WHY Bind on Pick UP?

wolfie1.0.

So I am an newb when it comes to the forums. but there is one game mechanic that I just don't understand. Why is Bind on Pickup a thing? What is the deal with it? Looking at the sets that I have seen that are currently BOP they are decent sure but there are a lot better sets out there. So I am confused by it. I mean ZOS is selling monster Helms and shoulders in game. Why not just have everything be Bind on Equip?

Drummerx04

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

Trublz

Such a bad design. Takes a huge chunk of the trading community away... Wtf

NoRagret

Yup its absolutely terrible...

NoMoreChillies

please remove Bind on Pickup
nobody likes it

N0TPLAYER2

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

There's a lot of truth in this sadly.

Lolimsopro

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

Sounds like me.

Miss_Morphine

Because some sets you just need to earn.
Honestly, there's enough that's easy in this game.

A lot of end-game gear is locked behind bind on pick up so that if you want to use it, you need to have the skill to get it.
I would probably quit if you could suddenly sell Maelstrom weapons. It's a reward for your hard work, and advancement for your character. Sure, you'd be able to get gold for it, but gold is arguably easier to get and requires almost no skill to grind.

Now, I'm not for the RNG system as it is. The grind can be infinite, virtually never getting what you want - but that's a different issue for a different thread.

Humatiel

Miss_Morphine wrote: »

Because some sets you just need to earn.
Honestly, there's enough that's easy in this game.

A lot of end-game gear is locked behind bind on pick up so that if you want to use it, you need to have the skill to get it.
I would probably quit if you could suddenly sell Maelstrom weapons. It's a reward for your hard work, and advancement for your character. Sure, you'd be able to get gold for it, but gold is arguably easier to get and requires almost no skill to grind.

Now, I'm not for the RNG system as it is. The grind can be infinite, virtually never getting what you want - but that's a different issue for a different thread.

All of this would make sense if you couldn't get the items from normal mode.

Miss_Morphine

Humatiel wrote: »

All of this would make sense if you couldn't get the items from normal mode.

A lot of things aren't available in normal mode.
A lot of the things that are available in normal mode are much more common and better in quality in vet/hard.

Rex-Umbra

BOP is crap.

Arnorien16

N0TPLAYER2 wrote: »

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

There's a lot of truth in this sadly.

MMOs are this way really.

CherryCake

Hate it too...

EZgoin76

I understand why monster gear and Maelstrom weapons are BOP. The rest though, I don't see any reason for it.

ajwest927

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

please remove Bind on Pickup
nobody likes it

If they won't they should create an item to covert BOP to BOE

Bandit1215

ajwest927 wrote: »

NoMoreChillies wrote: »

please remove Bind on Pickup
nobody likes it

If they won't they should create an item to covert BOP to BOE

ZOS would make one use of the thing cost 1500 crowns

abelsgmx

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

So I am an newb when it comes to the forums. but there is one game mechanic that I just don't understand. Why is Bind on Pickup a thing? What is the deal with it? Looking at the sets that I have seen that are currently BOP they are decent sure but there are a lot better sets out there. So I am confused by it. I mean ZOS is selling monster Helms and shoulders in game. Why not just have everything be Bind on Equip?

To force people to run dungeons

xboxone1Q

They should remove it but we have elite *** bags on here. That's wants you to suffer than actually ENJOY ESO.

Pallmor

The short answer is that it's to keep you playing, instead of just buying everything from a trader and then being bored with nothing to work towards.

acw37162

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

The black helicopters are real.
Never buy a copy of catcher in the rye.
And these sublte marketing gimmicks have been replaced by cash cra... I'm sorry crown crate.
Why do they need to passively exploit their customers when they can do it actively and have people beg for more.

The answer;

Wizards Frist Rule .... Google it or better yet read the book.

If you want a really really really deep cut conspiracy theory; read 1984 then ask yourself what would happen if the government told you you could not have you cell phone (which metaphorically for those of you who missed it is the TV that spies on you in the book)

iam_slickone

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

lol, change from Magica to stamina. Next patch rolles around making magica stronger then stamina. RNG has defiantly come a long way (used to be a chance of a monster helm drop now its guaranteed on vet, plus trade-able ) i still want that scathing mag set for magic sorc though.

NewBlacksmurf

It brings ppl together to do content
That's a positive around it

Also if u have it, you earned it on your account at least

Volrion

Pallmor wrote: »

The short answer is that it's to keep you playing, instead of just buying everything from a trader and then being bored with nothing to work towards.

It's a shame. I'd still play just as much... Only difference is I'd be happily fighting in Cyrodiil instead of grinding boring dungeons which don't provide any challenge or excitement whatsoever.

idk

Trublz wrote: »

Such a bad design. Takes a huge chunk of the trading community away... Wtf

Yes. To much BoP. Some is ok but not such a large swath of the gear.

SanTii.92

Drummerx04 wrote: »

The simplest answer is to get you to play the content to get the sets you want. Otherwise you'd have a friend just get it for you.

The more devious answer is to subtly trick you into replaying otherwise shallow content on the slight chance that you will get the trait you want, and to make things better, the loot tables appear to be weighted in favor of unfavorable traits like prosperous and training to further force you to grind for your divines.... and while you are grinding you suddenly realize that you don't like constantly going back to town to sell your worthless crap, so you start to eye that merchant in the crown store. Perhaps you even buy the merchant and banker to facilitate your grinding experience. But then you realize that you don't have any repair kits to fix your armor and your merchant can't fix your gear, so you buy crown repair kits so you don't need to go back to town. And before you know it, you've found that ONE PIECE of armor to increase your damage by 0.5% and you learn that stamina is the new meta, so you reluctantly pull out your banker and deposit your scathing mage gear and buy a race change from the crown store because your breton with 7000 hours of grinding gameplay isn't a cat.

no trait is weighted man, stop being so paranoid.

Milvan

BOP is very important because otherwise the game can easily slip into some sort of P2W because of gold sellers online.

Do you want the gear? Get out there and farm it yourself. Much better then people buying gold online to buy what they want from the vendors.

Iselin

It's a throwback design to the days when people achieved things by actually doing them instead of just throwing their virtual or real world wallet at it... weird that we once played like that isn't it?

Strangely though, dungeon queues are faster now than they have been for years. But that's probably due to some other totally unrelated factor.