[PLEASE] Split the Pledges of ICP, WGT and Shadows of The Hist

MaKTaiL

Ever since Imperial City the Undaunted Pladges for the new dungeons have been merged into one. You get the pledge and you have the option to do it on Normal or Veteran. Guess what NOBODY does? Play it on Normal. Result: I never got to play it. I'm a casual player so I often use Group Finder. I've been able to beat all the other dungeons just fine so far but my experience with ICP and WGT on Group Finder has been horrible.

I queue for the Normal version: not one soul
I queue for the Veteran version: at least one guy leaves right at the start and the others soon follow and I have to wait 15min to queue again.

If WGT and ICP had a Normal Pledge (only) everything would be different, here is why:

Having a normal pledge for both of them would encourage people to learn the mechanics of the new dungeons with ease before atempting the Veteran version. The most experienced players would be able to help as well since the Veteran Pledge of the day would be a different dungeon and they would do both (I usually do both pledges everyday, except when ICP and WGT come up). As a casual player I just wanna be able to have fun on the dungeon on Normal and experience the story behind it.

Anyway, I think a lot of the frustration and the idea that ICP and WGT are hard would be fixed if the pledges were separated. The new dungeons will definitely suffer the same unless they change it. Why bother buying something that I'll never be able to play it? I regret buying Imperial CIty since then.

redspecter23

See about tracking down a good PvE dungeon guild. They can help you do the vet version or at least get a group for normal version. The group finder is a good tool, but isn't the best source of improving your play skill or finding others that want to learn and improve together.

MaKTaiL

redspecter23 wrote: »

See about tracking down a good PvE dungeon guild. They can help you do the vet version or at least get a group for normal version.

I don't wanna be forced to join a guild for this. Like I said, I'm a casual player. I wanna be able to enjoy the new dungeons using group finder just like I do with the other ones. Why can't they split the pledges? It's simple and won't hurt anyone.

imnotanother

It can be done with the group finder. I did the last 2 days through it.

I know you don't want to join a guild but send me a friend invite and I'll help if you need a DPS

daemonios

MaKTaiL wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

See about tracking down a good PvE dungeon guild. They can help you do the vet version or at least get a group for normal version.

I don't wanna be forced to join a guild for this. Like I said, I'm a casual player. I wanna be able to enjoy the new dungeons using group finder just like I do with the other ones. Why can't they split the pledges? It's simple and won't hurt anyone.

I have nothing against having normal pledges for the harder dungeons, in fact I agreed with your first post.

That said, I really think you should consider being more social in this game. In most guilds you don't have to be online everyday, you don't have to follow schedules and you don't have to prove some sort of ability beforehand. And you'll find it much easier to get a group to guide you through harder content.

LFG tool is nice if you really don't care who you play with. But LFG groups are going to have a much harder time doing those dungeons, and I doubt any of them would complete a trial, even the outdated ones.

disintegr8

I have gone into normal WGT and completed it via random group finder, so know that there are some people who run it. Making it part of the daily cycle would help and would also assist people with learning it before being deemed too incompetent for the vet version. I know they would still be hard to complete but failure should help you get better.

Unfortunately for people who have specific 'unfinished' content in this game they wish to complete but cannot do alone, or cannot get done using random dungeon/group finder, there is no alternative than to find friends or join a guild. Expecting the game to provide you with a way to complete it is not going to work.

willymchilybily

You still need to know mechanics to run normal. They just have to be experienced for less time, because of enemy health. so can be done more easily. The risk is normal can be very easy and you can skip a lot of mechanics with average dps. And still never learn.

But I see no reason not to have a normal versions it will help people learn, or allow them the experience of the dungeon at least

Totalitarian

I wish WGT and ICP had pledges availible from Maj.

Mainly because they're a good excuse for experienced Dungeon Delvers like myself to run them with inexperienced players, and not get frustrated because I won't finish the pledge because the group hasn't done the dungeon before.

Then after a few runs, they'd be ready for vet mode.


Plus, 2 extra pledges from Maj, cool pledges.

MaKTaiL

Totalitarian wrote: »

I wish WGT and ICP had pledges availible from Maj.

Mainly because they're a good excuse for experienced Dungeon Delvers like myself to run them with inexperienced players, and not get frustrated because I won't finish the pledge because the group hasn't done the dungeon before.

Then after a few runs, they'd be ready for vet mode.


Plus, 2 extra pledges from Maj, cool pledges.

Exactly.

AlnilamE

OP, I don't know what server you are on, but I never bother to do the pledges on Veteran. I always do them on Normal.
Far less stressful and more fun. But I do usually run it with guildies.

I do however queue for them sometimes just because I want the tokens.

Smileybones

AlnilamE wrote: »

OP, I don't know what server you are on, but I never bother to do the pledges on Veteran. I always do them on Normal.
Far less stressful and more fun. But I do usually run it with guildies.

I do however queue for them sometimes just because I want the tokens.

Me too and I don't care for some extra % damage with the monster thingies when I can faceroll most dungeons.

Also monster stuff is plain ugly, I don't get why people don't hide their helmets