Xenophobia in ESO

Korah_Eaglecry

I demand that in the description of players characters that the characters be called by their proper racial name. Currently my Altmers race is listed as High Elf in the games loading screen and the Character Sheet. This is unacceptable ZOS. For a company that decided to cleanse any sort of perceived racism from quests like the one in Stonefalls where an Argonian saves Dunmer, who balk at the idea of an Argonian helping them, I expect a better approach to racial relations in this game.

Signed,

Enrerion Aedihle.

KochDerDamonen

Well, considering this game's place on the TES timeline, and the status of racial relations in future games... No? The races of Tamriel spite eachother and spite begets spite. It ain't pretty but it's gritty, and that's how I like my elder scrolls. Your 'hero' might just be a cannibal that kicks puppies for fun.

Korah_Eaglecry

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

Well, considering this game's place on the TES timeline, and the status of racial relations in future games... No? The races of Tamriel spite eachother and spite begets spite. It ain't pretty but it's gritty, and that's how I like my elder scrolls. Your 'hero' might just be a cannibal that kicks puppies for fun.

wut?

UltimaJoe777

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

ShedsHisTail

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

I think he's aware of that, he's just asking that the "Mer" names whih the races self-identify as be listed at character creation rather than the humanized translations.

Altmer don't call themselves High Elves, they call themselves Altmer. Humans call Altmer, and other Mer, Elves.

Korah_Eaglecry

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

Here let me lay it out real simple for ya.

Racial names given by Humans and other races but not actually used by the respective races themselves:

High Elf
Dark Elf
Wood Elf
Sea Elf
Orcs
Snow Elf
Dwarves

An Altmer is not going to call himself or another of his race High Elf. A Dunmer is not going to call himself a Dark Elf and so forth.

As for that sad attempt to insinuate that I dont know much about Elder Scrolls. Take that childish nonsense back to the hole you crawled out of.

rhapsodious

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

I think he's aware of that, he's just asking that the "Mer" names whih the races self-identify as be listed at character creation rather than the humanized translations.

Altmer don't call themselves High Elves, they call themselves Altmer. Humans call Altmer, and other Mer, Elves.

I understand the point, but I swear I've heard a few Dunmer refer to themselves as Dark Elves. Plus, there's miss "WUT. AVINT YEW EVA SEEN A WUD EWF BEFOW" in the Mournhold crafting area. So it's not unheard of, but I guess Altmer would be the most stingy about it, hah.

UltimaJoe777

rhapsodious wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

I think he's aware of that, he's just asking that the "Mer" names whih the races self-identify as be listed at character creation rather than the humanized translations.

Altmer don't call themselves High Elves, they call themselves Altmer. Humans call Altmer, and other Mer, Elves.

I understand the point, but I swear I've heard a few Dunmer refer to themselves as Dark Elves. Plus, there's miss "WUT. AVINT YEW EVA SEEN A WUD EWF BEFOW" in the Mournhold crafting area. So it's not unheard of, but I guess Altmer would be the most stingy about it, hah.

Did some checking around and there are elves that refer to each other by mer names but I don't believe they ALL do to be honest. Just depends.

ShedsHisTail

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

Here let me lay it out real simple for ya.

Racial names given by Humans and other races but not actually used by the respective races themselves:

High Elf
Dark Elf
Wood Elf
Sea Elf
Orcs
Snow Elf
Dwarves

An Altmer is not going to call himself or another of his race High Elf. A Dunmer is not going to call himself a Dark Elf and so forth.

As for that sad attempt to insinuate that I dont know much about Elder Scrolls. Take that childish nonsense back to the hole you crawled out of.

Well, Lore Wise, you'll find that as far back in the 2nd Age and earlier, many Mer did self-identify as elves.
It's easily visible in the number of texts from Arena and Daggerfall. Of course, this is because the lore-writers didn't come up with the whole "mer" idea until the development of Morrowind.

kojou

Also my Bosmer hates being called a "Female Bosmer", because it sounds like you are referring to an animal. She would like people to to use Bosmere when referring to males and Bosmera when referring to females.

Thanks

rhapsodious

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

I think he's aware of that, he's just asking that the "Mer" names whih the races self-identify as be listed at character creation rather than the humanized translations.

Altmer don't call themselves High Elves, they call themselves Altmer. Humans call Altmer, and other Mer, Elves.

I understand the point, but I swear I've heard a few Dunmer refer to themselves as Dark Elves. Plus, there's miss "WUT. AVINT YEW EVA SEEN A WUD EWF BEFOW" in the Mournhold crafting area. So it's not unheard of, but I guess Altmer would be the most stingy about it, hah.

Same here really. In fact, I don't think I EVER see the mer names appear in normal conversation in Tamriel by ANY race. It is usually only used in scholastic terminology.

The quote in my signature is from Vicecanon Hrondar in Shadowfen, heh. They're definitely used interchangeably in game.

UltimaJoe777

rhapsodious wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

rhapsodious wrote: »

ShedsHisTail wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

You don't know much about The Elder Scrolls do you? Every Elven race goes by 2 names: Their -mer name and what that translates to.

Altmer means High Elf
Dunmer means Dark Elf
Bosmer means Wood Elf
Maormer means Sea Elf (basically)
Orsimer is what they call Orcs
Falmer means Snow Elf

And so on...

I think he's aware of that, he's just asking that the "Mer" names whih the races self-identify as be listed at character creation rather than the humanized translations.

Altmer don't call themselves High Elves, they call themselves Altmer. Humans call Altmer, and other Mer, Elves.

I understand the point, but I swear I've heard a few Dunmer refer to themselves as Dark Elves. Plus, there's miss "WUT. AVINT YEW EVA SEEN A WUD EWF BEFOW" in the Mournhold crafting area. So it's not unheard of, but I guess Altmer would be the most stingy about it, hah.

Same here really. In fact, I don't think I EVER see the mer names appear in normal conversation in Tamriel by ANY race. It is usually only used in scholastic terminology.

The quote in my signature is from Vicecanon Hrondar in Shadowfen, heh. They're definitely used interchangeably in game.

Yeah I edited my post after doing a bit of digging.

raidentenshu_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

I demand that in the description of players characters that the characters be called by their proper racial name. Currently my Altmers race is listed as High Elf in the games loading screen and the Character Sheet. This is unacceptable ZOS. For a company that decided to cleanse any sort of perceived racism from quests like the one in Stonefalls where an Argonian saves Dunmer, who balk at the idea of an Argonian helping them, I expect a better approach to racial relations in this game.

Signed,

Enrerion Aedihle.

I think we should be allowed to enslaved the argonians and force them to shine up our shoes and magical staffs. They should be forced to work for their masters. Also they should have their tails cut off each year to serve as a main dish on a silver platter and their eggs be taken away to serve for food preservatives.

Korah_Eaglecry

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

I demand that in the description of players characters that the characters be called by their proper racial name. Currently my Altmers race is listed as High Elf in the games loading screen and the Character Sheet. This is unacceptable ZOS. For a company that decided to cleanse any sort of perceived racism from quests like the one in Stonefalls where an Argonian saves Dunmer, who balk at the idea of an Argonian helping them, I expect a better approach to racial relations in this game.

Signed,

Enrerion Aedihle.

I think we should be allowed to enslaved the argonians and force them to shine up our shoes and magical staffs. They should be forced to work for their masters. Also they should have their tails cut off each year to serve as a main dish on a silver platter and their eggs be taken away to serve for food preservatives.

Yynril would agree with the first half of that. Though hes not sure Argonian tails would be consumable. And why eat an egg that could provide another slave?


Bathes-In-Coin on the other hand would silently fund your unfortunate end for returning his people to slavery.

Sunver

If that is not troll thread, what is? A great potency for racial heat here.

The game is what it is - a game. If you translate what you do in game to life - you should seek help. We play GTA or Mafia or whatever and do you see any sane people jumping into trucks/cars slamming pedestrians after a few hours playing? No.

I think this thread should be immediately closed and OP banned from forums for a few days, to cool down.

jedtb16_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

I demand that in the description of players characters that the characters be called by their proper racial name. Currently my Altmers race is listed as High Elf in the games loading screen and the Character Sheet. This is unacceptable ZOS. For a company that decided to cleanse any sort of perceived racism from quests like the one in Stonefalls where an Argonian saves Dunmer, who balk at the idea of an Argonian helping them, I expect a better approach to racial relations in this game.

Signed,

Enrerion Aedihle.

hmmmm....

/thinks.... some people have far too much time on their hands

Cazzy

Is it not the same as calling myself Caucasian/White? There's a "proper" (or legal) term and a layman's term.

CherryCake

I dont really care but I will leave my signature since other people didnt sign:

Eluviar approves.

dem0n1k

The game was made by humans so you get the human description, you uppity ancestor-worshipping, pointy-eared ELF !@#

Appleblade

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

Also my Bosmer hates being called a "Female Bosmer", because it sounds like you are referring to an animal.

Nah, that would be Bosmare. The Veiled Inheritance were fond of that one.

#merlivesmatter

threefarms

Redguard lives don't matter.

Signed, Joruun Skald King
High King of the Ebonheart Pact.

XHandsomexJackX

You can always start a rally in game and try to block the roads in tamriel but people might literally run right through you.

KhajiitiLizard

XHandsomexJackX wrote: »

You can always start a rally in game and try to block the roads in tamriel but people might literally run right through you.

Lack of collision detection between players... LOL

Verbalinkontinenz

sry didnt get your problem. the racial difference to me are quite important for the game - for all elder scrolls games - and could be used in the end like a moral compass. racial differences between the mer and men, between animal races and mer and slavery always lead into war and destruction. and in the end you are in any way in this story a neutral centrum, which grows relation to people from everywhere, so you are planned by zos as a person with higher moral standards than some npc. so what are u whining about?

Slammer99uk

You demand! - Yeah like that *** is gonna fly

SantieClaws

Khajiit does not approve. This one she will call the elves exactly what she wishes!

How about Snooty Ears?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

MattT1988

OP I'm guessing this was an attempt at satire. You get a 'meh' from me.

Tan9oSuccka

I just wish an Altmer variant existed:

ZOS_DaryaK

Demands are technically against our community rules, however we'll leave this thread open as we believe it was meant to be tongue in cheek.

While many players, including most of those who posted here, are well versed in Tamriel's lore, most are not. This is why the "human" terminology for the varied races are used instead of their preferred names.