What is with all the stamina builds?

Davor

I am seeing a Sorcerer stamina build, Dragon Knight Stamina build, etc so why is stamina the big thing now? Just getting back, so I don't have a clue why this is good or that is good.

So what is so good about stamina now?

OGLezard

stamina is king now, if you only have magicka then reroll

MaxwellC

I feel weaker this patch as a stamina user at-least PvP wise; post patch PvP wise I felt stronger and PvE wise I was slightly weaker since I didn't have CP scale-able DoTs.

DannyLV702

Meh everything's the same. A good player is a good player regardless of what class or attribute he/she's playing

Amdar_Godkiller

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I feel weaker this patch as a stamina user at-least PvP wise; post patch PvP wise I felt stronger and PvE wise I was slightly weaker since I didn't have CP scale-able DoTs.

My Stam DK feels much stronger overall, but some specific skills got nerfed.

Nerfed:

Wrecking Blow - no longer stuns; no longer double-dips into thaumaturge

Flames of Oblivion - I'm getting about 10% less damage, and this is because I've transferred points from elemental expert to mighty now that that the searing strike and fiery breath stamina morphs are tied to poison damage/Mighty. 

Every other DK skill that uses magic - partially because I'm less invested in elemental expert (I kept 10 CP in for Flames and Shooting Star); but mainly because magic costs have grown tremendously. I used to be able to cast Dragonfire Scales and Obisidian Shield much more frequently.


Unsure if nerfed or buffed:

Executioner - 

Con: No longer increases the damage of 2-handed skills against those with low health;

Pro - Does more damage 



Arrow Barrage- Seems weaker


Roll-dodging- Costs a lot more now



Buffed-

Venomous Claw

Noxious Breath

Pretty much every Dual Wield skill

FIGHTER's Guild Skills!!!! - Each one slotted increases weapon damage! (I love my Silver Leash) And Flawless Dawnbreaker is finally usable as a stamina ultimate.

Poison Injection

Ep1kMalware

my maain (stam templar) feels slightlt weaker. priba due to thaumaturge not working right.

Amdar_Godkiller

You also have to put it in context with the Nerf to magicka builds. They were nerfed much more, and didn't really receive any substantial buffs to compensate. 

It also seems like two-handed skills are much easier to weave with this patch.

Ffastyl

Hybrid builds are viable. And strong. Combine the sustained damage and healing of a magicka Templar with the heavy blows and CC of a stamina Templar and we have something that is incredibly durable and deadly in PvP.

This also lets me do a bit of dps as a tank, with Puncturing Sweeps healing me as I strike.

Ep1kMalware

wait wut? stamplars cc? I know they did some junk to sacred ground but I used extended ritual anyway. I've alwayss used caltrops to snare. What other ccs am I missing?

karakondzula

Gap closers are so broken that stamina feels like a second choice for me. They don't work 80% of time...

captainwolfos

My main was a dual wield stam sorc before it was cool :P

No but seriously I use certain classes and/or builds simply for RP reasons and/or because I find them fun. I've not really changed any of my characters' builds because I've been playing SWTOR I'm stubborn and lazy.

leepalmer95

I think it's because magicka was so one sided last patch that everyone is now sick of magicka builds.

Oh and all the pugs heard streamers and such say stamina is the META/ FOTM therefore they had to reroll.

Neophyte

I levelled up a stam khajiit NB up to v16 way before DB and never really used it. I made it for pvp but never got round to sticking with it. Is it still a good build for pvp after DB?? .I also started a khajiit DK for pve/pvp again I only levelled this char up to lv17 and when back to magicka based builds as I'm usually ranged. Not sure what to go with for pvp as I am pretty bored with the magicka

altemriel

Davor wrote: »

I am seeing a Sorcerer stamina build, Dragon Knight Stamina build, etc so why is stamina the big thing now? Just getting back, so I don't have a clue why this is good or that is good.

So what is so good about stamina now?

because the last patch buffed stam builds

or nerfed mag builds? I don`t know...

ADarklore

Maybe because Stamina allows more variety whereas Magicka does not. You have multiple choices of weapons allowing for much wider range of loadout options, when playing Magicka you're relegated to using Destro/Resto staff if you weave or DW for spell damage. With Stamina, you can switch between weapons, try new things, which helps to alleviate boredom when playing the same game over a long period of time; the more variety, the more long term viability IMO.

khele23eb17_ESO

And yet light attack weaving is still broken...

Tavore1138

They made a few changes to give stamina builds more options on class skills that actually scale off physical damage or related passives and cp trees plus added poisons so people are trying the new build options out.

Give it a couple of weeks for the theory crafters to do their thing and we'll see whether stamina will be the meta or whether they got the magicka/stamina balance about right...

clocksstoppe

Honestly it's just fotw and nothing more. I've yet to see a stamina dd in pve have better dps than magicka ones.

Skitttles

Because stabbing things is fun.

Sa0n

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

hamburgerler76

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

i have bin a stam dk since day 1 never changed we have had it rough but now its our time! lol

Smileybones

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

You'd be surprised how many wannabes do this.

Mojmir

Smileybones wrote: »

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

You'd be surprised how many wannabes do this.

i have 2 of each class,stamina and magicka. pardon me for thinking ahead.

Niaver

My Dragon Leap doesn't work at all, so..

Fuzzybrick

I simply like my Stam toons because they run faster.

Sigma957

Mojmir wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

You'd be surprised how many wannabes do this.

i have 2 of each class,stamina and magicka. pardon me for thinking ahead.

Done the same but now with added character spots you don't really need to reroll to try something different.

Brrrofski

Mojmir wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

You'd be surprised how many wannabes do this.

i have 2 of each class,stamina and magicka. pardon me for thinking ahead.

Yeh, I had them maxed before db too. My stamplar especially is really shining now though.

Mojmir

Brrrofski wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Smileybones wrote: »

Sa0n wrote: »

Do people seriously reroll everytime there's some little change?

You'd be surprised how many wannabes do this.

i have 2 of each class,stamina and magicka. pardon me for thinking ahead.

Yeh, I had them maxed before db too. My stamplar especially is really shining now though.

im returning to my stamblade, stamplar and stamknight just not my thing.stamsorc is meh

ConeOfSilence

Skitttles wrote: »

Because stabbing things is fun.

This haha

Vaoh

IN GENERAL Stamina specs were buffed and Magicka specs were nerfed.

Let's not forgot that Disease attacks via Stam NB, Poison attacks via Stam DK, and Hurricane on Stam Sorc look really cool too

Plus we had Vet ranks removed which allows us to play with characters we never bothered to level up before.

The meta has switched from Magicka to Stamina. Balance IS all-around better this patch though imo.

Molag_Crow

DannyLV702 wrote: »

Meh everything's the same. A good player is a good player regardless of what class or attribute he/she's playing