New Imperial passive

Holycannoli

Imperial Skills

Shield Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Diplomat.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your gold gained by 1%.

So from what is the increased gold actually gained? I'm assuming monster loot and chests but what about quests, selling to NPCs etc? 1% isn't exactly a lot so if the sources of that increase are limited it's really of no benefit is it?

UltimaJoe777

I'd say in general? Maybe? Possibly? I don't know...

Bars

lol wow 1% just delete it

imnotanother

My imperial isn't mad.

It's my gold and I want it now!

Bars

man that might upset the balance of the game

biovitalb16_ESO

How is this even going to work. A mob drops 23 gold...you get 1% extra so you get 23.23 gold? Stupid passive is stupid.

Valencer

Time to get rich.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

I_killed_Vivec

My two main characters are Imperial (1% extra gold, yay) and dunmer - 50% immunity to lava...

And I thought that the fire passive already gave me immunity to lava

UltimaJoe777

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

How is this even going to work. A mob drops 23 gold...you get 1% extra so you get 23.23 gold? Stupid passive is stupid.

Better than what Orcs got. My main is an Orc and has all 6 crafting skill lines maxed out. The inspiration increase does nothing for him so he got shafted entirely...

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

It's a thing. Even Imperials in Skyrim got more gold than other races.

Leon119

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

because in every ES title imperials had more gold gain.

still this is 1% prosperous buff for the race OP

Towerdragon

this thread is proof that people will complain about anything its a favor benefit

josefcifkaeb17_ESO

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

It's a thing. Even Imperials in Skyrim got more gold than other races.

At the time of Skyrim and other TES games it makes sense, imperials dominate Tamriel, but that's not true in ESO.

Garwulf

All a bit harsh. This is an excellent passive. I can imagine a brain trust of ZoSers sitting around a table in deep thought before this 1% gold was added to the Imperial passive which was then renamed Diplomat....

Acrolas

Imperial: 1,000,000 gold gained, 10,000 bonus gold gained incrementally.
"Eh, it's just 10,000 gold."

Breton: 1,000,000 AP gained, 10,000 bonus AP gained incrementally.
"OMG OP FML BBQ!!!!!111"

UltimaJoe777

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

It's a thing. Even Imperials in Skyrim got more gold than other races.

At the time of Skyrim and other TES games it makes sense, imperials dominate Tamriel, but that's not true in ESO.

Well you can always blame the Tharns.

Lord_Draevan

It'd be nice if we got a Stamina regen buff instead of gold gain, but I'll take whatever I can get.

AverageJo3Gam3r

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

It's a thing. Even Imperials in Skyrim got more gold than other races.

At the time of Skyrim and other TES games it makes sense, imperials dominate Tamriel, but that's not true in ESO.

Only as a result of the soul burst. Imperials still have their inate racial entrepenurial traits. Their land is just being invaded by three armies plus the daedra. In fact, becoming a mercenary shows their entrepenurial spirit in hard times.

Shadesofkin

Holycannoli wrote: »

Imperial Skills

Shield Affinity: This passive ability has been renamed to “Diplomat.” Also, in addition to the current benefit it now increases your gold gained by 1%.

So from what is the increased gold actually gained? I'm assuming monster loot and chests but what about quests, selling to NPCs etc? 1% isn't exactly a lot so if the sources of that increase are limited it's really of no benefit is it?

If I get 670 on my next writ completion that will tell me it's on everything.

UltimaJoe777

Lord_Draevan wrote: »

It'd be nice if we got a Stamina regen buff instead of gold gain, but I'll take whatever I can get.

Except that isn't a flavor effect...

biovitalb16_ESO

How is this even going to work. A mob drops 23 gold...you get 1% extra so you get 23.23 gold? Stupid passive is stupid.

Acrolas wrote: »

Imperial: 1,000,000 gold gained, 10,000 bonus gold gained incrementally.
"Eh, it's just 10,000 gold."

Breton: 1,000,000 AP gained, 10,000 bonus AP gained incrementally.
"OMG OP FML BBQ!!!!!111"

Actually it is. If you are trying to Emperor/Empress, 10,000 extra AP could make or break it.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

It's a thing. Even Imperials in Skyrim got more gold than other races.

At the time of Skyrim and other TES games it makes sense, imperials dominate Tamriel, but that's not true in ESO.

Only as a result of the soul burst. Imperials still have their inate racial entrepenurial traits. Their land is just being invaded by three armies plus the daedra. In fact, becoming a mercenary shows their entrepenurial spirit in hard times.

No matter how well spoken you are, your business won't do well when everyone hates you.
If their land was simply being invaded by the daedra, everything would be fine but their leaders worship the daedra.

Father_X_Zombie

Too op, needs a nerf

I_killed_Vivec

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Too op, needs a nerf

I'd happily take 1% less gold if I could have something nice in return.

Holycannoli

Acrolas wrote: »

Imperial: 1,000,000 gold gained, 10,000 bonus gold gained incrementally.
"Eh, it's just 10,000 gold."

Breton: 1,000,000 AP gained, 10,000 bonus AP gained incrementally.
"OMG OP FML BBQ!!!!!111"

Yeah the Breton bonus is OP, or at least the only one that's incredibly useful.

Honestly that's what the imperials should have gotten. Cyrodiil is their land after all, right?

If imperials make 1,000,000 gold they don't necessarily get a 10,000 bonus either. Like has been said, what happens if a mob drops like 50 gold? Imperials get 1% more? It doesn't work. That 1% is lost.

Whoever thought up these passives didn't do a very good job. 1% more gold vs 1% more AP? Who the hell would choose gold? For that matter, who the hell would choose any of the other passives over 1% AP (aside from maybe Altmer's 1% XP)?

It's important to know though what gold sources give imperials that 1% bonus and how it works for amounts under 100. We need clarification.

Lysette

josefcifkaeb17_ESO wrote: »

I don't understand why being an imperial would grant you more money for anything in the first place.
I mean if anything, the imperials should have to pay more for stuff, most of them are daedra worshipers after all.
The playable one's are outcasts/rogue, so it's natural they would face scorn from all other races.

that has traditional reasons - it was a passive in former TES games for imperials - not sure in which ones though.