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Would You Buy Any of the Style Parlor Tokens?

Samuel_Bantien
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2 Years of Waiting and it has finally arrived! Not to mention the prices are announced RIGHT BEFORE THE BIG UPDATE!

Prices:
Appearance Change: 1000 Crowns Each
Race Change: 3000 Crowns Each
Name Change: 2500 Crowns Each
Hair styles: 200 Crowns Each
Xael wrote: »
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober

For these prices some changes need to be made before you go live.

Race Changes do not include a name change.
Appearance change does not include a name change either.
This is a terrible design. Either it's a massive oversight or you are doing this on purpose as another cash-grab.


Here are reasons why this current design is bad. Let's look at these hypotheticals:
  • Bill has an Argonian named like other Argonian npcs befitting nothing but an Argonian. Bill decides to race change to an Altmer. Name no longer fits. Now you have to pay for a name change along with the race change.
  • Tom has a male Nord named Larry. Tom decides to get an appearance change to go female. Name no longer applies. Now Tom has to buy a name change alongside the appearance change she already purchased.



This to me screams of intentional rip off. Especially if the prices are kind of high (and they are). Keep in mind when you introduced the Banker and Merchant there were no notes in the description indicating you couldn't repair on the Merchant, use the guild bank on the Banker. Each cost 5k crowns. No refunds. Guess who bought both not knowing these little facts? Me.

Regarding the new character changes:
The 3 changes should be supersets of each other.
  1. Name change
  2. Name change + appearance change
  3. Name change + appearance change + race change


World of Warcraft managed to get this right. So did several other MMORPGs that are older. Are you really going to gouge us like this?

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3206311/#Comment_3206311

Why didn't they handle it like World of Warcraft?
(0): Hairstyle/Ornaments/Beards are in-game gold. - Even the same with Final Fantasy XIV's Aesthetician! Should've followed through with the original immersive plan!
(1): Name Change (500) Crowns
(2): Name Change + Appearance Change (750 Crowns)
(3): Name Change + Appearance Change + Race Change (1250 Crowns)

Edit: One of my biggest rants is that: lets tell a quick story.
I came from Final Fantasy XIV and I'm looking to come back. I buy 3 Fantasias (A.K.A. Race Change/Appearance Change) for $20.00 US. 3 Seperate times to completely design a whole new race for $20.00! I come back and lurk the forums because I heard that ZoS was introducing appearance change options.

Edit: I almost forgot (too upset) to display my opinion! I have several varying opinions but all will say: No I do not agree with the prices.
For one, I would be content with the prices if they came in bundles like @Xael mentions in his above quote. Secondly, I believe ZenimaxOnline Studios will make more money selling these Tokens at a lowered cost because they would be more readily accessible (more people would be willing to buy it everyday) rather than having an inflated cost where only a couple will buy it every once in a while. I jumped on the ZoS hype train and I jumped off and landed in a pit of anger. I am not willing to buy Crowns TWICE to get one Name Change and one Race Change (5500 Crowns). These prices are attrocious and a huge slap to anyone that has vouched and waited for a way to get or buy a Race or Appearance Change or even a Name Change.
Not only that, I started Day 1 Early Release and I was there for the dreaded No Zoom In Bug while in Character Creation. Having to pay 1000 Crowns just to redo my fudged up 1st day Character is an insult by Zenimax (which they are also responsible for this bug) and for not keeping their promise of having an in-game barber that could be bought with gold is an even bigger insult. If we let ZoS get away with selling these Tokens at this price we may as well have spent money for the "costume" they called Breton Hero.

Edit: So I learned that they are introducing a Race/Appearance and Name Change bundle for 3500 Crowns - $40.00. My problemis that it is only 1 Charge. Final Fantasy spoiled me with 3 Race/Appearance for $20.00 and an infinite amount In-Game Gold Barber shop system. I can get 1 Name Change and 3 Race Changes with $40.00, so I feel that this is a cash scam for those that rolled perfectly viable races in 1.0-1.5 that turned to cash-grab Crown Store 1.6 where your race determined your class -Argonians, Bretons, Nords, Imperial i'm looking at you.
Edited by Samuel_Bantien on July 28, 2016 12:41AM
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Would You Buy Any of the Style Parlor Tokens? 191 votes

Yes, explain.
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No, explain.
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Samuel's Idea Brings Back my Immersion. (No Explanation)
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  • Abeille
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    Yes, explain.
    I'm going to buy that Tousled Bard hairstyle and the subtle black lashes because they look good on my characters. The hairstyle is going to be worn by my vampire, and the lashes by all of my characters that can wear it except for my Bosmer (she has antlers, and they bug with the lashes).

    That's it.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • zardenurghanb14_ESO
    only thing im getting is a name change
  • KramUzibra
    KramUzibra
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    Yes, explain.
    I will buy so many!!! All hair styles! All accessories! I love eso!
  • wayfarerx
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    Yes, explain.
    I plan on buying a couple appearance change tokens to tweak some of my launch characters that don't look just the way I'd like, so I'm only on the hook for a couple months of sub worth of crowns.

    If I had been planning on doing any name or race changes I probably would have voted differently.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • FullBlownBeast
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    No, explain.
    Na, if those prices were about 33-35% lower then all would be good. This is just a calculated amount they believe will make the most money from w/e stats they have. Nothing to do with preventing to many people from changing, or not allowing people to do it on a whim or any of that bs people make up.
    Plain and Simple
  • theher0not
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    No, explain.
    I am not spending 200 crowns just to remove the tiara(unless I have some over at some point), and that is the ONLY thing I don't like about my main.
  • natewook
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    No, explain.
    two words can explain, and truthfully it brings me to tears as I've been waiting for this for months: too expensive.
    sometimes I'll take subjects to far and ask for an arm, leg and maybe an eye, please be patent with me.
    remember this thread people: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/193736/should-eso-turn-up-the-heat-aka-gore-revisited/p1
    necromancer? why I've neve- I would never do such a thing! XD
  • Holycannoli
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    BigBragg wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    These changes are not something that are supposed to be bought every day. The high prices will keep the changes limited.

    Why do changes need to be kept limited?

    They don't
  • Edziu
    Edziu
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    No, explain.
    no....as someone wo working in country with weaker currency.....to expensive...nty, I dont want spend that much money for this small......faster I will spend 2x more or much more money just for alco than for that expensive crap. thank you
  • rhapsodious
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    Yes, explain.
    Appearance is reasonable and I'll be tweaking my 2+ year old main who ended up looking off to how I thought I was making her. No name changes or race changes for me at that price.
  • mihaiisraging
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    These Prices Ruin My Immersion! (No Explanation) - No.
    If you are a vampire you will be ugly no matter what
  • disintegr8
    disintegr8
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    No, explain.
    None of these are must have items, so I will not buy them as I do not need them.
    Australian on PS4 NA server.
    Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
  • Vipstaakki
    Vipstaakki
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    No, explain.
    I am content with my character's class, race, hair and literally everything else. I don't need a style parlor.
  • rhapsodious
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    Yes, explain.
    If you are a vampire you will be ugly no matter what

    I think my vampire is cute :<
    izE5TDz.png

    I'll probably end up buying the hair pack, though, since I also think that's reasonably priced even if the resources were already there. Better than ponying up $10 every time I want to change a hairstyle.
  • leepalmer95
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    No, explain.
    I'm not paying more crowns for a race change than for a dlc.

    I usually don't buy dlc's, because price and i'm not fond of pve.

    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • leeux
    leeux
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    No, explain.
    I don't think an explanation is needed.

    It obvious that the prices are ridiculous high, and even if I already have the crowns due to ESO+, I don't intend in expending them with this kind of pricing practices.

    PC/NA - Proud old member of the Antique Ordinatus Populus

    My chars
    Liana Amnell (AD mSorc L50+, ex EP) =x= Lehnnan Klennett (AD mTemplar L50+ Healer/Support ) =x= Ethim Amnell (AD mDK L50+, ex DC)
    Leinwyn Valaene (AD mSorc L50+) =x= Levus Artorias (AD mDK-for-now L50+) =x= Madril Ulessen (AD mNB L50+) =x= Lyra Amnis (AD not-Stamplar-yet L50+)
    I only PvP on AD chars

    ~~ «And blossoms anew beneath tomorrow's sun >>»
    ~~ «I am forever swimming around, amidst this ocean world we call home... >>»
    ~~ "Let strength be granted so the world might be mended... so the world might be mended."
    ~~ "Slash the silver chain that binds thee to life"
    ~~ Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the dawn. >>
    ~~ The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change >>
  • Neirymn
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    No, explain.
    I'll pass, this is too expensive. I'll take my time when I create a new character to be sure not to have to waste that much money just to redo my hair color and re-roll if needed.

    As a subscriber I have to save crowns for two months to get a name or race change? I want to buy something else with my crowns, I have a lot of them from a crown sale but won't waste them on this.

    Yet, I would be ok with those prices if there was a NPC that allows me to change my hair style and color, make up and adornments as often as I want with in game gold. I'm fine with a complete appearance change costing crowns but there should be an immersive way to do what we can actually do by going to a "barber shop" (No sex, ears size or voice changes for example).

    I might buy the premium hair styles and stuff, though. ;)
  • RebornV3x
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    No, explain.
    Maybe but the price is a little much but I have a good job so its not really a problem but still why does something like a race change cost more that a whole DLC something I expect to expensive
    Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
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