Maintenance for the week of December 16:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – December 16
• NA megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
• EU megaservers for patch maintenance – December 17, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
The issues on the North American megaservers have been resolved at this time. If you continue to experience difficulties at login, please restart your client. Thank you for your patience!
Thieves Guild Weapons are switched with Outlaw weapons !
Harvall
✭✭✭
Why did no one noticed this ? i know this is some time after Thieves Guild DLC went up but there was always something wrong for me with the looks of weapons going in style to armor. And by Akatosh i was right ! here is proof ! if anything you can always look up other pieces on ESO Fashion website..
So, i dont have all of the chapters yet, but the ones that i DO have, have written something that describes the other style. For example
If you read "Crafting Motiff 33: Thieves Guild Daggers" it says
The official Guild dagger is a double-edged stabbing weapon with a broad blade - almost a short sword. The flaring three-bladed Guild symbol at the hilt serves as crossguard"
and here it is. Matches the description perfectly. Except the fact that this is an Outlaw style dagger - not the Thieves Guild
And here is the current Thieves Guild dagger that matches description of an Outlaw Dagger
Next one. Lets take "Crafting Motiff 33: Thieves Guild Shields"
"Deciding to encumber oneself with a shield can be a difficult decision for a thief, so we allow a fair amount of variation in both shape and size: anything from a medium round shield up up to a full kite shield is acceptable. The Guild symbol should appear in the center on a (rather large) round boss"
Okay, so we have this described variation below
Round Shield and a Full Kite Shield. Again ! those shields are crafted with Outlaw Style
And here is the current Thieves Guild Shield that matches the decription of an Outlaw Shield
As you can see, this is all wrong ! how something like this could be missed ?! the armors do not match with the weapons (and shield) What i suggest to actualy FIX this, and not to leave it be because "people already got their mottifs which they like" NO this is badly done. Please, kindly please, to developers and Game Masters, Fix this. No one will be angry, Make Thieves guild weapons to look like current Outlaw weapons and Outlaw weapons look like current Thieves guild weapons. I dont know how to caption popular GM's here, i have seen people do it but i dont know how. If anyone reads this, do it for me. Focus attention on this post. This is all important. Thank you.
So, i dont have all of the chapters yet, but the ones that i DO have, have written something that describes the other style. For example
If you read "Crafting Motiff 33: Thieves Guild Daggers" it says
The official Guild dagger is a double-edged stabbing weapon with a broad blade - almost a short sword. The flaring three-bladed Guild symbol at the hilt serves as crossguard"
and here it is. Matches the description perfectly. Except the fact that this is an Outlaw style dagger - not the Thieves Guild
And here is the current Thieves Guild dagger that matches description of an Outlaw Dagger
Next one. Lets take "Crafting Motiff 33: Thieves Guild Shields"
"Deciding to encumber oneself with a shield can be a difficult decision for a thief, so we allow a fair amount of variation in both shape and size: anything from a medium round shield up up to a full kite shield is acceptable. The Guild symbol should appear in the center on a (rather large) round boss"
Okay, so we have this described variation below
Round Shield and a Full Kite Shield. Again ! those shields are crafted with Outlaw Style
And here is the current Thieves Guild Shield that matches the decription of an Outlaw Shield
As you can see, this is all wrong ! how something like this could be missed ?! the armors do not match with the weapons (and shield) What i suggest to actualy FIX this, and not to leave it be because "people already got their mottifs which they like" NO this is badly done. Please, kindly please, to developers and Game Masters, Fix this. No one will be angry, Make Thieves guild weapons to look like current Outlaw weapons and Outlaw weapons look like current Thieves guild weapons. I dont know how to caption popular GM's here, i have seen people do it but i dont know how. If anyone reads this, do it for me. Focus attention on this post. This is all important. Thank you.
1
-
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They were mixed up before DB too and so they changed Outlaw to what it was meant to be which did not sit well with some by the way lol but if that fix has reverted back then they will have to fix it again...Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy0 -
Harvall✭✭✭Really ? so this must had been fixed before i started Thieves guild. If they fixed it back then, then i hope they will make it right now too.Edited by Harvall on June 16, 2016 9:05PM0
-
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People have already crafted items based on how they currently look. Switching the looks around would just cause too many problems. They made a similar mistake with Assassin's League vs. Outlaw swords being swapped, and that fix was quite unpopular.
They should just revise/swap the text of their motif chapters for consistency.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information0 -
Harvall✭✭✭No, this is exactly my point !, how something like this can be left as it is ? the weapons from the same style don't match the armors from the same style. This is not how it is supposed to be. This i wrong, and everybody knows that. Besides, everyone is going to farm for every style anyways, and mats for both of those styles are easy tog et too. Don't exxegerate. People that do not want it to be fixed either forgot or dont want to understand basic concept of TES. I can't image this to be left alone. You can always craft new items. This is a game. Not a life choice. Fixing this is not bad and is needed Folks, this should happen. Dont let it lay as it isEdited by Harvall on June 16, 2016 9:29PM0
-
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, this is exactly my point !, how something like this can be left as it is ? the weapons from the same style don't match the armors from the same style. This is not how it is supposed to be. This i wrong, and everybody knows that. Besides, everyone is going to farm for every style anyways, and mats for both of those styles are easy tog et too. Don't exxegerate. People that do not want it to be fixed either forgot or dont want to understand basic concept of TES. I can't image this to be left alone. You can always craft new items. This is a game. Not a life choice. Fixing this is not bad and is needed Folks, this should happen. Dont let it lay as it is
People who spent legendary tempers would disagree with that rather short-sighted view.
It should be fixed, yes. But by swapping chapter texts, not by swapping actual in-game appearance.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information2 -
WhiteNoiseMaker✭✭✭✭If you're paying for my mats and tempers, sure. Otherwise please shut up about what "ought to be lore appropriate fixes" and leave well enough alone.4 -
Harvall✭✭✭Maybe there could be done some patch serverwide lets say a week long, that would give you an option to convert to the other style you know ? just like it is with converting to imperial. Would you be able to agree on this option ? Or special NPC in some common place that would do this.Edited by Harvall on June 17, 2016 5:20AM0
-
Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If anyone wants to know how a set looks, I would really recommend looking at this site http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com or ESO Fashion before actually crafting and upgrading any gear.
I am against changing the appearance of gear once it is already in-game, I spend a reasonable amount of time deciding how I want my character's gear to look and a lot of money/(or mats that are worth a lot of money) upgrading and do not want it changed.
If anything needs to change, it is the text of the motif book, so that the written lore in ESO matches the appearance of already-crafted sets, not the other way around.Edited by Epona222 on June 17, 2016 5:26AMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.1 -
Harvall✭✭✭I am against changing the appearance of gear once it is already in-game, I spend a reasonable amount of time deciding how I want my character's gear to look and a lot of money/(or mats that are worth a lot of money) upgrading and do not want it changed.
But your appearance does not have to look diffrent. It will be exactly the same. My point is, for example you would find your sword after one patch changed to Outlaw Visual look. With a convertion option you would be able to convert it back to the Thieves guild looks without loosing anything or having to craft anything a new
0 -
Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm with Harvall on this. It shouldn't have made it in game.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault1 -
Epona222✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I am against changing the appearance of gear once it is already in-game, I spend a reasonable amount of time deciding how I want my character's gear to look and a lot of money/(or mats that are worth a lot of money) upgrading and do not want it changed.
But your appearance does not have to look diffrent. It will be exactly the same. My point is, for example you would find your sword after one patch changed to Outlaw Visual look. With a convertion option you would be able to convert it back to the Thieves guild looks without loosing anything or having to craft anything a new
They won't do that though, they'll just change the way it looks and it will instantly change for everyone. It's happened before. They don't give options, so be careful what you wish for.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
Epona was a Romano-Celtic goddess dating back to around 1800 to 2000 years before computer games were invented.0 -
Harvall✭✭✭Well, i know what i wish for. And i um... you know, wish they would do it ? :P I know this will change weapon looks for everyone but this is how it should be. if ZOS screwed this they should at least try to repair mistakes and add this option to convert to Outlaw/Thieves guild for a week or two. Of course, that would enable any player to change any style weapon to Outlaw/Thieves Guild (or maybe they can do only those two styles convertable) but it is just a price they should pay for making it switched in the first placeEdited by Harvall on June 17, 2016 8:20AM1
-
Sporvan✭✭✭✭✭Yep, would love to see this set rectified... it feels "incomplete" knowing that there's a weapon mixup in the sets.
1 -
Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Their dev team is just simply too superficial when adding new things into the game.
This is just an example what we have to put up with.
While I agree that this should have never have gotten implemented in the first place, I don't think it should be reverted at this point.
The best thing they can do is re-write the Motif text to reflect the actual look.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This should be fixed - but those shields need work anyway, they clip into my body even when I just stand idle, even worse when i am crouching. Then it cuts right through my head and into my hips - it is not well done, poor job from ZOS.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom please be so kind, to let your team look into this - well, not just into the shield, the whole thread I mean, the OP has a valid point.Edited by Lysette on June 29, 2016 6:25PM0 -
Sporvan✭✭✭✭✭Yep, would love to see this set rectified... it feels "incomplete" knowing that there's a weapon mixup in the sets.
0 -
They could just correct the problem right before they increase the max level for items. That way it won't be as painful as most people will be crafting new gear anyway.0