Do you want to see Gear level increased to CP 180?

Bigevilpeter

Personally I would vote No, cause increasing gear level would only increase grinding for no other purpose other than just grinding, all my characters will have to get new gear and would probably be too much time and effort for me and just quit.

I also want to know those who want to increase the gear level what is their point of view.

This is just a tag for the ZOS team in case they were thinking about it to see what the community thinks.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

OrphanHelgen

Yes (State your reasons)

Because I easily gets bored I think Want stuff. Much new. Such fun.

Mashille

No (state your reasons)

Sick of Grinding Mats and feeling like I wasted Gold Mats on my previous Gear.

I don't want to have spent hours farming large amount of Rubedite, Rebedo Leather and Ancestor Silk for nothing either.

Easily_Lost

Yes (State your reasons)

If you don't want to grind for the new gear then don't. What happens when the lvl gets up to say CP200 plus, would you want the gear to be raised then?

LadyNalcarya

No (state your reasons)

Farming everything all over again? Hell no.
It wouldnt even make any sense since they're upgrading all old trials to cp160 and making them obsolete immediately would be just plain stupid.

RebornV3x

No (state your reasons)

No no to the no no just no

Bigevilpeter

No (state your reasons)

Just found this apparently datamined , regardless of what it is, its probably for PTS, but it's CP 180 so they are probably thinking about it, I really hope they change their minds

Rex-Umbra

Yes (State your reasons)

With Vollenfell as once a year is fair and will get the economy going again.

Docmandu

No (state your reasons)

BIG FAT NO!

Playing to have fun != grinding gear.

If you want that, go to WoW/BDO/...

Niaver

No (state your reasons)

Nope. Only if with really big update, like WoW does.
But i want to get new content, not to go to old dungeons in order to get the same helm but 180cp instead of 160cp.

code65536

No (state your reasons)

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

Niaver

No (state your reasons)

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Kalifas

No (state your reasons)

Screw quarterly ilvl. I want new gear coming every 9-12 months so I can enjoy current gear some.

AmberLaTerra

Yes (State your reasons)

Yes, though with a but.

Only if they allow us to upgrade items we already have using mats. If they will not add that feature then no.

Blackbird_V

No (state your reasons)

I'm not spending another 245 000g + on ingots, tempering mats and traits (albeit cheap). I am not. doing. that. again.

Torbschka

No (state your reasons)

NO, holy *** i grinded the cp 160 shroud of the lich set for 12h straight *** I will never do dat again

Nifty2g

No (state your reasons)

pls no. do not want to do vma grind

BruhItsOver9000

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Just found this apparently datamined , regardless of what it is, its probably for PTS, but it's CP 180 so they are probably thinking about it, I really hope they change their minds

WTF.

C0wrex

No (state your reasons)

Would suck to grind for more....


HOWEVER.... It would be great if we can upgrade the gear level

ScottK1994

I'm not voting because I don't represent the end game players. I'm CP141. What I dont want to see is a certain block of gear becoming only useful to new players. When we go to 180 yes the 180 stuff would be great and the people who love their gear now will suddenly fall inlove with new pieces but there's another set of gear being created that isn't getting used by them at all.. The 170cp gear!

There's no reason not to have it at CP170 and make the difference in gear seem like 20 levels or even more

Bigevilpeter

No (state your reasons)

C0wrex wrote: »

Would suck to grind for more....


HOWEVER.... It would be great if we can upgrade the gear level

Then why do it in the first place?? What purpose would it serve?

IcyDeadPeople

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same when level and gear cap were increased from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, and all those rare sets they farmed, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm guessing both gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch (so far it has been a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so at least there is no need to grind your alts.

ScottK1994

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

C0wrex wrote: »

Would suck to grind for more....


HOWEVER.... It would be great if we can upgrade the gear level

Then why do it in the first place?? What purpose would it serve?

We get dopamine in our brains from reward? Lol that's why MMOs exist and thrive because it takes advantage of people with addictive dopamine tendencies?

Its one thing as people I'm sure we all have in common, we like the feeling of reward a bit too much

Bigevilpeter

No (state your reasons)

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same with the increase of the level and gear cap from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm pretty sure the gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch ( a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so no need to grind your alts anymore.

that is not entirely true, Vet levels were increased because newer higher level areas were introduced, with one Tamriel this will all be moot, so no reason at all to increase Gear level, also most people will already be at max level as soon as it hits, so they just have to refarm everything again for no reason.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

No (state your reasons)

No purely because of armour. Imagine having to get all your Undanuted Monster heads and shoulders AGAIN? Screw that.

Then Maelstrom Weapons, jewellery? There's to much grind, would take to long and I don't want to grind content that's already been grinded.

ScottK1994

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same with the increase of the level and gear cap from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm pretty sure the gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch ( a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so no need to grind your alts anymore.

that is not entirely true, Vet levels were increased because newer higher level areas were introduced, with one Tamriel this will all be moot, so no reason at all to increase Gear level, also most people will already be at max level as soon as it hits, so they just have to refarm everything again for no reason.

So you think New areas won't be introduced?

C0wrex

No (state your reasons)

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

C0wrex wrote: »

Would suck to grind for more....


HOWEVER.... It would be great if we can upgrade the gear level

Then why do it in the first place?? What purpose would it serve?

Fine... no fun...

code65536

No (state your reasons)

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same when level and gear cap were increased from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm guessing both gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch (so far it has been a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so no need to grind your alts anymore.

The key difference is that the game has become much grindier since those days.

Crafting a VR14 piece costs a mere 4 extra mats compared to a VR10 piece, instead of an order of magnitude more like VR15->VR16.

Much of the old content dropped gear in fixed traits. Now they drop in a wide range of random traits.

And the vMA RNG grind. Look at all the threads QQing about farming vMA weapons and the people who have stopped playing out of anger over that. Imagine, then, forcing everyone to do that again. Hell no.

Bigevilpeter

No (state your reasons)

ScottK1994 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same with the increase of the level and gear cap from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm pretty sure the gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch ( a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so no need to grind your alts anymore.

that is not entirely true, Vet levels were increased because newer higher level areas were introduced, with one Tamriel this will all be moot, so no reason at all to increase Gear level, also most people will already be at max level as soon as it hits, so they just have to refarm everything again for no reason.

So you think New areas won't be introduced?

New Areas will scale to your level, so it won't make any sense to increase gear level. Every since they introduced this mechanic with IC they haven't increased gear level since it serves no purpose. More so now with the CP system

ScottK1994

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

ScottK1994 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same with the increase of the level and gear cap from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm pretty sure the gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch ( a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so no need to grind your alts anymore.

that is not entirely true, Vet levels were increased because newer higher level areas were introduced, with one Tamriel this will all be moot, so no reason at all to increase Gear level, also most people will already be at max level as soon as it hits, so they just have to refarm everything again for no reason.

So you think New areas won't be introduced?

New Areas will scale to your level, so it won't make any sense to increase gear level. Every since they introduced this mechanic with IC they haven't increased gear level since it serves no purpose. More so now with the CP system

So what about when people get bored of sets etc that exist?

Everyone seems fixed on current gear but what about when they get boring?

IcyDeadPeople

ScottK1994 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

There is no way in bloody hell that I am going to refarm my vMA weapons, my SPC pieces, my divines monster sets, my robust Agility jewelry, my arcane Willpower jewelry, my Vicious Ophidian, etc. If they do that, a lot of endgame players will quit the game.

And people said the same when level and gear cap were increased from V10 to V12, later to V14, and then to V16. There were even a few people on the forums demanding refund of their gold mats, and all those rare sets they farmed, etc.

It's not particularly fun to obtain new gear when it happens, but I'm guessing both gear cap and level cap (spendable champion points) will continue to increase at roughly the same pace since launch (so far it has been a couple levels, or 20-30 CP every 9 months or so).

Increasing the gear cap is the way that new sets, dungeons, etc., get added to the game. I'd be extremely surprised if it ever stopped progressing. Fortunately, now the progression is account wide, so at least there is no need to grind your alts.

that is not entirely true, Vet levels were increased because newer higher level areas were introduced, with one Tamriel this will all be moot, so no reason at all to increase Gear level, also most people will already be at max level as soon as it hits, so they just have to refarm everything again for no reason.

So you think New areas won't be introduced?

Yes, Vvardenfell will probably include whole new tier of mats, which would seem pointless without also increasing the gear cap.