'd rather the dude focus his time doing his job than supporting a broken team that needs to rethink their builds. #SustainMeta

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But you can stay delusional if you want, just don't spread it. Don't want more sucky tanks in this game who think their job is taunting and blocking.

Free forum for free speech.

Your way is not the only way of doing things. Deal. With. It.

Demanding your DD's run a selfsustain build, thus doing way less damage just because you refuse to use some decent skills is not "a way to do it". That is called "getting carried".

Geting carried is having to have help to do your job. See every DPS that needs sustained on the face of the earth.

That's actually called teamwork.

I'd rather every DPS pull 25-30 K DPS, be able to sustain themselves the entire time without my help, and for all the cogs in the machine to be able to do their jobs autonomously, than for us to gimp ourselves in order to support each other.

The more moving parts in a machine the greater chance for failure. Consistancy with DPS, consistancy with the tank, strengthens the team. But if the guy sustaining the DPS and doing his job goes down, well, suddenly everything goes to crap.

Taleof2Cities

I'm with @Woeler as the tank's job is to support the group with buffs ... but not forget to taunt every once in awhile.

OP didn't say PvE or PvP ... but yeah orbs are pretty helpful from a tank in end game PvE.

Doctordarkspawn

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Woeler wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

All the hate on the engine guardian set.

Dey see me rollin'. They hatin'.

By the way. The common response to engine guardian is "If you have sustain issues your build needs looked at"
And yet every stam DPS on the planet gets a pass. Yeeeeeeahright.

Because you're a tank and not a DD. YOU ARE THE SUSTAINER, you are the one casting orbs to sustain your damage dealers, you are the one who can turn magicka into stamina, you are the one increasing resource pools with horns. Yes, if you have resource problems as a DK tank you have a problem, a playstyle problem. Engine guardian is not the answer. Lol, some people...

...DK tanks cast orbs?

Shouldn't that be the healers job?

Eitherway, I'd rather the dude focus his time doing his job than supporting a broken team that needs to rethink their builds. #SustainMeta

L
2
P

But you can stay delusional if you want, just don't spread it. Don't want more sucky tanks in this game who think their job is taunting and blocking.

Free forum for free speech.

Your way is not the only way of doing things. Deal. With. It.

Demanding your DD's run a selfsustain build, thus doing way less damage just because you refuse to use some decent skills is not "a way to do it". That is called "getting carried".

Geting carried is having to have help to do your job. See every DPS that needs sustained on the face of the earth.

That's actually called teamwork.

I'd rather every DPS pull 25-30 K DPS, be able to sustain themselves the entire time without my help, and for all the cogs in the machine to be able to do their jobs autonomously, than for us to gimp ourselves in order to support each other.

The more moving parts in a machine the greater chance for failure. Consistancy with DPS, consistancy with the tank, strengthens the team. But if the guy sustaining the DPS and doing his job goes down, well, suddenly everything goes to crap.

Then don't fail at doing your job and there is no problem.

I dont. I'm pretty sure the majority do not either.

Doctordarkspawn

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

I'm with @Woeler as the tank's job is to support the group with buffs ... but not forget to taunt every once in awhile.

OP didn't say PvE or PvP ... but yeah orbs are pretty helpful from a tank in end game PvE.

Helpfull but by no means necessary. In fact most magicka DPS I see can sustain themselves on their own without breaking a sweat, with full bloody Kena for crying out loud. S"not that hard.

But if it's PVP advice the OP wants then yeah entirely different ballgame.

Woeler

Taunt, block, shield, heal, sustain, debuff. At your service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf1URTs9Gfw

Wifeaggro13

Woeler wrote: »

clocksstoppe wrote: »

1. Get a ton of stamina
2. Get a ton of health
3. Get engine guardian set
4. Taunt boss
5. Hold block
6. ???
7. profit

Please stop telling people to use that set, thanks.

LOL thank you the only monster set even worth a set for a tank is blood spawn. Better off just runing 2 5 piece armor sets and any other flavor if you can get footman jewelry even better

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Wifeaggro13

Woeler wrote: »

Taunt, block, shield, heal, sustain, debuff. At your service.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf1URTs9Gfw

you made a very detailed guide i thank you for it.

Mac10murda

I wouldn't mind bring him into cyrodil for a troll build

Maotti

I use Bloodspawn on my tank.

clocksstoppe

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

not that you should wear that anyyway.

why

Isellskooma

Mac10murda wrote: »

Looking for some help with getting my redguard Stam Dragon knight geared up , would like to use mostly crafted sets don't wanna spend a ton of gold

I don't know if you want a PvE or PvP tank but I'll give you a PvP tank. Run 5 Black Rose 5 Twins sisters 2 Malubeth. Run 4 inpen 4 sturdy with 2 reduce cost of blocking on jewelry 1 weapon dmg enchant. 100 into shadow ward in cp, then then the rest is up to you. Use vitality potions. This build will make you block forever without having to worry about resources. This is not my build BTW it's one of my friends so yea.

Tan9oSuccka

Why the hate on DK Engine Guardian? I think its a must have if you tank and actually do something other than poke one mook and stand there.

Mine procs all the time due to casting Igneous Shield, Razor caltrops and talons etc.

Trash mobs don't even touch the casters.

Asmael

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Why the hate on DK Engine Guardian? I think its a must have if you tank and actually do something other than poke one mook and stand there.

Mine procs all the time due to casting Igneous Shield, Razor caltrops and talons etc.

Trash mobs don't even touch the casters.

Unless you're holding block 24/7, there's absolutely no need for it.

Actually, even if you're actually holding block 24/7, you still don't need, natural mag recovery, combined with OK stamina pool and Igneous shield and ultimates already allows you to block as long as you want. In a lot of cases, you even have time for a heavy attack.

I've been rocking a grand maximum of 14k stamina (lulz), no Sturdy on armor and no block cost reduction, and can still tank pretty much everything (including vet manti). Engine guardian, even if it only gave stamina / magicka back, would not be required, and Bloodspawn allows you to keep a higher uptime on Warhorns, as it should be.