heres to hoping next few DLC are NOT stealth targeted.

dsalter

3/4 of the DLC so far have been aimed at the stealth playstyle.
Theives guild.
Dark brootherhood.
Gank City.

hope to see puzzle or heavy combat/story based dlc in future rather than whats been fed to us 3 times already. orsinium was great. other 3... well the saying goes "to much of anything will get boring pretty fast"

Ra'Shtar

dsalter wrote: »

3/4 of the DLC so far have been aimed at the stealth playstyle.
Theives guild.
Dark brootherhood.
Gank City.

hope to see puzzle or heavy combat/story based dlc in future rather than whats been fed to us 3 times already. orsinium was great. other 3... well the saying goes "to much of anything will get boring pretty fast"

Me too, i got bored already

Mettaricana

I'm mpre irritated at the fact we got three skill lines that do the same thing legedermain theives guild and whatever the dark brother hood skill line is

Turelus

That's what happens when the community spends the first year screaming about why TG and DB were not in the game as they're core guilds.

They have covered most of the "core" Elder Scrolls content now so I would imagine the new stuff will be more akin to Wrothgar without skill lines and focused on new PvE content.

Lysette

You clearly don't understand why these 2 guilds have been added to the game - in short, these are essential guilds in TES, they are in TES for at least 13 years and a TES game without it is not really a TES game - so ZOS had to add these 2 guilds.

Lysette

Mettaricana wrote: »

I'm mpre irritated at the fact we got three skill lines that do the same thing legedermain theives guild and whatever the dark brother hood skill line is

The problem here was, because these skill lines were DLC content, they had to be made so, that they are not essential to have in pvp combat - so that people have the option to either buy those DLCs, if they are interested into the content, or leave these DLCs alone, if they are not interested into them. So no one is forced to do these quest lines and acquire the skill lines, because they are made so, that they support the DLC related playstyle, but are otherwise non-essential skills. Basically the same goes with DLC related armor sets in thief troves for example - they are great for a stealthy playstyle, but are otherwise rather useless, if someone is not into stealthy gameplay.

WillhelmBlack

Haven't even done the DLC's. Sub since release.

Faulgor

Lysette wrote: »

You clearly don't understand why these 2 guilds have been added to the game - in short, these are essential guilds in TES, they are in TES for at least 13 years and a TES game without it is not really a TES game - so ZOS had to add these 2 guilds.

Well, Dark Brotherhood wasn't playable in Morrowind.

Lysette

Faulgor wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

You clearly don't understand why these 2 guilds have been added to the game - in short, these are essential guilds in TES, they are in TES for at least 13 years and a TES game without it is not really a TES game - so ZOS had to add these 2 guilds.

Well, Dark Brotherhood wasn't playable in Morrowind.

But it was there, the guild existed. And you got to know about them early on in the game - I remember to be attacked in the mage guild in Balmora, I guess it was, on a relatively low level by a bunch of dark brothers.

SublimeSparo

But I thought everybody was a gankblade and into this type of thing /s

Anhedonie

I hope next area will feature the great Telvanni magical dudes and different stuff for casters.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Stealthy play style is not the problem needing 1000 mats to make new gear every update and paying a good price for small empty zones full of people farming for mats. Is a pain.

Now I support the change to have more of a role on the forums from the devs and community managers main reason I resubed. We are not where we need to be it talking and listing is the first step
In the right direction.

DLC needs to be able to hold it's own without forcing you to grind. Have yet to see this but hey here's hoping.

Rakkul

dsalter wrote: »

3/4 of the DLC so far have been aimed at the stealth playstyle.
Theives guild.
Dark brootherhood.
Gank City.

hope to see puzzle or heavy combat/story based dlc in future rather than whats been fed to us 3 times already. orsinium was great. other 3... well the saying goes "to much of anything will get boring pretty fast"

DB should have been in with TG, as it's more of the same thing. Sneak Rob/Kill....
Game doesn't need yet another stealth villain drudge grind.

Next dlc needs to break away from this we're all villains cloning, otherwise the game will start to look like a poor man's Gotham series - and that was flaming awful.

Bring in some variety and lighten the scenario with a heroic themed dlc. Give characters the opportunity to do some good in the world, giving the feeling that they are improving the environment.

For those who don't want this - carry on stealth robbing/killing - there's enough of that "look I'm a bad man" in the game already.

Lysette

Anhedonie wrote: »

I hope next area will feature the great Telvanni magical dudes and different stuff for casters.

There is some evidence, that Vvardenfell will happen - the question is just when.

SublimeSparo

Hopefully the clockwork city storyline as hinted at in wrothgar. I don't really care as long as there like 4 new hard dungeons/ maybe another trial

Lysette

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Stealthy play style is not the problem needing 1000 mats to make new gear every update and paying a good price for small empty zones full of people farming for mats. Is a pain.

Now I support the change to have more of a role on the forums from the devs and community managers main reason I resubed. We are not where we need to be it talking and listing is the first step
In the right direction.

DLC needs to be able to hold it's own without forcing you to grind. Have yet to see this but hey here's hoping.

See, the problem is not game design, if you grind, it is you, what has to change. You are making it a grind fest, it is not the game which is doing that at all. It is your view on how this game has to be played in your opinion which makes it that dull.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Rakkul wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

3/4 of the DLC so far have been aimed at the stealth playstyle.
Theives guild.
Dark brootherhood.
Gank City.

hope to see puzzle or heavy combat/story based dlc in future rather than whats been fed to us 3 times already. orsinium was great. other 3... well the saying goes "to much of anything will get boring pretty fast"

DB should have been in with TG, as it's more of the same thing. Sneak Rob/Kill....
Game doesn't need yet another stealth villain drudge grind.

Next dlc needs to break away from this we're all villains cloning, otherwise the game will start to look like a poor man's Gotham series - and that was flaming awful.

Bring in some variety and lighten the scenario with a heroic themed dlc. Give characters the opportunity to do some good in the world, giving the feeling that they are improving the environment.

For those who don't want this - carry on stealth robbing/killing - there's enough of that "look I'm a bad man" in the game already.

Dude what game are you play we are all saints here saved the world, saved our alliance leaders, hero of this, savior of that and let's not got get to thank "_____" you were at "_____" we are at worst lovable anti Heroes.

Sigma957

Well arn't thieves and dark brotherhood all about being stealthy whether it be stealing or assassinations. I can play these dlc's quite easily on my non stealth characters.

Taisynn

I hope the next DLC expands the storylines like Wrothgar did... And I really hope the next one is indeed Vardenfell.

But OMG no. No puzzle DLC!

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Lysette wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Stealthy play style is not the problem needing 1000 mats to make new gear every update and paying a good price for small empty zones full of people farming for mats. Is a pain.

Now I support the change to have more of a role on the forums from the devs and community managers main reason I resubed. We are not where we need to be it talking and listing is the first step
In the right direction.

DLC needs to be able to hold it's own without forcing you to grind. Have yet to see this but hey here's hoping.

See, the problem is not game design, if you grind, it is you, what has to change. You are making it a grind fest, it is not the game which is doing that at all. It is your view on how this game has to be played in your opinion which makes it that dull.

The endless grinds kill PvE for me the quest are pretty fun when it's not your 7-8th tine doing it. I spend hours farming mats just to have the new set that made the last ones near useless more time is playing farming and grinding for gear so you can get to what you really want to do.

Ch4mpTW

I agree OP. It's really starting to annoy me that the developers keep making these DLC's that cater to the Nightblade class. As you said, 3 out of 4 expansions promote stealth play. Really ZOS? Not everyone is a Nightblade, and or wants to use Nightblades. Let alone rely on stealth.

Even the damn "class balancing" has been in stealth/Nightblade's favor, for 3 out of 4 updates. Nightblades have remained either #1 or #2 class for 3 out of 4 updates, while being incredibly easy to use. It takes zero skill to play a Nightblade (proof is in PVP and VMSA), as the class is often suggested to beginners for ease of play. Both PVP and VMSA is a cake walk as a Nightblade.

Can we please have content that focuses on other classes please, ZOS? Can you please stop focusing on trying to make players be assassins/rouges? I'd appreciate it.

Lysette

Taisynn wrote: »

I hope the next DLC expands the storylines like Wrothgar did... And I really hope the next one is indeed Vardenfell.

But OMG no. No puzzle DLC!

it would be a clever move from ZOS, if it would be Vvardenfell - it would attract all those, who are not playing ESO yet, but did play Morrowind - I guess, they would be eager to see and experience Vvardenfell in a modern game with better graphics and voice acting instead to have to read all. This might really bring in some coin for ZOS, if they market and advertise it properly.

Lysette

Sigma957 wrote: »

Well arn't thieves and dark brotherhood all about being stealthy whether it be stealing or assassinations. I can play these dlc's quite easily on my non stealth characters.

Yeah, stealth is not really good in ESO - range based, shadows and/or covers play no role in it at all, neither does line of sight - strange way to implement that.

Lysette

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Stealthy play style is not the problem needing 1000 mats to make new gear every update and paying a good price for small empty zones full of people farming for mats. Is a pain.

Now I support the change to have more of a role on the forums from the devs and community managers main reason I resubed. We are not where we need to be it talking and listing is the first step
In the right direction.

DLC needs to be able to hold it's own without forcing you to grind. Have yet to see this but hey here's hoping.

See, the problem is not game design, if you grind, it is you, what has to change. You are making it a grind fest, it is not the game which is doing that at all. It is your view on how this game has to be played in your opinion which makes it that dull.

The endless grinds kill PvE for me the quest are pretty fun when it's not your 7-8th tine doing it. I spend hours farming mats just to have the new set that made the last ones near useless more time is playing farming and grinding for gear so you can get to what you really want to do.

I can see that this is bothering you - but is top-end gear really that different to each other, that you have to recraft it after a new DLC is coming out?- Is there no way to do that with the old gear as well?- Does it always have to be the meta-gear or could a change in your tactics bring good results as well?- I don''t know about it yet, but this might be something to think about for you. If you are not having fun playing the game, because it became work, maybe another way to play the game is imminent then. You are here to have fun, not to work in the game. But this is not a game issue, it is a play issue and you are the only one, who can change your hehavior and make changes to the way in which you play to avoid grinding.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I agree OP. It's really starting to annoy me that the developers keep making these DLC's that cater to the Nightblade class. As you said, 3 out of 4 expansions promote stealth play. Really ZOS? Not everyone is a Nightblade, and or wants to use Nightblades. Let alone rely on stealth.

Even the damn "class balancing" has been in stealth/Nightblade's favor, for 3 out of 4 updates. Nightblades have remained either #1 or #2 class for 3 out of 4 updates, while being incredibly easy to use. It takes zero skill to play a Nightblade (proof is in PVP and VMSA), as the class is often suggested to beginners for ease of play. Both PVP and VMSA is a cake walk as a Nightblade.

Can we please have content that focuses on other classes please, ZOS? Can you please stop focusing on trying to make players be assassins/rouges? I'd appreciate it.

Okay first many of us wanted these guilds at launch, both assassins and pick pockets like not being seen so yea a class that can turn invisible had a clear advantage granted that the ONLY thing that helps us go dark better but it's pretty good.

Nightblades takes a lot skill to play. Have you tired not running a glass canon build? Let me let you in on how the classes are made aka how they get balanced.
Nightblades Melee burst canon
Sorcerers range delayed canon
Templars Tank that can heal and keep allies up
Dragon Knight Tanks that wear down your health
Now that's how the classes are balanced now if you want to run a canon build on your tank class you clearly can but you can also be put canoned. Tanky Dragon Knight don't have problems, Sorcerer with base health and no instant burst are still just as good if you don't try to face
Tank.

When you can all offense the class with the better offense wins we play to our strengths you play against yours who needs to L2P here?

WeaselGod

Mettaricana wrote: »

I'm mpre irritated at the fact we got three skill lines that do the same thing legedermain theives guild and whatever the dark brother hood skill line is

I actually enjoy the 50% stealth while mounted passive in the DB skill line even though my character isn't a sneak thief

Teridaxus

Who said you need stealth in dark brotherhood?

http://imgur.com/e7Vbb

j3crow

Rakkul wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

3/4 of the DLC so far have been aimed at the stealth playstyle.
Theives guild.
Dark brootherhood.
Gank City.

hope to see puzzle or heavy combat/story based dlc in future rather than whats been fed to us 3 times already. orsinium was great. other 3... well the saying goes "to much of anything will get boring pretty fast"

DB should have been in with TG, as it's more of the same thing. Sneak Rob/Kill....
Game doesn't need yet another stealth villain drudge grind.

Next dlc needs to break away from this we're all villains cloning, otherwise the game will start to look like a poor man's Gotham series - and that was flaming awful.

Bring in some variety and lighten the scenario with a heroic themed dlc. Give characters the opportunity to do some good in the world, giving the feeling that they are improving the environment.

For those who don't want this - carry on stealth robbing/killing - there's enough of that "look I'm a bad man" in the game already.

I agree.

I mentioned in another similar post, that I'd like to see something other than another 'bad guy' DLC in the future. I'm not knocking DB or TG. They're fun in their own way. But I've had enough of anti-hero / villain stuff.

I and others mentioned the Dawnguard. You could even have some stealth elements, but have it focused on serving the 'good', not just being evil.

Maybe in the future they should pair the good guy and bad guy stuff together. Dawngaurd with a vampire Coven, or the Morag Tong with serving the Tribunal.

Anhedonie

Lysette wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

I hope next area will feature the great Telvanni magical dudes and different stuff for casters.

There is some evidence, that Vvardenfell will happen - the question is just when.

Can't happen too soon.

Lysette

Anhedonie wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

I hope next area will feature the great Telvanni magical dudes and different stuff for casters.

There is some evidence, that Vvardenfell will happen - the question is just when.

Can't happen too soon.

I actually hope for this year - as their big announcement of the 2nd half of this year, to be released around christmas. But that is just what I hope for - do not see that as a fact.

Edit: and this time around hopefully with less annoying clff racers.

themdogesbite

Im still waiting for a DLC that will fix the problems we currently have instead of adding even more of them.