6-8 man dungeons should be added?

Mettaricana

I feel like eso needs a middle ground for players its like solo 4 man then jump to 12 people in a trial. Kinda feels like there should be a 6-8 man dungeon of high difficulty maybe even have boss helm drops etc like maybe a platnium pledge they could be new different enemy deeper expeditions into exsisting veteran dungeons like a room deeper into dark shades or a wall falls out in fungal that takes you even deeper maybe that platform you fight bogdan on snaps off and you and the party plummet into the abyss to find an even greater evil down there. Climb to the top of white gold tower beat kena then enter into the anchor gate for a coldharbor section of dungeon the finally shatter the gate over cyrodiil?

This is not to replace trials so please don't bring trials into this or the normal zos just needs more trials argument plenty of other posts on that.

hrothbern

No

If time, money and human recources are deployed on Raids:
I prefer the coins to be spent on more difficulty levels in general or more 4-12 Raids.

If it is too difficult to organise 12 people, or the jump from 4 to 12 too big:
Do the raid with less people at a lower difficulty level.

Oh... and ZOS should remove the artificial condition to have enough people like for example the 12 in AA

Liofa

Other

I think only issue is difficulty difference between contents . All gold pledges can be doable easily with 4 average DDs but easiest trial will need very good group coordination and decent DPS from all damage dealers . Also hugely supportive healers and tanks . In my opinion , we don't need 6-8 man dungeons but we need content that has mixed difficulty between trials and pledges . Like you said , platinium pledges or as mentioned before in another thread , Nightmare Mode . Not too easy for regular players and not too difficult like trials .

Sadly , this topic mentioned several times but ZOS still nerf easy dungeons and buff harder content . I voted but it is a very slight chance they will even look into this issue

Elsonso

No

... mainly because this way they can focus energy on making new Dungeons and Trials and not have that energy split trying to roll out a middle ground dungeon. In the end, they would still roll out content at the same speed and people who want a specific type of group activity would have to wait longer.

Dracane

I have the distant feeling, the next Arena could be a 2 man arena. Just a guess.
#GiveUsForceShockStaffAlready

Leandor

Other

How about scaling to group size? They have a scaling mechanism now. After the dust settles and the kinks are worked out, why not extend it.

In a year or so, start tackling adding this second layer where 4-mans are extended to be 3 to 6 mans. Most game mechanics could probably stay the same for that range and still be "challenging".

alkodav

Other

i'd like to have some 2-ppl content

Minute_Waltz

Yes

Imo it would be nice to have one or two dungeon designed as middle ground (6-8 ppl) with good group coordination mechanics.

I don't think scaling really works because why would you get 8 ppl to run wgt which might take longer/harder than a 4 man speed run? Same for doing trials in lower difficulty, why bother if it takes 2x longer for same reward?

leandro.800ub17_ESO

I wish you could scale to 2 person or 6 the same current vet dungeons just with a % on health , dmg and number of mobs and bosses increase.
More than 6 in current vet dungeons space is too much.

Leandor

Other

leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »

I wish you could scale to 2 person or 6 the same current vet dungeons just with a % on health , dmg and number of mobs and bosses increase.
More than 6 in current vet dungeons space is too much.

Bear in mind, 2 may be to few for some mechanics that result in incapacitating one player forcing the others to act.

SirCritical

Yes

Yes, and I'd like to see 2-man content also.

potirondb16_ESO

Other

Other ask in asking more 6-8 man content but not necessairly dungeon.

What do I mean:

1. I like the idea of raiding with a combination of 2 tanks, 3 healer and 7 DD. I personnally enjoy the Manticore and the Varsha's Brother mecanics because of that, not only because they do give more importance to tank which is very much needed since tanks is the harder role to find in 4-man content, but also because they don't put all of the challenge on DPS but also on mecannics.

So having Trial content which includes group split or off-tanking or 6/6 man coordination is Something I like.

2. I also like the fact that 6-8 man content could mean open world content with an higher level of difficulty. To give the example of an MMO which I liked, The Secret World, they have Inside each zone an hardcord spot which is only accessible at higher level and which includes better drop and also some special item. Those Hardcord zone are usually raid by small team of 5/6 players and increase the overall end-game experience.

That to me, is a cool way of increasing the overall open-world experience by adding spot which are dedicated for an improve challenge. Could this be made with a revamp of public dongeon which can now be solo (when you have the right gear and cp), I very much like to think so, maybe by adding a veteran public dongeon system in which small team could get there ass-kicked a couple of time).

3. 6-8 man content should also be a target for World-Boss accross Tamriel, the current level of difficulty actually made them 2-man content, which is nice during progression since it is harder to find people, and that they are not rewarding the player enough to justify a full group to be created... but I do believe that the one that appears Inside the new DLC should always be tought as 6-8 mans World-Boss.

Current World Boss of Thieve's guild can actually be solo, (duo with ease, once again if you have a great Partner)

So overall, I'm not sure adding 6-8 man instance is Something that is really interesting because of how the role Inside this game are working (No dedicated CC/No dedicated Pull/ etc.) but I do think that for a great majority of situation the game should have in mind a 6-8 man content. The idea I prefere being the veteran public dongeon.

P.S. I don't know what type of reward those could give... one more skill-point for sure... but maybe also crafting motif, a chest with crafting material, special boon (housing post)

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279105/what-do-you-want-from-player-housing/p2

Niastissa

No

hrothbern wrote: »

If time, money and human recources are deployed on Raids:
I prefer the coins to be spent on more difficulty levels in general or more 4-12 Raids.

If it is too difficult to organise 12 people, or the jump from 4 to 12 too big:
Do the raid with less people at a lower difficulty level.

Oh... and ZOS should remove the artificial condition to have enough people like for example the 12 in AA

I agree

KingShocker

Other

I think it would be awesome for content like this but I would prefer stuff like spell crafting be produced first

Derra

Other

I think a good solution would be to scale trials to groupsize.

Leaderboards only with maximum groupsize. Mechanics stay in place. Only dmg and enemy HP gets scaled with number of players.

To avoid people farming easy loot in a 4 man trial with 12 ppl - bosses only drop 1 item for everyone that was part of the grp when the instance was created. IE: 4 man trial, 12 ppl, 8 don´t get anything on bosskill

James-Wayne

No

I'd love to see some large 32 player battles in the PvP space where there are mechanics like we have on trials but those mechanics work differently with PvP players in, all fighting to complete the objective for the most points... lag aside, it could be instanced like trials just have multiple sides within the instance like a game of capture of the flag (which is a simple example) but include bosses (like Imperial City Sewers). Something that isn't built for a cookie cutter build with DPS, Healer or Tank as MUST requirements... so many possibilities!

Ep1kMalware

Yes

hrothbern wrote: »

If time, money and human recources are deployed on Raids:
I prefer the coins to be spent on more difficulty levels in general or more 4-12 Raids.

If it is too difficult to organise 12 people, or the jump from 4 to 12 too big:
Do the raid with less people at a lower difficulty level.

Oh... and ZOS should remove the artificial condition to have enough people like for example the 12 in AA

totally lol. only thing that stops many players is that damn platform thigs.

Morimizo

Other

I would rather each Dungeon scale to the number of players present, that way, whether you have 2, 3, 5, 7 etc. the challenge can always morph. If anyone gets involuntarily kicked (or by choice, either by themselves or by the group), it doesn't ruin it for the remainder.

Leader boards are just for the 4 and 12s, of course.

Khaos_Bane

12 is too big ?

My god, you should have been around during the original Everquest when there were 72 man raids !!!! That was awesome !!! AND there was no instanced content, so the Top tier guilds would have to coordinated among themselves on who was raiding what and when.

Mettaricana

Yes

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

12 is too big ?

My god, you should have been around during the original Everquest when there were 72 man raids !!!! That was awesome !!! AND there was no instanced content, so the Top tier guilds would have to coordinated among themselves on who was raiding what and when.

Oh I was around during that but eso is just geared for smaller things and more single player oriented but at same time you either know everyone and can run a 12 man trial or you have just barely enough to do a group dungeon.

Shadesofkin

Other

Honestly I think that 8 might not be awful, but I'd prefer it follow the 4,8,12 scheme rather than chucking 6 in there for any reason.

Also, I really would love to see 2 man undaunted instances.

Shadesofkin

Other

Mettaricana wrote: »

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

12 is too big ?

My god, you should have been around during the original Everquest when there were 72 man raids !!!! That was awesome !!! AND there was no instanced content, so the Top tier guilds would have to coordinated among themselves on who was raiding what and when.

Oh I was around during that but eso is just geared for smaller things and more single player oriented but at same time you either know everyone and can run a 12 man trial or you have just barely enough to do a group dungeon.

The only reason my guilds ever run into "not enough players" is because they're doing the trial already with another group.

Amdar_Godkiller

Yes

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Honestly I think that 8 might not be awful, but I'd prefer it follow the 4,8,12 scheme rather than chucking 6 in there for any reason.

Also, I really would love to see 2 man undaunted instances.

That would be awesome! If Craglorn had more of 2 man focus initially, it would be everyone's favorite zone.

We need a new zone like this with 2 man dungeons and 2v2 PVP arenas arenas as well.

Soleya

6 or 8 man dungeons that require 1 healer 1 tank and 6 dps could actually be helpful. There are way more DPS than other roles, would make easier for more people to get in a group.

Shadesofkin

Other

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Honestly I think that 8 might not be awful, but I'd prefer it follow the 4,8,12 scheme rather than chucking 6 in there for any reason.

Also, I really would love to see 2 man undaunted instances.

That would be awesome! If Craglorn had more of 2 man focus initially, it would be everyone's favorite zone.

We need a new zone like this with 2 man dungeons and 2v2 PVP arenas arenas as well.

I maintain that 2 man dungeons as part of the undaunted system would be brilliant and would go a long way towards helping the casual players who like to run with their buddy or significant other.

Mettaricana

Yes

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »

Shadesofkin wrote: »

Honestly I think that 8 might not be awful, but I'd prefer it follow the 4,8,12 scheme rather than chucking 6 in there for any reason.

Also, I really would love to see 2 man undaunted instances.

That would be awesome! If Craglorn had more of 2 man focus initially, it would be everyone's favorite zone.

We need a new zone like this with 2 man dungeons and 2v2 PVP arenas arenas as well.

I maintain that 2 man dungeons as part of the undaunted system would be brilliant and would go a long way towards helping the casual players who like to run with their buddy or significant other.

I can roll with this me and my gf two man everything some golds assuming the boss doesn't have a lock down insta kill like maubeth, fungal shade boss, or switches that need to be opened at same time

ForsakenSin

Yes

VMA 2 man Raid!

Mojmir

Other

only if they scale content

Mady

Other

I want a two man dungeon! Super hard, but with awesome loot!

Kas

No

would prefer 2-man's tbh

Daraugh

Other

Dungeons that scale to group size please.