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Valen_Byte

Anyone else notice that all the signatures are no longer centered. They are all to the left margin. I cant get mine to center now.

Raknosh

Welcome on the forums @Raver! There is more drama than usual these day but it's usually very friendly compared to other forums *cough Azura cough*

Adenoma wrote: »

@Stridig and @Raknosh , I know stridig has an AD, but rak you should take one to vet so we can do some PvP together in vet every once in a while. MagWarden is gonna be my last hurrah in BwB. Otherwise, I'm just keeping a sorc build in BwB to settle dueling grudges.

I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon. I have only 2 AD over my 2 accounts. One is a banker, maxed carrying horse and holds a wack ton of stuff. The other one is my 2cnd account crafter, there is just no way that I could get enough skill point to make him viable in pvp

W0lf_z13

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Anyone else notice that all the signatures are no longer centered. They are all to the left margin. I cant get mine to center now.

DAMN IT!!!! all the hard work on my sig

Mjollo

Raknosh wrote: »

Welcome on the forums @Raver! There is more drama than usual these day but it's usually very friendly compared to other forums *cough Azura cough*

Adenoma wrote: »

@Stridig and @Raknosh , I know stridig has an AD, but rak you should take one to vet so we can do some PvP together in vet every once in a while. MagWarden is gonna be my last hurrah in BwB. Otherwise, I'm just keeping a sorc build in BwB to settle dueling grudges.

I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon. I have only 2 AD over my 2 accounts. One is a banker, maxed carrying horse and holds a wack ton of stuff. The other one is my 2cnd account crafter, there is just no way that I could get enough skill point to make him viable in pvp

If you believe hard enough, you can do anything, rak! DONT LET SKYSHARD HUNTING GET YOU DOWN.

Stridig

Azurulia wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Azurulia wrote: »

Personally, If I find 2 people fighting, I'll generally just put my weapon away and either /sitchair or /lute.

I don't like this play style. If I see a 1v1 fight ( especially near a keep ) I am going in and helping my team. I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

PvP is not about 1v1. It is about fighting for alliance, helping each other, and killing all enemy. I think many players forgot what PvP is about.

The general goal of the faction is to take under control and defend as many objectives as possible.

I'll be the first one to say that cyrodiil isn't about 1v1, and those who think it is missed the memo about how the map works.

I'm very much a strategic, objective-based player. When it boils down to it, I don't particularly care about "the fights," as I know if I push for objects there will lots of them anyway. People who use the term "Zerg" very loosely grind my gears, especially those who use it as an excuse for something.

The enemy is "Zerging you" and you don't like it? Well do something about it--split them up! 2 people can use 8 trebs at a keep somewhere off in the boonies and take down outer quick, especially if the keeps hp is low from recent upgrades. You'd be very surprised how many people will respond to this. Heck, even to 1 person, especially if they actually do down the outer wall.

If 6+ people show up, that is that much less that is with "the zerg" Not to mention the keep is flagged and won't unflag until wall has been over 50% for a while, so while they realize this is a hoax, it's already too late becaosue there are stuck there for a min or 2.

Bonus points if you do this to multiple keeps at a time.

I can't help but smile when I flag something and a force of 6-10~ show up to find me alone as another keep elsewhere flags from the "actual" attack. ...then my partner that came with me that's off stealthed rezzes me and I flag it "alone" again.

I cry wolf enough and they will, for the most part, often disregard that 3-4 siege as "it's probably just that guy again."

Meanwhile the front door is about to go down from a ram and several groups with it.

You're not the first person to say Cyrodiil isn't about 1v1. And I don't think anybody here has claimed that it is.

Raknosh

vamp_emily wrote: »

I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

Personally, when I'm doing a real duel, if a DC jumps in, I'm gonna let him die.
And if an AD/EP tries to jump me, he's a dead man, even if he stops attacking me, I will show no pity.
Interrupting a duel = death sentence in my book. Like it or not, I don't give a damn.
Like you've said many time, " this is my playstyle"

Mjollo wrote: »

PvP is about having fun.

^^^^^ THAT is the true objective of PvP, I think many players forgot what PvP is about.

Raknosh

Valen_Byte wrote: »

Anyone else notice that all the signatures are no longer centered. They are all to the left margin. I cant get mine to center now.

Rip our signatures

Mjollo wrote: »

Raknosh wrote: »

Welcome on the forums @Raver! There is more drama than usual these day but it's usually very friendly compared to other forums *cough Azura cough*

Adenoma wrote: »

@Stridig and @Raknosh , I know stridig has an AD, but rak you should take one to vet so we can do some PvP together in vet every once in a while. MagWarden is gonna be my last hurrah in BwB. Otherwise, I'm just keeping a sorc build in BwB to settle dueling grudges.

I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon. I have only 2 AD over my 2 accounts. One is a banker, maxed carrying horse and holds a wack ton of stuff. The other one is my 2cnd account crafter, there is just no way that I could get enough skill point to make him viable in pvp

If you believe hard enough, you can do anything, rak! DONT LET SKYSHARD HUNTING GET YOU DOWN.

Haha! I have a friend that made a big crafter viable but I don't have his patience.
Beside I have 2 toons waiting for a skyshard hunt

Stridig

We missed you last night Rak. Our little group had probably 1000 kills in a few hours. I'm not sure how many but between Saber and I we had 400 or so. Great fun! (kc report so im sure thats not that many actual different kills)

Lumsdenml

Stridig wrote: »

We missed you last night Rak. Our little group had probably 1000 kills in a few hours. I'm not sure how many but between Saber and I we had 400 or so. Great fun! (kc report so im sure thats not that many actual different kills)

I'm pretty sure "Chancellor of Tacoma" showed up on your kill list a couple of times...

But that fight at Aleswell... fun times!

DCeiver0

It's hard to tell sometimes whether or not a 1v1 is a duel. Typically I assume it is if I'm not sure. I'll stand and watch until it's clear who has the upperhand. If my ally has it, they'll get the satisfaction of the earned kill. If the enemy has it, I'll attempt to save my ally before he dies. If another enemy comes in and tips the fairness scales, you better believe I'm jumping in to balance it out.

Stridig

Lumsdenml wrote: »

Stridig wrote: »

We missed you last night Rak. Our little group had probably 1000 kills in a few hours. I'm not sure how many but between Saber and I we had 400 or so. Great fun! (kc report so im sure thats not that many actual different kills)

I'm pretty sure "Chancellor of Tacoma" showed up on your kill list a couple of times...

But that fight at Aleswell... fun times!

It did a couple times. We were causing trouble at the Alessia bridge for a while. The hoardes of AD and EP there finally got tired of us.

vamp_emily

Raknosh wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

Personally, when I'm doing a real duel, if a DC jumps in, I'm gonna let him die.
And if an AD/EP tries to jump me, he's a dead man, even if he stops attacking me, I will show no pity.
Interrupting a duel = death sentence in my book. Like it or not, I don't give a damn.
Like you've said many time, " this is my playstyle"

I understand how you feel, but if I am leaving a keep and see the enemy near the keep I am attacking even if it is 1v1. If the person backs off and I die, then they might as well do what is right "go find some other place to duel" because I am known to pop sieges on the ground and stop the duel.

However, if someone says something like, "I am dueling" then there is a 99.9% chance I will just ride by. But they better say something before I start attacking.

Stridig

So many people lately that just use 1 skill. I think I'm going to try it. It's effective. 1 person spams snipe, 1 spams dizzying swing, and 1 spams BOL. THOSE guys get more kills than anybody. Think of all the skill points they save. Lol. And yes I got repeatedly wrecked by those people. And yes I need to L2P.

ColoursYouHave

Noblesse wrote: »

New to the forums but you guys may know me as "A King" or "@zRaver". Unfortunately what ever I say right now, people are still going to think poorly or negatively from which ever faction either if you cross faction or have a specific faction you stick to. I simply want to tell a simple small side of myself cause people can obviously and will make assumptions and I have no problems cause people are entitled to their opinions except when it goes out of hand and have little to no basis to make assumption and start a commotion or "Drama" which sadly usually is the case. Nonetheless I solo and been known to solo(most of the time 90% of the time) for those who know me well or even a little. I have met awesome people and made friends to those from opposing factions either if I'm on DC or EP and of course made plenty on the same faction on both EP and DC. Sadly there are encounters where things do get heated from player to player (I=Myself and X=other player) even some to my own fault but overall I don't influence nor help those from other factions to achieve their goals or help EMP those from different factions just because I played on a different faction as a solo player for a short amount of time. So lets keep things simple and clean and stop beating around the bush as they say and just ask away.

Hey there, A King, remember me? We had a nice little fight at Brindle the other day! Welcome to the BWB forums. It usually isn't this aggressive around here, except when Emily gets mad about AD doing anything other than absolutely sucking (sorry, Emily, its all in good fun).

Stridig wrote: »

I guess the point I was trying to make is this:
If you are willing to engage somebody who in in a 1v1 fight, then in my opinion you should engage with them. Don't stand several meters away at a different elevation spamming snipe. That's not a "play style". It's chicken ****. Have some dignity and risk getting your ass kicked too if you want to jump in. My opinion of course.

Yeah, but Snipe is pretty much an entirely chicken *** skill, IMO. Pretty much worthless in an actual fight, but it can be effective spammed from a distance against somebody who is already preoccupied taking on other enemies. It seems to be a lot more common now that ZOS destroyed the ability to use Poison Injection in BWB made it the first Bow skill unlocked, and I think a lot of new players end up using it as a crutch as a result by running with a group and getting their hits in from a distance without learning how to actually fight. I even ran into an enemy player the other day who literally hit me with four Binding Javelins in a row, then repeatedly tried to Snipe me from point-blank range... and this guy somehow managed to rank all the way up to Corporal.

Raknosh wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

Personally, when I'm doing a real duel, if a DC jumps in, I'm gonna let him die.
And if an AD/EP tries to jump me, he's a dead man, even if he stops attacking me, I will show no pity.
Interrupting a duel = death sentence in my book. Like it or not, I don't give a damn.
Like you've said many time, " this is my playstyle"

That is pretty similar to my duel "etiquette." If I'm dueling and another AD jumps in, I immediately stop fighting and let my enemy handle him. If another EP or DC jumps in, I'm killing him. If you're willing to fight me 2v1, you'd better be willing to fight me 1v1 as well.

As far as running into other people who are in a 1v1, I'll jump in if they are in an active part of the map (near keeps/resources that are likely to be attacked, along a transit line between opposing keeps, etc), but if they are out of the way of any action, I'll usually stop and watch, and if the AD starts doing anything that may be a signal (running towards me, blocking in my direction, etc.), I'll jump in and help. Having a duel interrupted can suck, but I realize that it comes with the territory of dueling in Cyrodiil, so I can't really be mad if it happens to me, and I hope others can look at it the same way.

Stridig

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Noblesse wrote: »

New to the forums but you guys may know me as "A King" or "@zRaver". Unfortunately what ever I say right now, people are still going to think poorly or negatively from which ever faction either if you cross faction or have a specific faction you stick to. I simply want to tell a simple small side of myself cause people can obviously and will make assumptions and I have no problems cause people are entitled to their opinions except when it goes out of hand and have little to no basis to make assumption and start a commotion or "Drama" which sadly usually is the case. Nonetheless I solo and been known to solo(most of the time 90% of the time) for those who know me well or even a little. I have met awesome people and made friends to those from opposing factions either if I'm on DC or EP and of course made plenty on the same faction on both EP and DC. Sadly there are encounters where things do get heated from player to player (I=Myself and X=other player) even some to my own fault but overall I don't influence nor help those from other factions to achieve their goals or help EMP those from different factions just because I played on a different faction as a solo player for a short amount of time. So lets keep things simple and clean and stop beating around the bush as they say and just ask away.

Hey there, A King, remember me? We had a nice little fight at Brindle the other day! Welcome to the BWB forums. It usually isn't this aggressive around here, except when Emily gets mad about AD doing anything other than absolutely sucking (sorry, Emily, its all in good fun).

Stridig wrote: »

I guess the point I was trying to make is this:
If you are willing to engage somebody who in in a 1v1 fight, then in my opinion you should engage with them. Don't stand several meters away at a different elevation spamming snipe. That's not a "play style". It's chicken ****. Have some dignity and risk getting your ass kicked too if you want to jump in. My opinion of course.

Yeah, but Snipe is pretty much an entirely chicken *** skill, IMO. Pretty much worthless in an actual fight, but it can be effective spammed from a distance against somebody who is already preoccupied taking on other enemies. It seems to be a lot more common now that ZOS destroyed the ability to use Poison Injection in BWB made it the first Bow skill unlocked, and I think a lot of new players end up using it as a crutch as a result by running with a group and getting their hits in from a distance without learning how to actually fight. I even ran into an enemy player the other day who literally hit me with four Binding Javelins in a row, then repeatedly tried to Snipe me from point-blank range... and this guy somehow managed to rank all the way up to Corporal.

Raknosh wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

Personally, when I'm doing a real duel, if a DC jumps in, I'm gonna let him die.
And if an AD/EP tries to jump me, he's a dead man, even if he stops attacking me, I will show no pity.
Interrupting a duel = death sentence in my book. Like it or not, I don't give a damn.
Like you've said many time, " this is my playstyle"

That is pretty similar to my duel "etiquette." If I'm dueling and another AD jumps in, I immediately stop fighting and let my enemy handle him. If another EP or DC jumps in, I'm killing him. If you're willing to fight me 2v1, you'd better be willing to fight me 1v1 as well.

As far as running into other people who are in a 1v1, I'll jump in if they are in an active part of the map (near keeps/resources that are likely to be attacked, along a transit line between opposing keeps, etc), but if they are out of the way of any action, I'll usually stop and watch, and if the AD starts doing anything that may be a signal (running towards me, blocking in my direction, etc.), I'll jump in and help. Having a duel interrupted can suck, but I realize that it comes with the territory of dueling in Cyrodiil, so I can't really be mad if it happens to me, and I hope others can look at it the same way.

The key point you made was that you would "jump in". I would prefer somebody to jump in as opposed to hiding somewhere spamming snipe. At least if you jump in you are taking a risk. I can respect that. For what it's worth.

Noblesse

vamp_emily wrote: »

Noblesse wrote: »

New to the forums but you guys may know me as "A King" or "@zRaver". Unfortunately what ever I say right now, people are still going to think poorly or negatively from which ever faction either if you cross faction or have a specific faction you stick to. I simply want to tell a simple small side of myself cause people can obviously and will make assumptions and I have no problems cause people are entitled to their opinions except when it goes out of hand and have little to no basis to make assumption and start a commotion or "Drama" which sadly usually is the case. Nonetheless I solo and been known to solo(most of the time 90% of the time) for those who know me well or even a little. I have met awesome people and made friends to those from opposing factions either if I'm on DC or EP and of course made plenty on the same faction on both EP and DC. Sadly there are encounters where things do get heated from player to player (I=Myself and X=other player) even some to my own fault but overall I don't influence nor help those from other factions to achieve their goals or help EMP those from different factions just because I played on a different faction as a solo player for a short amount of time. So lets keep things simple and clean and stop beating around the bush as they say and just ask away.

Hi A King,

I have a few questions.

1. I know many of the AD players lie on here, but there is a rumor that all you do is trade AP with other board leaders, is this true?

2. Why are you playing on DC again? I thought players ( such as yourself ) went to EP because they needed 'Help". They still need help.

Hey Emily,
The answer to your first question is no, I have never ever traded AP with anyone ever before. I have been whispered by a few AD assuming that I was double teaming and collaborating with EP against AD meaning 2 factions against one and have also been whispered by EP assuming that I was double teaming and collaborating with AD against EP meaning 2 factions against one. As for the person in first place for EP "G U Y", I believe is his name, I do not know him or have spoken to him maybe once but just a simple gf or something similar along the line that I do with many other players that I come across.

As for me playing on DC again is simply because I have a EP toon so why not a DC toon even though mostly all of my previous toons were DC except for like 2 out of like a dozen characters I have made for BWB pvp. But the thought of helping EP did cross my mind. but all I ever did on EP was solo and occasionally group with friends in a small party that I have met over time and did join a group to achieve capturing the last 1 or 2 keeps for emp because I was in first place at the time, which most people would do if they were a keep or 2 away from emp'ing.

This may be a bit off topic but for me in my opinion being Emperor for a faction is a job to help the faction and do the most or try to do the best for the faction. Unfortunately enemy players can easily take that the wrong way and see it as an abusive power as if I am intentionally targeting them for a wrongful purpose thus leading to rumors and accusation which can easily spread like wild fire.

Fun fact for everyone, when I started playing on my EP toon, it was about my 2nd week in after I stopped playing ESO for a couple of months.

Azurulia

Stridig wrote: »

Azurulia wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

Azurulia wrote: »

Personally, If I find 2 people fighting, I'll generally just put my weapon away and either /sitchair or /lute.

I don't like this play style. If I see a 1v1 fight ( especially near a keep ) I am going in and helping my team. I hate when I do that and the other DC just backs off and lets me die.

PvP is not about 1v1. It is about fighting for alliance, helping each other, and killing all enemy. I think many players forgot what PvP is about.

The general goal of the faction is to take under control and defend as many objectives as possible.

I'll be the first one to say that cyrodiil isn't about 1v1, and those who think it is missed the memo about how the map works.

I'm very much a strategic, objective-based player. When it boils down to it, I don't particularly care about "the fights," as I know if I push for objects there will lots of them anyway. People who use the term "Zerg" very loosely grind my gears, especially those who use it as an excuse for something.

The enemy is "Zerging you" and you don't like it? Well do something about it--split them up! 2 people can use 8 trebs at a keep somewhere off in the boonies and take down outer quick, especially if the keeps hp is low from recent upgrades. You'd be very surprised how many people will respond to this. Heck, even to 1 person, especially if they actually do down the outer wall.

If 6+ people show up, that is that much less that is with "the zerg" Not to mention the keep is flagged and won't unflag until wall has been over 50% for a while, so while they realize this is a hoax, it's already too late becaosue there are stuck there for a min or 2.

Bonus points if you do this to multiple keeps at a time.

I can't help but smile when I flag something and a force of 6-10~ show up to find me alone as another keep elsewhere flags from the "actual" attack. ...then my partner that came with me that's off stealthed rezzes me and I flag it "alone" again.

I cry wolf enough and they will, for the most part, often disregard that 3-4 siege as "it's probably just that guy again."

Meanwhile the front door is about to go down from a ram and several groups with it.

You're not the first person to say Cyrodiil isn't about 1v1. And I don't think anybody here has claimed that it is.

It's a figure of speech, you smart ass.

vamp_emily

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

Hey there, A King, remember me? We had a nice little fight at Brindle the other day! Welcome to the BWB forums. It usually isn't this aggressive around here, except when Emily gets mad about AD doing anything other than absolutely sucking (sorry, Emily, its all in good fun).

Many people agree with what I say but just don't post on here because they don't want to be a forum warrior.

vamp_emily

Noblesse wrote: »

Hey Emily,
The answer to your first question is no, I have never ever traded AP with anyone ever before. I have been whispered by a few AD assuming that I was double teaming and collaborating with EP against AD meaning 2 factions against one and have also been whispered by EP assuming that I was double teaming and collaborating with AD against EP meaning 2 factions against one. As for the person in first place for EP "G U Y", I believe is his name, I do not know him or have spoken to him maybe once but just a simple gf or something similar along the line that I do with many other players that I come across.

I didn't think you did, I seen you often running around solo killing everything.

When I first met you, you were like my superman ( I'm sure you didn't know that ) but many times we ended up that the same locations and you would save me. I remember a few times it was poor little me fighting 3 or 4 AD/EP. I would barely be alive and you would come rushing in and kill them all ( ♥ ♥ ♥ ).

i was disappointed, when I woke up one day and seen you on EP. Now I have to find my new superman.

ofSunhold

All the unwritten 1v1 rules are a little confusing tbh. Maybe a week ago in BwB I was grouped with an ally, and a magblade dumped me off my horse. My partner turned around and we killed him. He dropped some salty tells on my partner because we were 1v1-ing and that was unfair.

Lolwut

If I can tell you're dueling, I'll stop and watch, but hands off. Of course. If I can't tell you're dueling, I don't care if you're by yourself.

And if you hit my ally, see how there's two of us? You just picked 1v2.

At least I won't hit you with snipe?

Valen_Byte

As far as Im concerned, there are no duels in BwB. Dueling is a PvE activity.

Stridig

I don't even know how the topic of duels got started. Anyway..... There has been a mass migration from DC. And it has been pretty fun fighting friends and guild members.

Valen_Byte

YOU started it!! lol

Stridig

I never mentioned duels. I said if 2 people are fighting 1v1 don't be a ****y and spam snipe from a safe distance. If you want to help your friend grow a set and jump in. Something along those lines. Lol

Adenoma

I need to make a gank build literally just to ruin duels.

Edit: I'm thinking a DK build with molten armaments (or whatever the +40% to heavy attacks is), using alchemist and pots, and then I dunno what else.

Stridig

Stop it

Valen_Byte

+Elegant for another 20% boost to heavy attk

ofSunhold

Adenoma wrote: »

I need to make a gank build literally just to ruin duels.

Edit: I'm thinking a DK build with molten armaments (or whatever the +40% to heavy attacks is), using alchemist and pots, and then I dunno what else.

Raknosh

Heavy attack build must be so boring tho, it's even worse than WB WB WB or Snipe snipe snipe

Stridig

3 day weekend! What am I going to do with all that free time?