Do you think cheating in pvp is taking place?

Nolaboy

I just want to know how many people has lost faith in Pvp.

Vaoh

I think some players are cheating in PVP

It's not like we already have video evidence and the Devs themselves acknowledging cheating or anything.....

You will see 100% Yes for your results (besides the trolls) so why did you create this poll? Seems pointless.

SirAndy

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Nothing has changed since the last large scale forum blowup, CE still works as do other similar Apps.

KenaPKK

I have faith that no one is cheating in PVP.

Of course not.

Lucky28

2500 crowns for a name change 3000 for a race change. yes, we're being cheated.

GreenSoup2HoT

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Wearing Malubeth in my opinion should be considered cheating. Its not working the way its suppose to and players are abusing that fact.

Stratforge

I have faith that no one is cheating in PVP.

On Xbox I have faith that nobody is cheating. I assume people on PC are cheating but I doubt it's as prevalent as people think.

Etaniel

I think some players are cheating in PVP

I think there are way fewer cheaters than most people believe. I'm sure everyone has been called a cheater in a rage whisper after killing someone

jeedrzej

I think some players are cheating in PVP

I'm pessimist

Mojomonkeyman

I have faith that no one is cheating in PVP.

The only way to improve your quality as a player/athlete is to assume you got beaten legit. Otherwise you will always fall back into the mindset of blaming external factors for any failure which in 99% of all cases is just caused by flawed execution and suboptimal decision making.

Theres studies on that topic accessible, so this isn`t just assumption thats fact.

altemriel

I think some players are cheating in PVP

yes, it still does i guess, but not so much as before

kevlarto_ESO

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Yep see it everyday, there are still some chumps running around with the cheat engine and since ZOS does not seem to really perma ban anyone, they have no incentive not to cheat, which is sad.

On the bright side I see less of it than I used to, and have some great fights win or lose they went on for awhile was a blast.

Cheaters need perma banned no second chances, in fact some of the cheaters I still see are some of the ones that got a 3 day ban, and right back to cheating, shame on you ZOS for letting these people come back.

It is so obvious, when you see certain people that were in god mode, all the sudden start to die like everyone else then 20 minutes later becuae they can't stand being killed so easy the next time you encounter them, back to god mode.. It was never more blatant than when the cheat engine first came to light, wow what a difference, pvp was like night and day, you just cant deny it at that point and I was really disappointed as to how many people were using it.

Alcast

I think some players are cheating in PVP

The answer is obvious. The game does not have a protection system and in addition to that there is tons of exploits to choose from.

Delsskia

I think some players are cheating in PVP

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

Ghost-Shot

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Thelon

I think some players are cheating in PVP

broken game is broken

Rohamad_Ali

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Speed values were changed by those using CE and Autokey together bypassing the internal CD as a few YouTube channel owners posted evidence to in the past . Can't show their videos here but bypassing the global cool downs with macros is possible and still happening , even if less then before .

Ghost-Shot

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Speed values were changed by those using CE and Autokey together bypassing the internal CD as a few YouTube channel owners posted evidence to in the past . Can't show their videos here but bypassing the global cool downs with macros is possible and still happening , even if less then before .

That's not a macro, thats cheat engine. A macro is setting up Razor Synapse so when you you press 1 it presses 1, 2 and 3. Both against TOS but very different things.

Sandman929

I think some players are cheating in PVP

On Xbox One Haderus, after a couple of campaign losses I've seen more and more AD and EP deciding that gap closer exploiting is a "feature" not a bug. If I start to see some of those players suddenly no longer in the game, I guess I'll know that reporting players accomplishes something.

Rohamad_Ali

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Speed values were changed by those using CE and Autokey together bypassing the internal CD as a few YouTube channel owners posted evidence to in the past . Can't show their videos here but bypassing the global cool downs with macros is possible and still happening , even if less then before .

That's not a macro, thats cheat engine. A macro is setting up Razor Synapse so when you you press 1 it presses 1, 2 and 3. Both against TOS but very different things.

Yes I know , I was explaining that was one way they were getting macros to bypass global cool down .

Regular use of macros are not allowed either as you know but those aren't as effective as human control in PvP anyways for most people . Now there are some addons that have been reported recently that assist like a macro . Have to wait an see how ZOS handles those along with the targeting addon .

Ghost-Shot

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Speed values were changed by those using CE and Autokey together bypassing the internal CD as a few YouTube channel owners posted evidence to in the past . Can't show their videos here but bypassing the global cool downs with macros is possible and still happening , even if less then before .

That's not a macro, thats cheat engine. A macro is setting up Razor Synapse so when you you press 1 it presses 1, 2 and 3. Both against TOS but very different things.

Yes I know , I was explaining that was one way they were getting macros to bypass global cool down .

Regular use of macros are not allowed either as you know but those aren't as effective as human control in PvP anyways for most people . Now there are some addons that have been reported recently that assist like a macro . Have to wait an see how ZOS handles those along with the targeting addon .

Yeah this game tends to lag too much for most macros to be very effective anyway, you're way better off learning to animation cancel the old fashioned way.

Coldcelery

I think some players are cheating in PVP

I used to think that cheating was rare then I got a cheat that flagged cheaters.... and my illusion of fair gaming was shattered. I wish I had something like that for this game so then I would at least know.

Rohamad_Ali

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Delsskia wrote: »

ZOS has said that 3rd party programs that change, ignore or exploit the game to give an unfair advantage to some people are cheats. Why don't macros, that ignore internal cool downs and allow a half dozen or more attacks to go off in just 1 or 2 seconds, fall into that cheat category?

Seems to me that if ZOS wants to allow macros, they should be created in the game's UI and respect internal CD's rather than have their own rules and be created with 3rd party programs. Everyone should have access to the advantages of macros rather than just the few who have specific hardware and software to work with.

They do. And a macro can't ignore internal cooldowns, they literally just press multiple buttons for you. If cd's are being bypassed its either a broken cd or a hack.

Speed values were changed by those using CE and Autokey together bypassing the internal CD as a few YouTube channel owners posted evidence to in the past . Can't show their videos here but bypassing the global cool downs with macros is possible and still happening , even if less then before .

That's not a macro, thats cheat engine. A macro is setting up Razor Synapse so when you you press 1 it presses 1, 2 and 3. Both against TOS but very different things.

Yes I know , I was explaining that was one way they were getting macros to bypass global cool down .

Regular use of macros are not allowed either as you know but those aren't as effective as human control in PvP anyways for most people . Now there are some addons that have been reported recently that assist like a macro . Have to wait an see how ZOS handles those along with the targeting addon .

Yeah this game tends to lag too much for most macros to be very effective anyway, you're way better off learning to animation cancel the old fashioned way.

Yeah if people practice enough it's faster then any baseline macro and compensation can be made in cases of lag where a macro will keep attempting the same process .

cbaudersub17_ESO

I think some players are cheating in PVP

"..think...". I know, as I have seen it through my own monitor. Intentionally, maliciously, and/or detrimentally is an entire other matter.

'Foul-' or 'flag on the play-' type infractions are going to happen since the mechanics <insert your choice of adverb here> make it to live game. Ideally players would exercise restraint to eliminate any real need for population self-policing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ_eP6p3tPs

Astanphaeus

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

The only way to improve your quality as a player/athlete is to assume you got beaten legit. Otherwise you will always fall back into the mindset of blaming external factors for any failure which in 99% of all cases is just caused by flawed execution and suboptimal decision making.

Theres studies on that topic accessible, so this isn`t just assumption thats fact.

When I get beat, I don't assume it was because someone was cheating. That doesn't however keep me from assuming that there are cheaters out there. These aren't contradictory positions to hold. Honestly, thinking there aren't cheaters is horribly naive.

Some_Guy

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Nolaboy wrote: »

I just want to know how many people has lost faith in Pvp.

Is a pig's a** pork?

Ghost-Shot

I think some players are cheating in PVP

As long as games exist cheating will exist, that's just the reality of it. It happens but I don't think its anywhere near as common as people think it is, with the exception of the cheat engine weekend, that *** was crazy lol.

Hyssia

I think some players are cheating in PVP

There will always be something to exploit to gain advantages over others in PvP.

One, for an example, is people paying gold for AP so they can guarantee their emperorship.
example

edit: formatting

LegendaryMage

Hyssia wrote: »

There will always be something to exploit to gain advantages over others in PvP.

One, for an example, is people paying gold for AP so they can guarantee their emperorship.
example

edit: formatting

Are you and your trolls ever gonna stop spreading drama, drama queens?

Now seriously, why don't you ask your good friend if he cheats. How does he explain 17.5k mag, 42.5k stam, 38.5k hp pools, 3.9k wpn dmg and 1.5k unbuffed stam regen.

These stats match his gameplay and I am yet to find a single player out there that can duel me for 2 hours (literally we dueled for 2 hours) and never run out of resources, hit extremely hard and be extremely tanky at the same time.

Tell me exactly what was used and how, and I'll replicate it on PTS with top quality gear, with also 30 more CPs.

So far no one has been able to replicate these stats with blackrose/malu/agility, so please enlighten me, wise hyssia. If you can't, I call BS and cheat engine. Simple as that.

I'll wait for your reply, I have never been so curious about a specific gear build before, during these last 2 years. Good job!

CyrusArya

I have faith that no one is cheating in PVP.

Literally the only time I suspected cheating in this game was running into Blinxey & Bishop. I PvP alot, and out of the thousands upon thousands of encounters I have, never does anything seem amiss or do I have a suspicion that someone is playing by a different set of rules. So I'm just really curious, all you guys that are convinced that cheating is so prevalent in this game, can you please explain what concrete evidence you are seeing so abundantly that you are convinced cheating is a rampant problem in Cyrodiil? Surely you have some evidence to be so sure.

My experience just does not align with this notion that cheating is as common as some make it out to be.

Arthg

I think some players are cheating in PVP

Anybody killing me has GOT to be cheating.

And I die a LOT.

'Nuff said.