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ZOS!!! Can you PLEASE FIX Mass Hysteria/Fear!!??
Molag_Crow
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Mass Hysteria/Fear, the Nightblade's CC skill; It shouldn't be able to CC you RIGHT AFTER DODGE ROLLING!
It's stupid, it's unfair, it's ridiculous. Dodge rolling then getting put into AOE CC straight after???? and speaking of breaking free, most of the time it doesn't even let you break free from it til 2-4 seconds later!!!!
As a magicka user with 10% into Tumbling (reduced dodge roll/break free cost) and epic food for around 14k max Stamina isn't even enough most of the time hence why I roll with stamina potions. We need stamina for Sprinting, Blocking, Dodge Rolling, Breaking Free and sneaking already but that's not the point, CC and Break Free should be working as intended!
I'll try and give you as much proof as I can. I only have a few recent clips of this to try my best to show you. It's almost as if the fear CC registers before/while the target is dodge rolling, and then waits until the target has finished dodge rolling so it makes them just stand there like a lemon.
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Edited by Molag_Crow on July 15, 2016 8:40PM It's stupid, it's unfair, it's ridiculous. Dodge rolling then getting put into AOE CC straight after???? and speaking of breaking free, most of the time it doesn't even let you break free from it til 2-4 seconds later!!!!
As a magicka user with 10% into Tumbling (reduced dodge roll/break free cost) and epic food for around 14k max Stamina isn't even enough most of the time hence why I roll with stamina potions. We need stamina for Sprinting, Blocking, Dodge Rolling, Breaking Free and sneaking already but that's not the point, CC and Break Free should be working as intended!
I'll try and give you as much proof as I can. I only have a few recent clips of this to try my best to show you. It's almost as if the fear CC registers before/while the target is dodge rolling, and then waits until the target has finished dodge rolling so it makes them just stand there like a lemon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8fCHAGqr4M@ZOS_GinaBruno /beg
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Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The first clip shows me dodge rolling into fear/being feared before dodge-rolling/being feared while dodge-rolling. It happens ALL the time by the way, it's not a one off thing, fear always registers after you dodge roll unless you don't plan on dodge rolling around the same time you get feared.
The last clip in the video shows that I should have went straight down after hitting the wall but I suddenly bounced off of it due to being in a fear, in mid-air.--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭It's an UN dodgable cc for a reason... that shouldn't change. Now i have experienced the inability to break cc. That needs fixing.16 -
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✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »It's an UN dodgable cc for a reason... that shouldn't change. Now i have experienced the inability to break cc. That needs fixing.
That's just OP if that's intended
seriously????? and yes, definitely agree that breaking free from it needs a serious looking into, but that's what my other topic is about 
so I don't want to get this locked for duping, but yeah it's here somewhere.....
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✭✭✭Crowd Control is Crowd Control man. Also there are lots of things you can't just dodge. Dodging needs limits... Now I'm not a fan of getting feared either but it's legit and it makes you really think about things, not just dodge on impulse.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭The problem with Fear is that sometimes gets bugged and you can't cc break, that MUST be fixed.
For the rest is fine, you have CC inmunity for a reason, you don't need more inmunity from dodge roll, dodgespam is already stupid in this game, don't make it even more powerful.Edited by ManDraKE on July 15, 2016 8:55PM8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Molag_Crow wrote: »Mass Hysteria/Fear, the Nightblade's CC skill; It shouldn't be able to CC you RIGHT AFTER DODGE ROLLING!
It's stupid, it's unfair, it's ridiculous. Dodge rolling then getting put into AOE CC straight after???? and speaking of breaking free, most of the time it doesn't even let you break free from it til 2-4 seconds later!!!!
As a magicka user with 10% into Tumbling (reduced dodge roll/break free cost) and epic food for around 14k max Stamina isn't even enough most of the time hence why I roll with stamina potions. We need stamina for Sprinting, Blocking, Dodge Rolling, Breaking Free and sneaking already but that's not the point, CC and Break Free should be working as intended!
I'll try and give you as much proof as I can. I only have a few recent clips of this to try my best to show you. It's almost as if the fear CC registers before/while the target is dodge rolling, and then waits until the target has finished dodge rolling so it makes them just stand there like a lemon.
@ZOS_GinaBruno /beg
@Molag_Crow
Haha! The great Crow, what's shaking bro?
But yeah, I've been complaining about Mass Hysteria and things NB's could do. And everyone just laughed it off, and said "Learn2Play Champ." M'hm! And now more and more people are catching on to what I've been saying about the Nigtblade class; both in-game and on the forums. 1 -
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✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »And I've been feared right through a solid wall on a couple of occasions.
I can verify this. Boss in Wayrest Sewers feared my tank right through the door he was guarding lol
Every enemy chasing me walked right through it to get to me too.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »And I've been feared right through a solid wall on a couple of occasions.
I can verify this. Boss in Wayrest Sewers feared my tank right through the door he was guarding lol
Every enemy chasing me walked right through it to get to me too.
I get feared out of keep towers, completely out of the keep every now and then.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Man, ZOS seriously needs to redo that CC Immunity and Break Free"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Yep, the inability to break free from fear sometimes is ridiculous. And it's not just on a magicka character, btw. My stamina nightblade has around 36k stamina and 1750 stamina regen, and there are times when she can't break free from fear either.
Even if her stam bar is pretty much full. Defo needs to be fixed.DC2 -
Sleep724✭✭✭✭✭Just recorded a video today of getting knocked down by Dawn breaker, getting up then immediately feared with no cc immunity.1
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✭✭Molag_Crow wrote: »Mass Hysteria/Fear, the Nightblade's CC skill; It shouldn't be able to CC you RIGHT AFTER DODGE ROLLING!
It's stupid, it's unfair, it's ridiculous. Dodge rolling then getting put into AOE CC straight after???? and speaking of breaking free, most of the time it doesn't even let you break free from it til 2-4 seconds later!!!!
As a magicka user with 10% into Tumbling (reduced dodge roll/break free cost) and epic food for around 14k max Stamina isn't even enough most of the time hence why I roll with stamina potions. We need stamina for Sprinting, Blocking, Dodge Rolling, Breaking Free and sneaking already but that's not the point, CC and Break Free should be working as intended!
I'll try and give you as much proof as I can. I only have a few recent clips of this to try my best to show you. It's almost as if the fear CC registers before/while the target is dodge rolling, and then waits until the target has finished dodge rolling so it makes them just stand there like a lemon.
@ZOS_GinaBruno /beg
@Molag_Crow
Haha! The great Crow, what's shaking bro? But yeah, I've been complaining about Mass Hysteria and things NB's could do. And everyone just laughed it off, and said "Learn2Play Champ." M'hm! And now more and more people are catching on to what I've been saying about the Nigtblade class; both in-game and on the forums.
Yes Champ! the truth has to be spoken! sooo many people say they can't break free from fear a lot of the time too, so it's no "l2p issue"
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LBxFinalDeath✭✭✭✭Know what else is unfair?
The fact that talons locks you in place even if they don't have line of sight on you and that it doesn't give CC immunity.
Reverb+Talons = Dead.
Have a slight hunch someone is near you...spam talons and you'll lock them in place even if they are behind a wall/rock etc.
Also know whats unfair?
Zergling Templars who sit behind their zerg with a 24/7 radiant destruction on you.
Every class needs rebalancing tbh.Edited by LBxFinalDeath on July 16, 2016 1:23AM3 -
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✭LBxFinalDeath wrote: »Know what else is unfair?
The fact that talons locks you in place even if they don't have line of sight on you and that it doesn't give CC immunity.
Reverb+Talons = Dead.
Have a slight hunch someone is near you...spam talons and you'll lock them in place even if they are behind a wall/rock etc.
Also know whats unfair?
Zergling Templars who sit behind their zerg with a 24/7 radiant destruction on you.
Every class needs rebalancing tbh.
It's also CCs not just fear. I got hit by the Templar javelin and couldn't get up, petrify is also bad because it makes me cc break twice sometimes. Dizzying swing, dbos they all are broken. Not to mention sometimes I don't get cc immunity.0 -
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✭✭i'm not sure all the classes can withstand much more 'rebalancing' as it tends to break more than it fixes and fixes far too much that was never broken.
be careful what you wish for.
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✭✭✭If CC's are really hanging you up to dry because of late maneuvers or what ever, take a look into buying a reactive set from IC.1 -
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Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »
Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.
Nightblades aren't the best class right now (in either PVP or PVE)? What? They're balanced? Word? Lol.
Okay. We must be seeing 2 totally different things in PVP, in terms of which class is used the most (and the reasons why). Not to mention which class makes VMA easy mode. But, to each's own. We're all entitled to our opinions. Nonetheless, something definitely needs to be done about Mass Hysteria.Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 16, 2016 2:23AM0 -
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✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »
Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.
Nightblades aren't the best class right now (in either PVP or PVE)? What? They're balanced? Word? Lol.
Okay. We must be seeing 2 totally different things in PVP, in terms of which class is used the most (and the reasons why). Not to mention which class makes VMA easy mode. But, to each's own. We're all entitled to our opinions. Nonetheless, something definitely needs to be done about Mass Hysteria.
Hey Champ, not to critical of your opinion but can you really name the last time a NB won a dueling tournament? I can't think of any since 1.5 myself. I could be off so correct me if I'm wrong.1 -
xxslam48xxb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭It looks like you didn't have enough stamina to break free tbh. In that first clip anyways and the second one you derped off an edge idk what other outcome you expected. I know if I rolled off an edge I would expect to die on my nb, are you used to surviving that?Edited by xxslam48xxb14_ESO on July 16, 2016 2:45AMI wrote a poem that I titled, "The ganker's delight."
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✭✭xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »It looks like you didn't have enough stamina to break free tbh.
I know I didn't but that wasn't the point, I dodge rolled and couldn't break free and I never knew it was intended, because that's just silly imo... dodge rolling attacks and CCs to then get CC'd by an AOE CC that only one class has (unless werewolf? but the chances of that are slim)--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »
Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.
Nightblades aren't the best class right now (in either PVP or PVE)? What? They're balanced? Word? Lol.
Okay. We must be seeing 2 totally different things in PVP, in terms of which class is used the most (and the reasons why). Not to mention which class makes VMA easy mode. But, to each's own. We're all entitled to our opinions. Nonetheless, something definitely needs to be done about Mass Hysteria.
Hey Champ, not to critical of your opinion but can you really name the last time a NB won a dueling tournament? I can't think of any since 1.5 myself. I could be off so correct me if I'm wrong.
I do not attend dueling tournaments, so I could not give you a factual and honest answer on that. Apologies.
I can only go off of and base my opinions around personal experience with the class (from both a magicka and stamina perspective), as well as other people's data and experiences they've provided to me. Edited by Ch4mpTW on July 16, 2016 3:03AM0 -
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✭thankyourat wrote: »kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »
Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.
Nightblades aren't the best class right now (in either PVP or PVE)? What? They're balanced? Word? Lol.
Okay. We must be seeing 2 totally different things in PVP, in terms of which class is used the most (and the reasons why). Not to mention which class makes VMA easy mode. But, to each's own. We're all entitled to our opinions. Nonetheless, something definitely needs to be done about Mass Hysteria.
Well the most played class is nightblade closely followed by Templar. But that's because nightblade is just fun for a lot people. The most effective class in PvP is stam dk. it just has too much sustain and healing, every dueling tournament I've ever been apart of or watched has been won by a stam dk with the worse being magicka nightblade. And as for VMA magicka sorc is just as good as magblade, but yes mass hysteria needs to be looked at along with every cc in the game. I'm tired of unbreakable CCs1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »
Nightblades are the only balanced class power builds go down in a few hit. Tania do little damage. Now miss changes and recovery stacking is not unique to Nightblades. The class skill lines are pretty well balanced with itself.
Nightblades aren't the best class right now (in either PVP or PVE)? What? They're balanced? Word? Lol.
Okay. We must be seeing 2 totally different things in PVP, in terms of which class is used the most (and the reasons why). Not to mention which class makes VMA easy mode. But, to each's own. We're all entitled to our opinions. Nonetheless, something definitely needs to be done about Mass Hysteria.
Well the most played class is nightblade closely followed by Templar. But that's because nightblade is just fun for a lot people. The most effective class in PvP is stam dk. it just has too much sustain and healing, every dueling tournament I've ever been apart of or watched has been won by a stam dk with the worse being magicka nightblade. And as for VMA magicka sorc is just as good as magblade, but yes mass hysteria needs to be looked at along with every cc in the game. I'm tired of unbreakable CCs
Mass hysteria is not a un breakable CC . Break Free does work on it . It's an unavoidable CC . Just like a lot of AOE attacks are unavoidable unless you get out of area before the attack . It's not witchcraft . Well ... Maybe to some people .0