Fix Dragon's Blood Please

MaxwellC

Can we get a fix for Dragon's Blood.. Please?
The skill is already the worst self healing skill in the game, it doesn't top you off and only heals 33% of your missing health. So if I'm missing 10k of my health outside of PvP i'll only heal 33% of that and in PvP since battle spirit takes hold of it, it's around 16.5% of my missing health which is utterly garbage.

Potions do not stack with the skills buff that it provides i.e. Major endurance, Major fortitude,etc; if you try to use a potion while it's active, the buff will simply be over-written by the potion and if you use dragon's blood again it'll just over-write the potions buff.

Green dragons blood is also a joke in it's self since it only increases your stamina recovery instead of just giving a flat rate of stamina back.

The cost for a skill that doesn't even heal you based on your max health is incredibly high, I believe with all passives and 100 CP into Magician (minus and spell reduce glyphs) it sits around 3.3k and if you're a stamina player it's 4.3k. The skill is already so bad and the cost in it's self make it just as bad.

Suggestions:
Coagulated Blood: Dragon's blood now becomes a Heal over time ability that scales off your max magicka resource and provides all it's current buffs (increased recovery/healing received).

Green Dragon's blood: Dragon's blood now restores the vigor within you restoring x amount of stamina over time and providing increased healing received/minor endurance. I would like for it to also be stamina based but that's just me.

Green dragon's blood should have it's cost dropped by 1000 seeing that it'll still be based off of missed health while coag blood should remain the same since it'll be a HoT that can equal rallys HoT.

tinythinker

They've let it go this long, the odds are slim...

MaxwellC

Yeah that's the sad thing about it. I guess in their heads it's fine where it's at and man it really isn't especially for that absurd cost to use a ability that is completely ineffective at keeping you alive unless you use a mixture of other skills which would total the cost over 8k magicka just to get it sub par lol..

Forestd16b14_ESO

Saddly I don't think we be seeing anything happening to dragons blood anytime soon especially those amazing changes to GDB cause some how every one thinks stamina DKs are OP.

Well at least using CDB gives minor vitality and paired up with elder blood that's a 20% healing increase.... So can use that to power up healing springs or vigor...... Trying to find that tiny redeeming quality of DB ok.......

MaxwellC

Yeah people have the delusion that stam DK in PvP is OP but fail to grasp to passives don't save you from any and every situation nor does it give you the advantage in those situations too.

Most stam dks I see don't even use the shield in PvP which is what supposedly makes them OP to begin with.

joshhh_nb

No it shouldnt be buffed, itd be too op a lot of my mag dk friends are tanky as hell, what mag dks should get instead is a boost in dps.

tennant94

I don't understand why zos haven't fixed it, they need new Devs or something. 4.2k base cost and it heals me for like 6-8k when I'm below 10% health and that's with major mending, the 12% and 8% passive boosts, 10% from cps and 8% from heavy armor passives. The most frustrating thing is the heal never pulls me out of execute range so I'm either waiting for burning embers to proc or trying to cc and get a flame lash off. Both of which are so impractical without an effective gap closer.

Bdawwg

Stam dks are definitely in no need of another heal. Major mending and the draconic passive with vigor is plenty. There's a reason why they're top of the pvp food chain.
A buff to dragons blood has to only affect pvp mag Dk because pve mag Dk is very strong already too. Balance people

MaxwellC

@Bdawwg
Please do not come here with that kind of logic. No stam DK isn't top of this non-exsistant PvP food chain. Just because you fought a tank stam dk doesn't mean we're all the same way and doesn't mean we're top of some food chain. People who come with that argument make me laugh seriously; I wish I was top of this food chain people speak of because I just don't see it.

In PvP you don't see Stam DKs running around, I wonder why since you claim that we're #1 shouldn't there be more of us since players like FOTM but oh.. wait a sec that's stam-blade...

Dragon's blood needs a buff and for those who think it's acceptable a 16.5% heal of your missing health in PvP... then I think you need to try healing with it without the access of rally or vigor.

Bdawwg

I never said it was okay and I never said I came up against a tough stam Dk. I have one of my own, you shouldn't assume so much. What you're asking for is a huge buff to a class that does not need one (stam Dk). Hence why I'm saying try and tailor the dragon blood buff to only affect pvp mag Dk. Once again consider balance and not just your own playstyle

MaxwellC

@Bdawwg

Umm I guess you must've not read what I said should or could be the buff. GDB giving back some stamina which hadn't been determined yet while only costing 3.3k magicka is fair for the fact the the heal you receive in PvP is 16.5% of your missing health. Coag blood still costing 4.5k and healing you over time and you'd only receive it's benefits from it being scaled off your max magicka doesn't affect stam DK.

I've played Mag DK since PC so I've got a lot of information and ideas on how I remember playing it before all the QQs. When ESO came to consoles I played Stam DK so I've got my experience with that as well. I've considered the balance you speak of which is bringing a completely lack luster skill that needs at-least 1 other skill to make it sub par instead of useless.

This isn't some huge buff as you exaggerate it to be, it's bring a useless skill from being useless to actually being useful and worth putting on your bar. If this is a huge buff to stam DK provide in detail how it's going to be OP and please do not make a situational idea on how you can do this at this time, just provide some information regarding how it would make you OP in comparison to the other classes now.

Lokey0024

@Bdawwg

Your wrong cuz mag templar is op AF.

See the logic?

zuto40

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@Bdawwg

Umm I guess you must've not read what I said should or could be the buff. GDB giving back some stamina which hadn't been determined yet while only costing 3.3k magicka is fair for the fact the the heal you receive in PvP is 16.5% of your missing health. Coag blood still costing 4.5k and healing you over time and you'd only receive it's benefits from it being scaled off your max magicka doesn't affect stam DK.

I've played Mag DK since PC so I've got a lot of information and ideas on how I remember playing it before all the QQs. When ESO came to consoles I played Stam DK so I've got my experience with that as well. I've considered the balance you speak of which is bringing a completely lack luster skill that needs at-least 1 other skill to make it sub par instead of useless.

This isn't some huge buff as you exaggerate it to be, it's bring a useless skill from being useless to actually being useful and worth putting on your bar. If this is a huge buff to stam DK provide in detail how it's going to be OP and please do not make a situational idea on how you can do this at this time, just provide some information regarding how it would make you OP in comparison to the other classes now.

GDB, vigor, rally, need i say more?

MaxwellC

@zuto40
Yeah please do. If you feel that I can use GDB at 4.5k magicka with my pool sitting at 10k instead of using my other skills (fossilize/igneous shield).

Ishammael

Unfortunately, this is a useless plea. I started a thread over in the Public Test Server area and got swarmed with people saying "DK is fine", "Dragon Blood is fine"

Dunno what to tell you, mate.

MaxwellC

@Ishammael
Yeah I can only try which is my reason for posting this. I don't know people who keep saying "DK is fine" must have listened to players who keep preaching we're the best in PvP when that's definitely not true. Dragon's blood is a sorry of an excuse ability that is completely pathetic in PvP and preforms subpar in PvE especially for how much it costs resource wise.

bigereard

Hi, maybe because of specific build like this:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2201830/#Comment_2201830
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2205692/#Comment_2205692

From my experience, which is last year, battle spirit only affect healing received..
(this makes PTS argonian racial a nerf for this kind of build)
With those build & battle spirit active, you can still reach about 70% missing health without major vitality potion & malubeth buff..

Dragon blood has same issue with blazing shield, it requires specific build to work and its quite OP when work.
However dragon blood doesn't have any offensive element, thus make it far less desirable than BS.

If we compare with BS, with roughly same cost, if both have 50k health:
BS-> 15.6k damage shield & roughly 10k AoE damage when surrounded by 5 people
DB-> 28k health when execute at 20% health.

For PvP, I once have DB build for duet. Combine with many AoE debuff and Stalwart Guard, it work quite good with DPS partner.