Gamemechanics lead to a 72hr ban.

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Humphie
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Hello ESO community,

I am not here to discuss the ban itself, just want to state how it got to this.
This concerns the speedhacking, which I asure you hasn't been done. But obviously people that know nothing about being an Orc in medium armor felt the need to report and ZOS finds an Orc in medium armor plus all passives as being speed hacking....I mean....eh?

I find this very disturbing and if this keeps going, we all could get reported and banned for using legit racial passives and mechanics. I think this is dangerous and I am interested in your opinion...?!
  • ArchMikem
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    I personally don't consider myself as one who really cares about utilizing Racial Skills to the utmost extreme considering I'm a Khajiit Magicka Templar. I'm probably the complete opposite of what a Khajiit is meant for.

    Really sucks that you got the ban though (if you truly, TRULY didn't cheat). When the hate gets this high people can go on witch hunts.
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  • Humphie
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    I personally don't consider myself as one who really cares about utilizing Racial Skills to the utmost extreme considering I'm a Khajiit Magicka Templar. I'm probably the complete opposite of what a Khajiit is meant for.

    Really sucks that you got the ban though (if you truly, TRULY didn't cheat). When the hate gets this high people can go on witch hunts.

    Trust me...no cheating happened.
  • Molag_Crow
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    That's messed up if it's true, but I'm not surprised that salty people will be on edge and report/get their friends to report you too, just because they think you're speed hacking...
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  • Whatzituyah
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    I am guessing you had the steed stone aswell? This is really too bad if you were truly legit sadly the forums isn't a place to discuss this.
  • ArchMikem
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    You could send them a ticket pleading your case. Instead of waiting out the 72 hours you might get back in within 24.
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  • Sharee
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    How many other orcs in medium armor got banned?
  • Humphie
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    You could send them a ticket pleading your case. Instead of waiting out the 72 hours you might get back in within 24.

    Already done. Still on 72hr ban
  • mistermutiny89
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    This is happening to top ranked VMA you tubers as well on magicka builds. It's lovely how ZoS treats people who DON'T cheat.

    The people vs the devs as always.
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  • Whatzituyah
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    This is happening to top ranked VMA you tubers as well on magicka builds. It's lovely how ZoS treats people who DON'T cheat.

    The people vs the devs as always.

    @mistermutiny89 Well now thats a double edge sword! People complain if ZOS doesn't ban them but they also complain when they do get banned... Sounds like a double negative to me.
  • blake-man01
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    I was banned for this yesterday and was informed that there will be no disclosure on what happened on my account and that their "records" showed I violated the code of conduct due to "speedhacking" even though I have not nor have the knowledge of doing so. But that's what I get for being an orc right?...... Right?

    All it takes is someone ignorant enough to send a report on someone using in-game mechanics to get them banned, and that just shows how much effort they go into "investigating" a report for something soo serious.
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    @mistermutiny89 Well now thats a double edge sword! People complain if ZOS doesn't ban them but they also complain when they do get banned... Sounds like a double negative to me.

    It truly is. It's just a shame that the youtubers that have spent years supporting the game are whacked with false accusations. But these ban clamps wouldn't exist if us humans could be a little more honest and not find the need to cheat in the first place.

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  • Lysette
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    I mean, if I would have an Orc, I would for certain go for this passive - wearing all divine and steed stone active plus spell - this can lead to some incredible speed combined for a short amount of time, and overall to be much faster than the rest.
  • blake-man01
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    Lysette wrote: »
    I mean, if I would have an Orc, I would for certain go for this passive - wearing all divine and steed stone active plus spell - this can lead to some incredible speed combined for a short amount of time, and overall to be much faster than the rest.

    Cant now you will get banned for it :disappointed:
    Edited by blake-man01 on June 26, 2016 8:27AM
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  • KhajiitiLizard
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    Were you stacking with steed stone as well? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXXXXX!!!

    More specifically: Orc medium armor (divines) steed stone, also spamming rapids.... lol
    Edited by KhajiitiLizard on June 26, 2016 8:30AM
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    How much bonus speed did you get in total?
  • Lysette
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    Cant now you will get banned for it :disappointed:

    I do not have an Orc, I said, if I would :wink:
  • RoyJade
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    How much bonus speed did you get in total?

    Nearly the same as a 60 speed horse.
  • Lysette
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    RoyJade wrote: »

    Nearly the same as a 60 speed horse.

    without rapid you mean, right?
  • blake-man01
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    Lysette wrote: »

    without rapid you mean, right?

    I think that's including the major expedition buff from rapids which you can also achieve from bow roll dodge.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Guess I'm speedhacking then. I'm an Orc with Medium Armor AND The Steed Mundus. I run like the wind without any third party program giving me a hand but by all means report me for speedhacking ;) Meanwhile I'll just use Retreating Maneuver and zoom right on by with my perfectly legit speed B)
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on June 26, 2016 8:56AM
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  • Lysette
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    I think that's including the major expedition buff from rapids which you can also achieve from bow roll dodge.

    Yeah, my bad, I miscalculated the divine effects.
  • Vaoh
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    Unbelievable.

    ZOS will further hurt this game's reputation if they continue to ban people for using legit game mechanics and/or playing skillfully.

    How to get get permanently banned from ESO (aka 72-hour suspension):

    • Roll a Stamina or Magicka Dragonknight and use 2x Blood Spawn, 5x Tava's Favor, and 3x Agility/Willpower. Gain Major Evasion and dodge roll stuff. Kill enemies and you can now cast Dawnbreaker every 10 seconds or so.

    • Pull a really nice 1vX in PvP.

    • Become an Emperor in PvP and cast back to back Dawnbreakers or Meteors when possible.

    • Roll an Orc. Use Major and Minor Expedition. Sprint a lot. Equpping sets that boost movement speed and obtaining The Steed mundus will also help too.

    • Get a large group to hate you enough.

    • Earn a score of 550K+ in Veteran Maelstrom Arena.

    • Use Cheat Engine.


    All of these are basically the same thing. You might get banned, or you might just continue as normal. Either way, the suspension is short :|

  • Cronopoly
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    It's a shame but in this case Zos is swinging the Ban Hammer both ways, hitting, friend and foe alike.

    Also "inb4 the Lock"
    "This thread has run it's course and hints at bannable offenses which are not allowed." Please use the support system if you have a problem that cannot be resolved."
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Doncellius wrote: »
    Unbelievable.

    ZOS will further hurt this game's reputation if they continue to ban people for using legit game mechanics and/or playing skillfully.

    How to get get permanently banned from ESO (aka 72-hour suspension):

    • Roll a Stamina or Magicka Dragonknight and use 2x Blood Spawn, 5x Tava's Favor, and 3x Agility/Willpower. Gain Major Evasion and dodge roll stuff. Kill enemies and you can now cast Dawnbreaker every 10 seconds or so.

    • Pull a really nice 1vX in PvP.

    • Become an Emperor in PvP and cast back to back Dawnbreakers or Meteors when possible.

    • Roll an Orc. Use Major and Minor Expedition. Sprint a lot. Equpping sets that boost movement speed and obtaining The Steed mundus will also help too.

    • Get a large group to hate you enough.

    • Earn a score of 550K+ in Veteran Maelstrom Arena.

    • Use Cheat Engine.


    All of these are basically the same thing. You might get banned, or you might just continue as normal. Either way, the suspension is short :|


    Nice summary. If I was a zos employee reading that I would feel ashamed. I was under the impression though that the recent "speed hacking" bans were triggered by anti-hack software, not reports from other players. It's pretty ridiculous that zos can't get anyone to work on weekends to fix stuff like this. What a farce, GJ zos.
    Edited by FriedEggSandwich on June 26, 2016 9:22AM
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  • RoyJade
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    Lysette wrote: »

    without rapid you mean, right?

    Without rapids, yes. Rapids give you the same speed with or without your mount, so I don't count it.
    Sprint give you +40% speed, 7 medium give you 21% more, orsimer passive add 10%, CP passive add 2% and steed give a 5 - 7,6% (without/with 7 divine). Without any expedition buff, you already have more speed than a horse who don't sprint. With both expedition buff in top of that, you can have more or less 120% more speed (a sprinting horse have 130%).
    Edited by RoyJade on June 26, 2016 9:23AM
  • Van_0S
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    As i commented earlier in some other forums that you guys should avoid going to cyrodiil till ZO$ fix this issue the Cheats/hacks.
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    Also, dont give a single $$$ to ZO$, till they fix this game.
    Edited by Van_0S on June 26, 2016 9:25AM
  • Caligamy_ESO
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    My Orc crafter/gatherer uses WIndwalker (CP bonus), medium & racial passives, and steed stone in divines and nobody has reported me that I know of. Gotta admit though while sprinting through town and passing people on their mounts I have wondered if they think I am cheating in some way.

    Seems to me though that ZoS should be able to tell the difference between a player using CheatEngine and one who does not..
  • Vaoh
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    My Orc crafter/gatherer uses WIndwalker (CP bonus), medium & racial passives, and steed stone in divines and nobody has reported me that I know of. Gotta admit though while sprinting through town and passing people on their mounts I have wondered if they think I am cheating in some way.

    Seems to me though that ZoS should be able to tell the difference between a player using CheatEngine and one who does not..

    Key word: Should

    Reality: They have absolutely no idea. None. Not even a little, and it as a IS that sad.

    As a console player, I have finally found a great reason to justify ESO on console over PC.

    No rampant cheating or clueless banning.
    Edited by Vaoh on June 26, 2016 9:35AM
  • SienneYviete
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    LOL zos such incompetence if you're going to police your game do it properly please stop banning people based off salty terribads spamming the report button. So happy I unsubbed from this pos. Poor humphie :(
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