Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
The issues on the North American megaservers have been resolved at this time. If you continue to experience difficulties at login, please restart your client. Thank you for your patience!
On the way down.
SiAScORCH
✭✭✭✭
I'm not sure who else shares my view on this but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year and I've seen some terrible decisions as well as decisions that could improve not being implemented. I'll list several experiences, though not necessarily in a particular order.
My first experience was when they nerfed the sorc shields from 20 secs to 6. People in PvP were crying about it. Okay, so they could of went down to 12 seconds, or 10, or further more made it so you could only have one shield active at a time. They had already at this point reduced the amount of the shield you gained in the PvP area. Not only did they nerf the duration, with that they should of nerfed the cost. High burst DPS builds now suffer drastically if you relied on shields to get additional health. So to get an 18 second shield you have to cast the spell an additional two times, which also means that spell is now draining your magic that much faster. That also means if you run the shield on your back bar you have to swap an additional two times which both take away from sustained but still burst damage as well as DPS because you're swapping and having to cast it more often. Sure in places like vMA the shields never lasted longer than 6-8 seconds, but in dungeons you could cast and not have to worry about it for 20 secs. That was a devastating blow to magic sorcs, though I'm sure people will toss in excuses and make childish comments, but this statement is a fact.
My second experience was the trait change. When I made my two daggers for my back bar Legendary w/ Nirnhoned trait that was the best trait and also the hardest to come by. With Sharpened now better for DPS than Nirnhoned weapons, I basically wasted 16 Tempering Alloys, whatever v16 mats were required and 2 potent nirncrux. I'm sure that made a lot of people mad, especially if you work hard to earn your gold or farm your mats.
My third experience was them changing the racial passives without offering a free race change which is what they should of done. By doing this, people who want to be top DPS contenders are forced to pay for crowns to do a race change.
My fourth experience was my DK no longer being fun to do in PvP. We all know they have issues with gap closers, so instead of fixing the problem they nerfed the range of the Take Flight, basically giving DK's the finger instead of fixing a broken factor.
Now for an upcoming issues:
How many of you play in the afternoon and leave your characters logged into Mournhold then when you go to log on in the afternoon you can't connect to a character because of everybody that's on. It's happened to me several times and takes several tries to actually get on. Yet with One Tamriel coming all races will be visible now? Yea. I can tell you exactly how that's going to go with the instance issue.
Logical suggestions ignored:
I recommended months ago that they either move the server maintenance day or move the guild trader swap over day. Having the guild trader swap over while the server is down is wasn't the smartest move. For instance I know that the guild trader swaps over at 7:00 am CST. The bids close at 6:55 am. So I know to be on at that time in case we don't win the blind bid, however with server maintenance down you have no earthly idea when to be on because the server could be down for a few hours up to who knows what's the longest it's taken before. Not to mention some people download the patch at faster speeds so it basically screws over trading guilds in a sense. Either move the server maintenance to Tuesday, or move the guild trader swap over to Sunday. That's simple enough right? I guess they don't think so.
Overall:
Things that need to be fixed rarely or take entirely way too long. I've noticed that they can't seem to balance and they either buff too extreme or nerf too extreme, but never balanced. They change things at will which can potentially cost players a good amount of gold. I think the game is going down in far as quality. Since this last DLC I've honestly lost any interest that I once had left to play the game.
Anyways, that was my observation in the near 6 months that I've been playing the game and can honestly I won't miss it one bit. I'll miss some of the friends that I've made in my time on the game but the game in general? No.
My first experience was when they nerfed the sorc shields from 20 secs to 6. People in PvP were crying about it. Okay, so they could of went down to 12 seconds, or 10, or further more made it so you could only have one shield active at a time. They had already at this point reduced the amount of the shield you gained in the PvP area. Not only did they nerf the duration, with that they should of nerfed the cost. High burst DPS builds now suffer drastically if you relied on shields to get additional health. So to get an 18 second shield you have to cast the spell an additional two times, which also means that spell is now draining your magic that much faster. That also means if you run the shield on your back bar you have to swap an additional two times which both take away from sustained but still burst damage as well as DPS because you're swapping and having to cast it more often. Sure in places like vMA the shields never lasted longer than 6-8 seconds, but in dungeons you could cast and not have to worry about it for 20 secs. That was a devastating blow to magic sorcs, though I'm sure people will toss in excuses and make childish comments, but this statement is a fact.
My second experience was the trait change. When I made my two daggers for my back bar Legendary w/ Nirnhoned trait that was the best trait and also the hardest to come by. With Sharpened now better for DPS than Nirnhoned weapons, I basically wasted 16 Tempering Alloys, whatever v16 mats were required and 2 potent nirncrux. I'm sure that made a lot of people mad, especially if you work hard to earn your gold or farm your mats.
My third experience was them changing the racial passives without offering a free race change which is what they should of done. By doing this, people who want to be top DPS contenders are forced to pay for crowns to do a race change.
My fourth experience was my DK no longer being fun to do in PvP. We all know they have issues with gap closers, so instead of fixing the problem they nerfed the range of the Take Flight, basically giving DK's the finger instead of fixing a broken factor.
Now for an upcoming issues:
How many of you play in the afternoon and leave your characters logged into Mournhold then when you go to log on in the afternoon you can't connect to a character because of everybody that's on. It's happened to me several times and takes several tries to actually get on. Yet with One Tamriel coming all races will be visible now? Yea. I can tell you exactly how that's going to go with the instance issue.
Logical suggestions ignored:
I recommended months ago that they either move the server maintenance day or move the guild trader swap over day. Having the guild trader swap over while the server is down is wasn't the smartest move. For instance I know that the guild trader swaps over at 7:00 am CST. The bids close at 6:55 am. So I know to be on at that time in case we don't win the blind bid, however with server maintenance down you have no earthly idea when to be on because the server could be down for a few hours up to who knows what's the longest it's taken before. Not to mention some people download the patch at faster speeds so it basically screws over trading guilds in a sense. Either move the server maintenance to Tuesday, or move the guild trader swap over to Sunday. That's simple enough right? I guess they don't think so.
Overall:
Things that need to be fixed rarely or take entirely way too long. I've noticed that they can't seem to balance and they either buff too extreme or nerf too extreme, but never balanced. They change things at will which can potentially cost players a good amount of gold. I think the game is going down in far as quality. Since this last DLC I've honestly lost any interest that I once had left to play the game.
Anyways, that was my observation in the near 6 months that I've been playing the game and can honestly I won't miss it one bit. I'll miss some of the friends that I've made in my time on the game but the game in general? No.
2
-
clayandaudrey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Overall I think this type of thread has been around since launch. Nothing new here. Sorry this game wasn't for you.6 -
inflaburwb17_ESO✭✭✭"...but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year .."
Started playing in February, you say.
Been around long enough, you say.
On a totally, unrelated note: Have any of you noticed how players that proclaim "That is the last straw! I am leaving ESO and never playing it again!" leave, then go play a couple of other MMO's and discover what an absolute gem ESO is in comparison to the other offerings out there? Then they quietly come back.
Of course, when they come back, they don't announce quite so loudly, or even at all, how foolish they have been.
8 -
SiAScORCH✭✭✭✭clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »Overall I think this type of thread has been around since launch. Nothing new here. Sorry this game wasn't for you.
Not that the game wasn't for me. I enjoyed the game, just the route the company is going. I've listed just a few things that I could think of. I have more, just been up 12 hours as I just got off work.
But thanks.0 -
SiAScORCH✭✭✭✭inflaburwb17_ESO wrote: »"...but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year .."
Started playing in February, you say.
Been around long enough, you say.
On a totally, unrelated note: Have any of you noticed how players that proclaim "That is the last straw! I am leaving ESO and never playing it again!" leave, then go play a couple of other MMO's and discover what an absolute gem ESO is in comparison to the other offerings out there? Then they quietly come back.
Of course, when they come back, they don't announce quite so loudly, or even at all, how foolish they have been.
Clearly you can't read. I've been around long enough and involved in enough games. Long enough in general of gaming, and 6 months is long enough to get an idea of the game.
I'm not saying it's the last straw, I'm pointing out logical reasons the game is going downhill. Besides I've already began to quit, just need to finalize a few things.0 -
jedtb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭snip...
How many of you play in the afternoon and leave your characters logged into Mournhold then when you go to log on in the afternoon you can't connect to a character because of everybody that's on. It's happened to me several times and takes several tries to actually get on. Yet with One Tamriel coming all races will be visible now? Yea. I can tell you exactly how that's going to go with the instance issue.
snip....
if you leave your toon logged on in the afternoon why do you then need to log your toon on in the afternoon?
sorry... can't seem to make any sense of that at all.0 -
AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You've played for all of 6 months. Of course you'd only notice the changes that have been made in that time. Ask anyone that is still here from launch or even from beta. The game has vastly improved. Yes it still has issues, yes PvP is still being the red headed step child and causing many issues, but ZOS have tried and succeeded in making the game better overall.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 509 -
inflaburwb17_ESO✭✭✭AzraelKrieg wrote: »You've played for all of 6 months. Of course you'd only notice the changes that have been made in that time. Ask anyone that is still here from launch or even from beta. The game has vastly improved. Yes it still has issues, yes PvP is still being the red headed step child and causing many issues, but ZOS have tried and succeeded in making the game better overall.
+100000 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Firstly, good sorcs are still sorcs. Bad sorcs now don't have a crutch. I'm fine with that.
Secondly, nirhoned daggers have never, ever been best weapons. Nirhoned was spell pen and daggers is weapon crit the two don't even go together. You made a mistake making them in the first place. Technically, they are better now than they were. Just not on a magica character.
What race are you/do you need to change to? Dps wise, Dumner has been bugged slightly. But if you're a high elf it's the tiniest bit of difference.
Dawnbreaker > take flight anyway. Way better. I agree the broken gap closers thing is bs though. But at least crit rush and toppling charge actually work now. At least that's a thing.
The game is going downhill because of performance issue to me. There's a few things here and there they could do, but zergs and lag/crashes are my main issues. Sort them somehow and I'm golden.Edited by Brrrofski on August 8, 2016 1:03PM0 -
I_killed_Vivec✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭inflaburwb17_ESO wrote: »"...but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year .."
Started playing in February, you say.
Been around long enough, you say.
On a totally, unrelated note: Have any of you noticed how players that proclaim "That is the last straw! I am leaving ESO and never playing it again!" leave, then go play a couple of other MMO's and discover what an absolute gem ESO is in comparison to the other offerings out there? Then they quietly come back.
Of course, when they come back, they don't announce quite so loudly, or even at all, how foolish they have been.
Yes, the first thing to stand out was " I started playing in February of this year"
The second was that the main gripe was the nerf to sorc shields...
Obviously the game is going downhill if they start nerfing sorcs
0 -
SiAScORCH✭✭✭✭Firstly, good sorcs are still sorcs. Bad sorcs now don't have a crutch. I'm fine with that.
Secondly, nirhoned daggers have never, ever been best weapons. Nirhoned was spell pen and daggers is weapon crit the two don't even go together. You made a mistake making them in the first place. Technically, they are better now than they were. Just not on a magica character.
What race are you/do you need to change to? Dps wise, Dumner has been bugged slightly. But if you're a high elf it's the tiniest bit of difference.
Dawnbreaker > take flight anyway. Way better.
Yes I know dawnbreaker is better for full scale pvping, but when you're running in a group in certain areas like farming IC and people try to run, take flight used to fix that, but now with the range nerf I can't take flight from as far away as I used to in order to prevent them from running. Also when catching a group all stacked together, take flight did wonders.0 -
SiAScORCH✭✭✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »inflaburwb17_ESO wrote: »"...but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year .."
Started playing in February, you say.
Been around long enough, you say.
On a totally, unrelated note: Have any of you noticed how players that proclaim "That is the last straw! I am leaving ESO and never playing it again!" leave, then go play a couple of other MMO's and discover what an absolute gem ESO is in comparison to the other offerings out there? Then they quietly come back.
Of course, when they come back, they don't announce quite so loudly, or even at all, how foolish they have been.
Yes, the first thing to stand out was " I started playing in February of this year"
The second was that the main gripe was the nerf to sorc shields...
Obviously the game is going downhill if they start nerfing sorcs
Apparently you're one of the ones that can't read. I'm simply stating examples.0 -
Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Firstly, good sorcs are still sorcs. Bad sorcs now don't have a crutch. I'm fine with that.
Secondly, nirhoned daggers have never, ever been best weapons. Nirhoned was spell pen and daggers is weapon crit the two don't even go together. You made a mistake making them in the first place. Technically, they are better now than they were. Just not on a magica character.
What race are you/do you need to change to? Dps wise, Dumner has been bugged slightly. But if you're a high elf it's the tiniest bit of difference.
Dawnbreaker > take flight anyway. Way better.
Yes I know dawnbreaker is better for full scale pvping, but when you're running in a group in certain areas like farming IC and people try to run, take flight used to fix that, but now with the range nerf I can't take flight from as far away as I used to in order to prevent them from running. Also when catching a group all stacked together, take flight did wonders.
Why would you stop people running by take flight when you are a DK who has talons?0 -
inflaburwb17_ESO✭✭✭I guess the younger you are, the longer 6 months seem, relative as a percentage of your life lived thusfar.
I might not have been "involved in enough games" as you have been, but I do know that, from what I have seen, ZOS is one of the most active developers when it comes to improvements and new content, continuously striving to improve their product. They won't get everything right with every update, but its up to us to give constructive feedback, and not have a fanny wobble and threaten to leave when things go a bit pear shaped.0 -
AzraelKrieg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I_killed_Vivec wrote: »inflaburwb17_ESO wrote: »"...but I've been around long enough and involved in enough games to notice when that game is going down hill. I think that's the route for ESO. I started playing in February of this year .."
Started playing in February, you say.
Been around long enough, you say.
On a totally, unrelated note: Have any of you noticed how players that proclaim "That is the last straw! I am leaving ESO and never playing it again!" leave, then go play a couple of other MMO's and discover what an absolute gem ESO is in comparison to the other offerings out there? Then they quietly come back.
Of course, when they come back, they don't announce quite so loudly, or even at all, how foolish they have been.
Yes, the first thing to stand out was " I started playing in February of this year"
The second was that the main gripe was the nerf to sorc shields...
Obviously the game is going downhill if they start nerfing sorcs
Apparently you're one of the ones that can't read. I'm simply stating examples.
You're simply stating examples of your time in the game which is comparatively short compared some other players.Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 500 -
ZOS_JohanaB✭✭✭✭While we are sorry to see you go "Goodbye" threads are not permitted on the forums per our community rules. So we will have to close this thread.0
This discussion has been closed.