New to tanking - need guidance about skills/armor?

DangerMan

My main is a DPS Stam DK, but I've decided to dual-spec him as a tank too. My champion points are pretty much spec'ed as a DPS, but I can still hit resistance caps with a change to heavy armor.

What skills should I be using to when I do take on the tanking role on this guy. My planned build is below.

**Skills:**

Bar1: Ransack - Absorb Magic - Choking Talons - Coagulating Blood/Vigor - Harness Magicka - Warhorn

Bar2: Heroic Slash - Inner Beast - Deep Breath - Hardened Armor - Unstoppable - Standard of Might/Magma Shell


**Armor:**

5pc Footman v14

5pc Hist Bark v16

2pc Engine Guardian v16

Should I replace any of the skills on my bar - or - do I have to have any other skills on my bar?

Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks!

UrQuan

I wouldn't bother with Inner Beast on your bar. Get the skill for sure, but 95% of fights you don't need it, so don't keep it on your bar normally. When you're about to go into a fight where a ranged taunt is useful, put it on your bar before the fight.

For a DK I also wouldn't bother with Unstoppable, as Hardened Armour already gives you Major Ward and Major Resolve, and it lasts for longer. The immunity to disabling effects is nice, but IMO not really worth it over Hardened Armour. Since you're using Armour Master, you're going to want an Armour skill on both bars (Harness Magicka on the other bar is good - you probably won't use it every fight, but in a lot of fights it can be a life saver, and it's handy to have in case you need it), so I'd replace Unstoppable with Shuffle. This is what you should usually be using to proc Armour Master.

For your ultimate on your second bar, usually I prefer DK Standard while tanking, but for some fights where the incoming damage is just gross and you may want to resurrect someone while you've got loads of damage coming in, Magma Shell is good.

Otherwise looks like a pretty good setup.

DangerMan

UrQuan wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with Inner Beast on your bar. Get the skill for sure, but 95% of fights you don't need it, so don't keep it on your bar normally. When you're about to go into a fight where a ranged taunt is useful, put it on your bar before the fight.

For a DK I also wouldn't bother with Unstoppable, as Hardened Armour already gives you Major Ward and Major Resolve, and it lasts for longer. The immunity to disabling effects is nice, but IMO not really worth it over Hardened Armour. Since you're using Armour Master, you're going to want an Armour skill on both bars (Harness Magicka on the other bar is good - you probably won't use it every fight, but in a lot of fights it can be a life saver, and it's handy to have in case you need it), so I'd replace Unstoppable with Shuffle. This is what you should usually be using to proc Armour Master.

For your ultimate on your second bar, usually I prefer DK Standard while tanking, but for some fights where the incoming damage is just gross and you may want to resurrect someone while you've got loads of damage coming in, Magma Shell is good.

Otherwise looks like a pretty good setup.

Should I be running Armor Master with Shuffle? People say it's useless since you can hit caps without it. Hist Bark saves me a skill spot. Not sure which one would be better.

UrQuan

DangerMan wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with Inner Beast on your bar. Get the skill for sure, but 95% of fights you don't need it, so don't keep it on your bar normally. When you're about to go into a fight where a ranged taunt is useful, put it on your bar before the fight.

For a DK I also wouldn't bother with Unstoppable, as Hardened Armour already gives you Major Ward and Major Resolve, and it lasts for longer. The immunity to disabling effects is nice, but IMO not really worth it over Hardened Armour. Since you're using Armour Master, you're going to want an Armour skill on both bars (Harness Magicka on the other bar is good - you probably won't use it every fight, but in a lot of fights it can be a life saver, and it's handy to have in case you need it), so I'd replace Unstoppable with Shuffle. This is what you should usually be using to proc Armour Master.

For your ultimate on your second bar, usually I prefer DK Standard while tanking, but for some fights where the incoming damage is just gross and you may want to resurrect someone while you've got loads of damage coming in, Magma Shell is good.

Otherwise looks like a pretty good setup.

Should I be running Armor Master with Shuffle? People say it's useless since you can hit caps without it. Hist Bark saves me a skill spot. Not sure which one would be better.

I like Armour Master with Shuffle a lot better than Hist Bark. It's not just about hitting the caps - it's also about getting the additional health, and not having to perma-block to get the dodge. Also, if you're a stamina build with Armour Master if you want you can go 5-piece medium (make sure you've got a heavy chest), and between Hardened Armour and the Armour Master proc you can still reach the caps, so you've got better stamina recovery etc.

Autolycus

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/254916/ultimate-tank-build-updated-for-db/p1

ReaX

we run icp with 3 dps and a magicka templar tank+healer in spell power cure, worm and engine guardian, who has 19k hp... so in this game you can tank in any way you want. not in trials ofc

DangerMan

ReaX wrote: »

we run icp with 3 dps and a magicka templar tank+healer in spell power cure, worm and engine guardian, who has 19k hp... so in this game you can tank in any way you want. not in trials ofc

How's this build for trials besides vMoL?

Zeg0ta

Armor master is overkill don't run it and hist bark is outdated because you have to be blocking fo it to work. Tava's would be a good set to run in it place it gives better regen and ultimate regen which is great for dks because we get stam health and magicka back from using ultimate and we only need to run shuffle on one of our bars and we don't have to block to get the dodge chance.

ReaX

DangerMan wrote: »

ReaX wrote: »

we run icp with 3 dps and a magicka templar tank+healer in spell power cure, worm and engine guardian, who has 19k hp... so in this game you can tank in any way you want. not in trials ofc

How's this build for trials besides vMoL?

I don't know, guess it's not very good in trials