Can we make jesus beam dodgerollable again yet/

leepalmer95

Still waiting for the balance, thanks.

Morathras

as a templar i say yes.

Birdovic

Would help against perma Dodge rollers.
Still, I'd prefer The range to be reduced to 20m and execute Range, too.

Sunburnt_Penguin

On one hand, it does seem fair as every other execute is dodgeable. However, there is a channel time on JB which means that if it were dodgeable then it would be the easiest execute to dodge.

I'd accept it being dodgeable if part of the cost was refunded according to the unused channel time following the dodge e.g. Channel time is 3 seconds and cost is 3k Magicka, dodged after 1 second = 2k Magicka returned to caster.

Khaos_Bane

There is nothing wrong with jesus beam

Birdovic

Khaos_Bane wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with jesus beam

TequilaFire

Just stop with this nerf stuff already.
Really getting old.
Dodge rollers need something to stop them, when I use other abilities all I see is dodge, dodge, dodge, miss.
Maybe the dodge chance should be lowered (or fixed) then I might agree.

DKsUnite

i would rather the range drop to 20m instead of letting it be dodge rollable. I want to have a chance to interrupt that templar spamming RD on me from 41m away while i fight 3 NBs...

Reapor

All it needs is the extra damage lowering from activating at 50% to 25%.

Btw anyone who thinks 1 shotting people from 50% is fine, are morons.

TequilaFire

10m, 20m it would not make a difference in a case where you are fighting multiple players.

Birdovic

Or The 100% Dodge Chance Timeframe needs to be reduced.
Like Dodge Rolling Takes 1sec And The guaranteed Dodge happens only in 0,5sec of that Time, The Rest 0,5sec has a 20% Dodge Chance.

Wollust

Gotta love the zergling templars having a 100% uptime of jesus beam on you from 30m distance. Awesome.

Reapor

Wollust wrote: »

Gotta love the zergling templars having a 100% uptime of jesus beam on you from 30m distance. Awesome.

It promotes bad play you are right, iv jumped templars in ipc and they have panicked and insta jesus beamed me at 100% it didnt hurt but still it shows the mind set.

leepalmer95

It's an execute that just completely ignores a defence mechanic, it going through dodge is the equivalent of something just ignoring block.

Every other class seems to handle dodge just for, i'm sure mag templars can figure something out to hit dodge rollers, maybe an aoe stunning skill that they have.

Also i do agree with the range and the % is starts increasing, not sure why it' got such a big range and starts scaling at 50% when every other ranged execute is 25/20% and they can be dodged.

Runs

Can we stop calling it Jesus Beam so noobs stop using it as an opener for everything?

Van_0S

Rip PvP!
RiP exploit/cheat engine!

TequilaFire

Some players just can't handle the simple means of avoiding/breaking RD and will always cry till they get their way just like every other thing that has ruined this game.
They quickly forget that a Templar has no mobility at all and is completely vulnerable during the channel time.
Hello Kitty!

leepalmer95

Runs wrote: »

Can we stop calling it Jesus Beam so noobs stop using it as an opener for everything?

But they believe

Bashev

I hate Jesus beam but it should be undodgable. The execute should start from 20%. An the damage should be changed because right now it is multiplicative and it is buffed from magic damage, dot damage, magicka ratio damage and execute. Too many parameter and that is why there is so big numbers in the death recap.

Idinuse

No. One of few if not the only thing that can hit perma dodge shuffle players. I know they want 100% immunity to any damage in the game, but no.

Nifty2g

I will give you my vote too

Wollust

Tbh I don't really mind it being undodgeable (and I mainly play stam classes) but I do mind the mechanics behind the ability. Alright it's a channel, it should do a lot of damage. That's all fair game to me. But currently, the way it is designed just promotes using it from 100% (granted said templar has buddys with him ofc). That is crap game play. And the reason is that the damage keeps scaling up while the target health goes down. That's why I'd like to see a change to that. You cast it on 100% health? You'll deal that exact damage for the whole channel or till you interrupt your channel. No more scaling up while others beat on the target at the same time.
This would make it useless to cast before execute range and would certainly help reduce the flak the ability is taking these days. And maybe reduce the execute range to 35% or 40%. 50% seems a bit excessive (same goes for executioner ofc)

leepalmer95

Idinuse wrote: »

No. One of few if not the only thing that can hit perma dodge shuffle players. I know they want 100% immunity to any damage in the game, but no.

No one perma dodge rolls, not anymore, there are ways to stop people rolling, cc's, aoe etc...

Even sticking dots on people is effective and they can't dodge roll the dmg, the amount of people i've got low only for them to dodge roll and for my poison injection to crit hit them for 6.5k.

Reapor

TequilaFire wrote: »

Some players just can't handle the simple means of avoiding/breaking RD and will always cry till they get their way just like every other thing that has ruined this game.
They quickly forget that a Templar has no mobility at all and is completely vulnerable during the channel time.
Hello Kitty!

The simple task of interrupting a attack at 30+ meters during the 2.2 seconds of life u have left.

clayandaudrey_ESO

leepalmer95

TequilaFire wrote: »

Some players just can't handle the simple means of avoiding/breaking RD and will always cry till they get their way just like every other thing that has ruined this game.
They quickly forget that a Templar has no mobility at all and is completely vulnerable during the channel time.
Hello Kitty!

So hope theres some line of sight around or hope i'm literally next to the templar, as soon as they press beam the first tick hits, then you've got 1s to someone stop the other tick from killing you, assuming they hit you at around 40/50%, if your 30%~ the first tick will insta kill you, if you heal slightly it'll still kill you. If you cc when they beam your dead.

Templar mobility has nothing to do with beam...

SwaminoNowlino

QQ QQ

MaxwellC

Yeah I think the range is a tad bit fair or make it dodge-able so it doesn't affect PvE because getting hit by a 24k RD from across the map since I killed 3 enemies, while the templar hits from down hall is absolutely ridiculous.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Reapor wrote: »

All it needs is the extra damage lowering from activating at 50% to 25%.

Btw anyone who thinks 1 shotting people from 50% is fine, are morons.

Not that i disagree... But doesnt that mean any skill that can pull off 8-10k in a hit needs nerfed? Oh wait, im sure jesus beam is the only skill that can do that.

Robbmrp

Morathras wrote: »

as a templar i say yes.

I agree but ONLY if the initial hit was dodged. You shouldn't be able to dodge out of it after the initial impact. If you dodge, the spell doesn't cast leaving the caster with the magicka it would have cost had it hit. I think that would be fair for both sides.

Bashev

Robbmrp wrote: »

Morathras wrote: »

as a templar i say yes.

I agree but ONLY if the initial hit was dodged. You shouldn't be able to dodge out of it after the initial impact. If you dodge, the spell doesn't cast leaving the caster with the magicka it would have cost had it hit. I think that would be fair for both sides.

The other way around sounds better. You cannot dodge the first tick but you can break the beam when you dodge.