Is this a bug I found when wearing two of the same armor bonus sets?

RSram

I was tinkering around with crafting the Law of Julianos bonus set,and I was wondering what would happen if I tried using two sets: One 5 piece set and One 3 piece set. I wanted to see if the spell critical and max magicka would stack. Interesting, it seems that I lost 179 max magicka, and 44 spell damage, but it looked like the spell critical did stack. Is this a bug that I found?

To save material, I crafted the second armor set at a level 1, so I didn't expect to see a huge increase in stats, but I also didn't expect to see two of my attributes decrease.

No Bonus set:
Max Magicka 22874
Spell Damage 0
Spell Critical 43%

Wearing 5 pieces of Law of Julianos CP160:
Max Magicka 27387
Spell Damage 305
Spell Critical 51.2%

Wearing 7 pieces of Law of Julianos (5 pieces of C160 and 2 pieces of level 1):
Max Magicka 27209
Spell Damage 261
Spell Critical 60.3%

Net Change between wearing 5 and then 7 pieces:
Max Magicka -179
Spell Damage -44
Spell Critical +9.1%

SublimeSparo

Thief mundus, divines trait?

RSram

Yea, I have that. So how does it affect wearing this bonus set?

Lokey0024

Not equally quality of gear?

ShedsHisTail

Looks like it's scaling the whole set bonus to the lowest level piece of armor.

SublimeSparo

RSram wrote: »

Yea, I have that. So how does it affect wearing this bonus set?

Did you take your measurements like this:-
Wearing 5p divines julianos armour and nothing else
And,
Wearing 7p of julianos armour

SirAndy

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Not equally quality of gear?

The game probably mix matched the higher and lower level gear pieces which resulted in the drop of your stats.

To test this correctly, all pieces need to be of the same level and quality. You could simply test this by using just level 1 pieces for everything.

RSram

The first results were with wearing no armor.

The second results were wearing just 5 piece julianos armor no pants, shoes, or weapons. I have infused on the hood and chest, and divines on the shoulders, gloves, and waste. The divine is the Thief.

For the third results, I added an a set of level 1 julianos pants and shoes.

ИВАН_ВОДКА

interesting! i always know if you wear more than 5 sets and if piece low quality it will affect the bonuses

but never saw a stack of a crit! its good
need to test more

SublimeSparo

To do a proper comparison you'd need to test the following;
All same weight armour
Remove your mundus stone and inner light etc from your bar

Make 7 pieces of low level julianos and 2 pieces of non set gesr all light, no traits
Then compare;
5 julianos 2 non set
Against
7 julianos

SublimeSparo

RSram wrote: »

The first results were with wearing no armor.

The second results were wearing just 5 piece julianos armor no pants, shoes, or weapons. I have infused on the hood and chest, and divines on the shoulders, gloves, and waste. The divine is the Thief.

For the third results, I added an a set of level 1 julianos pants and shoes.

The extra crit is most likely from the extra divines being applied but could also be from light armour passives depending on which armour weights your pieces are

SirAndy

RSram wrote: »

The first results were with wearing no armor.
The second results were wearing just 5 piece julianos armor no pants, shoes, or weapons. I have infused on the hood and chest, and divines on the shoulders, gloves, and waste. The divine is the Thief.
For the third results, I added an a set of level 1 julianos pants and shoes.

That's your problem right there. You have no idea what the game considers "one set". If the items don't match in level and quality, you can lose stats if the game decides to consider a mix of both a "set".

Make all 7 pieces level one, same quality, no enchants and report back ...

RSram

SirAndy wrote: »

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Not equally quality of gear?

The game probably mix matched the higher and lower level gear pieces which resulted in the drop of your stats.

To test this correctly, all pieces need to be of the same level and quality. You could simply test this by using just level 1 pieces for everything.

That sounds like a plan. Making everything the same would be a better test I guess, but it would really suck if all the attributes stack at level 1, but then don't at CP160 resulting in me wasting valuable crafting material.

It seems to me that nothing in this game works logically across the skills, armor, weapons, and effect, there are exceptions to everything.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it later this weekend and post my results.

SirAndy

RSram wrote: »

it would really suck if all the attributes stack at level 1, but then don't at CP160 resulting in me wasting valuable crafting material.

Then try purple CP140 first, after testing white level 1. The CP140 is cheap to make and if it works there it should also work for gold CP160.

RSram

I crafted seven level 1 armor and staffs. I cleared both weapon bars, and removed all jewelry. The only bonuses that I had was the Thief and ESO plus.

The Law of Julianos base stats with 5 level 1 items are:

Maximum Magicka: 22
Spell Critical: 32
Spell Damage: 6

The problem with the spell critical is that it isn't in percentage, but when you look at the player stats, the spell critical is in percentage?

With no armor or weapons:
Maximum Magicka: 14494
Spell Critical: 33%
Spell Damage: 0

With just 5 pieces of level 1 armor:
Maximum Magicka: 14522 (Note that 14522 - 14494 = 28, not 22!)
Spell Critical: 43.1%
Spell Damage: 6

With 7 pieces of armor and 2 staffs:
Maximum Magicka: 14522
Spell Critical:43.1%
Spell Damage: 174 (Might be due to Champion points allocated to staff damage or something)

So with the exception of the anomaly of the increase in spell damage, it looks like that second duplicate set is ignored; at least when using level 1 items.

It doesn't make sense why I lost magicka and spell damage with the level CP160 items, but it seems that the same armor set can't be stacked, and stacking this same bonus sets a higher CP level is buggy!

ИВАН_ВОДКА

may be it can be stacked ONLY if you will use different quality items

FailSaucePro

It averages the stats out and your cp 160 gear is being lowered by the level 1 gear. Also, you won't gain any more from using over five pieces of that set, all you will get is critical and penetration from the light armor skill line passives and spell damage from the staff.

Edit - I actually forgot exactly what the light armor passives are and I'm too lazy/tired to log in and check so that may not be accurate information.

RSram

FailSaucePro wrote: »

It averages the stats out and your cp 160 gear is being lowered by the level 1 gear. Also, you won't gain any more from using over five pieces of that set, all you will get is critical and penetration from the light armor skill line passives and spell damage from the staff.

You explanation explanation seems to make sense given the results that I seen, at least I didn't waste materials making CP160 items.