Why North American truelflame EP, WHY??

PosternHouse · May 2016

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

God_flakes · May 2016

tonemd wrote: »

Jau...eh..God Fla

God_flakes wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Well if people would just tune out and filter DC zone chat some they'd avoid all this ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0

Right? He can set me to ignore and lead his group to 20+ wipes against Unruh for hours at a time. Whatever. But please Rdmyers, explain to me how you're helping DC by doing this?

People in general are not helping when grouped with leaders that run them into the same wall over and over . If this is the group "I think" it is , you're probably wasting effort trying to communicate . I could be wrong as to who it is .

Telel finds that those who want to see people play better are best served by leading groups the way they should be led, and inviting more people into them so they see how it should be done.

They also find that scolding the purposefully bad is quite cathartic but ultimately does little else. People who wish to help the opposition level up are going to do so no matter how many times they're told they should just re roll for the other side.

This is why khajiit has resorted to leading PUGs despite their own lack of patience and skill. It is what some might call putting one's coins where they ingest bloody meats ripped whole from the flesh of their prey.

Still though, this one will likely never stop scolding the lemmings and leeches. They're just to willfully ignorant and numerous to fully ignore.

Awesome . I completely agree . That's why I enjoy helping those I can and adding to my ignore list those I I've tried but can't , that still rage about losing after . I clear them off in a few days just to read if they've healed yet .

I get asked frequently to yell something in zone because people know I will do it, Idgaf whose toes I trample and it does usually work. People DO listen. I have for some reason had sway with my ungrouped brothers at arms. But when you don't listen and you get farmed for 2 hours...ya got nerve coming here and giving me lip about it.

J...eh...God Flakes, your caps locked "suggestions" only have sway in the vacuum of commands that tend to happen when the organized groups are concentrating on objectives, or have logged, or have defended ales for 2 hours and now its all to Chalamo You could get the same results without the hyperbole. But, that is your style.

In general, many of us "ungrouped" are just looking for swords and reading zone for the action. When communication shuts down we tend to just stay where the action is until the deaths outnumber the kills.

There was a time when large guilds would have an organized guild only group and a pug group. Do people still do that these days? Beyond Guard and SG I don't see alot of pug pick up. And without constant zone communication, the PuGs cannot be directed to where they will be most useful.

You have meat shields, use them.

Guard does NOT pick up pugs.

I realize I have meat shields. Most also respond to my caps and always have. Some don't. That's ok. I have done all three forms of leading: I have lead pugs, I have lead organized groups and I have capped in zone. I find capping is just as helpful as leading pugs and less stressful for me.

PrinceFabious · May 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

frozywozy · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Yeah, they did the same (DC) the night before the GvG tournament aswell. But AD got them dethroned during the day.

PosternHouse · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

Stop what you're doing, go back, and reread the post. Then think about how stupid what you just typed is. (Don't burst a blood vessel!)

Ghost-Shot · May 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

Stop what you're doing, go back, and reread the post. Then think about how stupid what you just typed is. (Don't burst a blood vessel!)

Words are hard, I'm going to go do flame warden things.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

Roehamad_Ali wrote: »

Well if people would just tune out and filter DC zone chat some they'd avoid all this ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-LCsiWL6gn0

Right? He can set me to ignore and lead his group to 20+ wipes against Unruh for hours at a time. Whatever. But please Rdmyers, explain to me how you're helping DC by doing this?

People in general are not helping when grouped with leaders that run them into the same wall over and over . If this is the group "I think" it is , you're probably wasting effort trying to communicate . I could be wrong as to who it is .

Telel finds that those who want to see people play better are best served by leading groups the way they should be led, and inviting more people into them so they see how it should be done.

They also find that scolding the purposefully bad is quite cathartic but ultimately does little else. People who wish to help the opposition level up are going to do so no matter how many times they're told they should just re roll for the other side.

This is why khajiit has resorted to leading PUGs despite their own lack of patience and skill. It is what some might call putting one's coins where they ingest bloody meats ripped whole from the flesh of their prey.

Still though, this one will likely never stop scolding the lemmings and leeches. They're just to willfully ignorant and numerous to fully ignore.

Awesome . I completely agree . That's why I enjoy helping those I can and adding to my ignore list those I I've tried but can't , that still rage about losing after . I clear them off in a few days just to read if they've healed yet .

I get asked frequently to yell something in zone because people know I will do it, Idgaf whose toes I trample and it does usually work. People DO listen. I have for some reason had sway with my ungrouped brothers at arms. But when you don't listen and you get farmed for 2 hours...ya got nerve coming here and giving me lip about it.

The power to pursued Pugs . Jedi mind trick or coincidence ? Hmmmm

PrinceFabious · May 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

Stop what you're doing, go back, and reread the post. Then think about how stupid what you just typed is. (Don't burst a blood vessel!)

Reread and I still hear that you are trying to justify night capping..lol

Ghostbane · May 2016

Re-read what I read that someone wrote, based on what I read then wrote about.

antihero727 · May 2016

forzajuve212 wrote: »

Currently 12pm EST and EP have a high pop in TF and put together a 50 man zerg to take alessia from 10 AD.... lol. This is pathetic.

EDIT:

And EP have emp for almost 5 days.... this camp is gonna be Haderus AD 2.0 very soon if it keeps up.

This has been had 2.0 before had 2.0 existed. This is what caused the AD influx to Hadrus. FYI EP you only have your Zerg-lord selves to blame in the end.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

How did we go from Trueflame to Haderus and why . Also how come we have to re read what some have wrote to double check what has been written but not understood from earlier reading of said written post . You may also wonder why I'm not using question marks .

Because I'm talking to my self @Roehamad_Ali so that the rules of conversation that @Gidorick explained stay enforced

Minno · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew

.

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

PrinceFabious · May 2016

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

Wing · May 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Between the crashes and the load screens, it is very frustrating to even try to PVP. From what I have seen, DC is very fractured. We have a loud player who screams in zone if we are not following her orders. Same one who berated us for fighting for 2 hours at DC as we tried to oust the squatting AD. I hate to break it to you but DC is as valid a home keep as Ales, so if you have a guild fighting to defend a home keep, SHUT YOUR D*MN MOUTH. ALL of the DC understand that the EP is running 60+. We can't fight those numbers. So if we can find a competitive battle with the AD (Ya'll who have been squatting are pretty good players) that are running a group that is about the same size as ours, then don't berate us in zone for finding PVP instead of being trampled by 5 to 1 odds by the EP.

With any luck, this will all change next week.

That's me screaming at you because you're being potatoes trying to oust Unruh. You guys stupidly fed him mass amounts of ap for two hours and you're going to sit here and 1. Admit that? and 2. Complain that you did so because you refuse to listen to more seasoned leaders? I watched you guys get farmed for half an hour. You weren't taking a darn thing back. You were wasting your time! Unruh is only there to farm DC. I understand it's a home keep. But you need to learn when to cash in your chips and move to another part of the map and away from blatant farms.

Oh and P.S I'd love to see you just try and make me shut my mouth.

I assume this is about dragonclaw?

yeah AD also calls those guys out, the trolls in the north, we actually got a scroll back from EP and they rez'd at the keep we took, stole the scroll, then ran back to dragonclaw with it (till it reset) going on about how they are just having fun and can play anyway they want and we are all just being mean to them for being trolls.

we have enough issues dealing with the other alliances without having to deal with the trolls within our own.

God_flakes · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

IMO, if faction A is nightcapping and pvdooring and winning, factions B and C can and should also nightcap and pvdoor if possible to close the gap. The same goes for rampage gate camping and tri keep capping. If faction A is behaving ruthlessly then the other two should meet fire with fire. All is fair in love and war.

But that being said, this is a game at the end of the day. I am not your rl enemy. In fact you would probably like me in rl. Therefore, when you have a huge wide point margin and there is only a few days left in the campaign....pvdooring, night capping, gate camping, tri keep griefing and sending 30 to kill one lonely NB in a dead server is gratuitous shite gameplay. If you're guilty of it own it and stop deflecting.

Minno · May 2016

Wing wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Between the crashes and the load screens, it is very frustrating to even try to PVP. From what I have seen, DC is very fractured. We have a loud player who screams in zone if we are not following her orders. Same one who berated us for fighting for 2 hours at DC as we tried to oust the squatting AD. I hate to break it to you but DC is as valid a home keep as Ales, so if you have a guild fighting to defend a home keep, SHUT YOUR D*MN MOUTH. ALL of the DC understand that the EP is running 60+. We can't fight those numbers. So if we can find a competitive battle with the AD (Ya'll who have been squatting are pretty good players) that are running a group that is about the same size as ours, then don't berate us in zone for finding PVP instead of being trampled by 5 to 1 odds by the EP.

With any luck, this will all change next week.

That's me screaming at you because you're being potatoes trying to oust Unruh. You guys stupidly fed him mass amounts of ap for two hours and you're going to sit here and 1. Admit that? and 2. Complain that you did so because you refuse to listen to more seasoned leaders? I watched you guys get farmed for half an hour. You weren't taking a darn thing back. You were wasting your time! Unruh is only there to farm DC. I understand it's a home keep. But you need to learn when to cash in your chips and move to another part of the map and away from blatant farms.

Oh and P.S I'd love to see you just try and make me shut my mouth.

I assume this is about dragonclaw?

yeah AD also calls those guys out, the trolls in the north, we actually got a scroll back from EP and they rez'd at the keep we took, stole the scroll, then ran back to dragonclaw with it (till it reset) going on about how they are just having fun and can play anyway they want and we are all just being mean to them for being trolls.

we have enough issues dealing with the other alliances without having to deal with the trolls within our own.

DC wishes it had the group to wipe them easily. If we did, I doubt we would be having this thread or issue on TF.

A few AD have been helping (at least me) target EP only. Even saw chief help us take out some EP before rolling away.

Trying to keep DC from hitting AD and vice versa will be hard (even I was at faregyl last night looking for an equal fight

).

PainfulFAFA · May 2016

Wing wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Between the crashes and the load screens, it is very frustrating to even try to PVP. From what I have seen, DC is very fractured. We have a loud player who screams in zone if we are not following her orders. Same one who berated us for fighting for 2 hours at DC as we tried to oust the squatting AD. I hate to break it to you but DC is as valid a home keep as Ales, so if you have a guild fighting to defend a home keep, SHUT YOUR D*MN MOUTH. ALL of the DC understand that the EP is running 60+. We can't fight those numbers. So if we can find a competitive battle with the AD (Ya'll who have been squatting are pretty good players) that are running a group that is about the same size as ours, then don't berate us in zone for finding PVP instead of being trampled by 5 to 1 odds by the EP.

With any luck, this will all change next week.

That's me screaming at you because you're being potatoes trying to oust Unruh. You guys stupidly fed him mass amounts of ap for two hours and you're going to sit here and 1. Admit that? and 2. Complain that you did so because you refuse to listen to more seasoned leaders? I watched you guys get farmed for half an hour. You weren't taking a darn thing back. You were wasting your time! Unruh is only there to farm DC. I understand it's a home keep. But you need to learn when to cash in your chips and move to another part of the map and away from blatant farms.

Oh and P.S I'd love to see you just try and make me shut my mouth.

I assume this is about dragonclaw?

yeah AD also calls those guys out, the trolls in the north, we actually got a scroll back from EP and they rez'd at the keep we took, stole the scroll, then ran back to dragonclaw with it (till it reset) going on about how they are just having fun and can play anyway they want and we are all just being mean to them for being trolly D'bags.

There was a lot of AD mad at the yellow grp from Claw but most of the that bile came from the same AD who refuse to put camps, sieges, rezzes, scout reports, etc so really nobody should be saying anything.
But even if they decided to push the map, their 16man is not enough against invict, haxu, pactmilita, phoenix rise, voku, and the 40 other red meatshields.
At least they were able to split reds up and gave AD the chance to take Alessia TWICE before the red zerg began their faction stacking. Then DC went full potato mode and took Fare while the red zerg took everything back smh lol

God_flakes · May 2016

Wing wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Between the crashes and the load screens, it is very frustrating to even try to PVP. From what I have seen, DC is very fractured. We have a loud player who screams in zone if we are not following her orders. Same one who berated us for fighting for 2 hours at DC as we tried to oust the squatting AD. I hate to break it to you but DC is as valid a home keep as Ales, so if you have a guild fighting to defend a home keep, SHUT YOUR D*MN MOUTH. ALL of the DC understand that the EP is running 60+. We can't fight those numbers. So if we can find a competitive battle with the AD (Ya'll who have been squatting are pretty good players) that are running a group that is about the same size as ours, then don't berate us in zone for finding PVP instead of being trampled by 5 to 1 odds by the EP.

With any luck, this will all change next week.

That's me screaming at you because you're being potatoes trying to oust Unruh. You guys stupidly fed him mass amounts of ap for two hours and you're going to sit here and 1. Admit that? and 2. Complain that you did so because you refuse to listen to more seasoned leaders? I watched you guys get farmed for half an hour. You weren't taking a darn thing back. You were wasting your time! Unruh is only there to farm DC. I understand it's a home keep. But you need to learn when to cash in your chips and move to another part of the map and away from blatant farms.

Oh and P.S I'd love to see you just try and make me shut my mouth.

I assume this is about dragonclaw?

yeah AD also calls those guys out, the trolls in the north, we actually got a scroll back from EP and they rez'd at the keep we took, stole the scroll, then ran back to dragonclaw with it (till it reset) going on about how they are just having fun and can play anyway they want and we are all just being mean to them for being trolls.

we have enough issues dealing with the other alliances without having to deal with the trolls within our own.

Yes, sir. It's DC. And do you have any idea how many self professed AD leet are getting in on that childishness? They then have the nerve to come to this forum and act self righteous and superior.

Zheg · May 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

IMO, if faction A is nightcapping and pvdooring and winning, factions B and C can and should also nightcap and pvdoor if possible to close the gap. The same goes for rampage gate camping and tri keep capping. If faction A is behaving ruthlessly then the other two should meet fire with fire. All is fair in love and war.

But that being said, this is a game at the end of the day. I am not your rl enemy. In fact you would probably like me in rl. Therefore, when you have a huge wide point margin and there is only a few days left in the campaign....pvdooring, night capping, gate camping, tri keep griefing and sending 30 to kill one lonely NB in a dead server is gratuitous shite gameplay. If you're guilty of it own it and stop deflecting.

Jauriel can't win 1v30, confirmed. Needs to roll trollplar and get buffs from an inspiring /lute

We've beaten the topic dead at this point. We know who's doing it, explained and shamed, theyre apathetic, let's move on. I'm actually surprised this thread stayed open.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

Zheg wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

IMO, if faction A is nightcapping and pvdooring and winning, factions B and C can and should also nightcap and pvdoor if possible to close the gap. The same goes for rampage gate camping and tri keep capping. If faction A is behaving ruthlessly then the other two should meet fire with fire. All is fair in love and war.

But that being said, this is a game at the end of the day. I am not your rl enemy. In fact you would probably like me in rl. Therefore, when you have a huge wide point margin and there is only a few days left in the campaign....pvdooring, night capping, gate camping, tri keep griefing and sending 30 to kill one lonely NB in a dead server is gratuitous shite gameplay. If you're guilty of it own it and stop deflecting.

Jauriel can't win 1v30, confirmed. Needs to roll trollplar and get buffs from an inspiring /lute

We've beaten the topic dead at this point. We know who's doing it, explained and shamed, theyre apathetic, let's move on. I'm actually surprised this thread stayed open.

I'm inclined to agree . This thread is just hammering splintered wood

Makkir · May 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

The competition on Haderus last night was fantastic. The night started with AD totally dominating and and made a big stand at Brk for 1hour or 2. Then DC hold Brk also for a long time and in the end, EP got to stand up. The momentum switched from one faction to the other all night and I though it was great for a change. We had fights everywhere on the map from Bloodmayne to Ash and we could pick between multiple locations at once with action.

Again, please consider switching to Haderus if you are EP or DC.

Does DC have a somewhat decent off peak time presence? I have seen you playing every morning now when I log in for an hour or two, so I imagine you and I have similar play schedules.

Minno · May 2016

God_flakes wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

IMO, if faction A is nightcapping and pvdooring and winning, factions B and C can and should also nightcap and pvdoor if possible to close the gap. The same goes for rampage gate camping and tri keep capping. If faction A is behaving ruthlessly then the other two should meet fire with fire. All is fair in love and war.

But that being said, this is a game at the end of the day. I am not your rl enemy. In fact you would probably like me in rl. Therefore, when you have a huge wide point margin and there is only a few days left in the campaign....pvdooring, night capping, gate camping, tri keep griefing and sending 30 to kill one lonely NB in a dead server is gratuitous shite gameplay. If you're guilty of it own it and stop deflecting.

I wouldn't entertain. He's looking for ammo to use against Haderus guild groups instead of trying to appeal to some EP groups in TF to go to Haderus to help balance the pop levels.

Ghost-Shot · May 2016

Wing wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Between the crashes and the load screens, it is very frustrating to even try to PVP. From what I have seen, DC is very fractured. We have a loud player who screams in zone if we are not following her orders. Same one who berated us for fighting for 2 hours at DC as we tried to oust the squatting AD. I hate to break it to you but DC is as valid a home keep as Ales, so if you have a guild fighting to defend a home keep, SHUT YOUR D*MN MOUTH. ALL of the DC understand that the EP is running 60+. We can't fight those numbers. So if we can find a competitive battle with the AD (Ya'll who have been squatting are pretty good players) that are running a group that is about the same size as ours, then don't berate us in zone for finding PVP instead of being trampled by 5 to 1 odds by the EP.

With any luck, this will all change next week.

That's me screaming at you because you're being potatoes trying to oust Unruh. You guys stupidly fed him mass amounts of ap for two hours and you're going to sit here and 1. Admit that? and 2. Complain that you did so because you refuse to listen to more seasoned leaders? I watched you guys get farmed for half an hour. You weren't taking a darn thing back. You were wasting your time! Unruh is only there to farm DC. I understand it's a home keep. But you need to learn when to cash in your chips and move to another part of the map and away from blatant farms.

Oh and P.S I'd love to see you just try and make me shut my mouth.

I assume this is about dragonclaw?

yeah AD also calls those guys out, the trolls in the north, we actually got a scroll back from EP and they rez'd at the keep we took, stole the scroll, then ran back to dragonclaw with it (till it reset) going on about how they are just having fun and can play anyway they want and we are all just being mean to them for being trolls.

we have enough issues dealing with the other alliances without having to deal with the trolls within our own.

Well played Unruh, well played lol.

Minalan · May 2016

I keep hearing all of this "Team Orange".

This weekend: As a blue, I the reds inevitably come for us, in huge numbers. The yellows are bored because of this, and there aren't many of them. So they ride up and try to join in the three-way reindeer games.

The AD do kill whatever targets of opportunity present themselves, even if it looks like they're ganging up on blue, they're doing just as much to distract and break up the enormous red juggernaut.

TLDR; We need more TF AD to balance out, and we'll be fine.

God_flakes · May 2016

Minno wrote: »

God_flakes wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Well, this isnt the situation in Haderus. The few EP numbers here are some of the best. DC tried to push for EMP in prime time but got their ass handed to them. But look, I wake up and it was nightcapped at 5 am. Its no excuse for the ep night in TF but DC isnt in the clear from doing the same as well

Then DC got themselves an Alaskan/kiwi guild!

Lol no. It was khole. I hate to say it.. But it was

Isn't k-hole no more than 24 at primetime? If keeps were back-capped I'd assume no more than 12 were online at the time. A faction couldn't beat or stalemate 12 tired players?

Doesn't compare to TF where you'll see full raids running around zerging player and keeps.

I wish that made sense. You dont seem to understand that point im making. The "top" players of DC nightcapping while they complain in every other thread about other factions doing the same.

Let me add or rephrase:

Does k-hole have equal opposition at those keeps or against higher numbers? If yes, it can't be night calling as the term refers to large groups of players fighting smaller numbers in an effort to pvd keeps to flip the score. You effectively got outplayed by a 16 man crew .

If there are scrolls/emp, it was an effort to pull your emp out of hiding or attack a target where the zerg is less. Once again, not night capping.

If k-hole actively attacked keeps despite no opposition and no objective based reason to hit that keep, then its nightcapping. And you are correct in that its wrong.

The no tri-faction rule only applies if all sides agree to it, and if the factions are low popped to stimulate competitive pvp. If your faction attacked tri keeps for no reason, I wouldn't expect a peace offering.

Nightcapping is nightcapping. Thats all there is to it. The fact that you are even trying to defend is just plain disgusting. You must be a DC

IMO, if faction A is nightcapping and pvdooring and winning, factions B and C can and should also nightcap and pvdoor if possible to close the gap. The same goes for rampage gate camping and tri keep capping. If faction A is behaving ruthlessly then the other two should meet fire with fire. All is fair in love and war.

But that being said, this is a game at the end of the day. I am not your rl enemy. In fact you would probably like me in rl. Therefore, when you have a huge wide point margin and there is only a few days left in the campaign....pvdooring, night capping, gate camping, tri keep griefing and sending 30 to kill one lonely NB in a dead server is gratuitous shite gameplay. If you're guilty of it own it and stop deflecting.

I wouldn't entertain. He's looking for ammo to use against Haderus guild groups instead of trying to appeal to some EP groups in TF to go to Haderus to help balance the pop levels.

But he's fun to play with and every time I see his name I see this...

spectre303 · May 2016

PosternHouse · May 2016

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

Stop what you're doing, go back, and reread the post. Then think about how stupid what you just typed is. (Don't burst a blood vessel!)

Reread and I still hear that you are trying to justify night capping..lol

I'm just going to assume you were dropped on your head as a child at this point. Allow me to spell it out.

(i) Nightcapping is an anti-competitive activity where numbers are used to capture objectives against an underpopulated faction or factions, who are lacking numbers because of the time of day.
(addendum to premise i) Nightcapping is not capturing an objective at night time. The term nightcapping and daycapping refer to the same activity, the difference only being the interlocuter's geographical location and the rotation of the earth.
(ii) Khole captured objectives against a numerically similar or superior opposition faction or factions.

THEREFORE:
Khole did not nightcap.

I could draw it out with crayons if it will help.

PrinceFabious · May 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

It's a possibility that they were outnumbered, but their competition just sucked. A group of 12 is hardly a hardcore nightcap crew unless there's literally no one on. Capturing objectives that are defended, especially when outnumbered, is fair game in anyone's book.

Lol NOW DC IS DEFENDING NIGHTCAPPING! i shall mark this down in the books.

Stop what you're doing, go back, and reread the post. Then think about how stupid what you just typed is. (Don't burst a blood vessel!)

Reread and I still hear that you are trying to justify night capping..lol

I'm just going to assume you were dropped on your head as a child at this point. Allow me to spell it out.

(i) Nightcapping is an anti-competitive activity where numbers are used to capture objectives against an underpopulated faction or factions, who are lacking numbers because of the time of day.
(addendum to premise i) Nightcapping is not capturing an objective at night time. The term nightcapping and daycapping refer to the same activity, the difference only being the interlocuter's geographical location and the rotation of the earth.
(ii) Khole captured objectives against a numerically similar or superior opposition faction or factions.

THEREFORE:
Khole did not nightcap.

I could draw it out with crayons if it will help.

Sigh. I will explain it. Nightcapping is when players organize and push keeps when the oppossing factions are not at their strongest. Hence the word "night" cap. When the strongest players are sleeping on a Tuesday night to go to work in the morning but some players will stay up to take advantage of this. What khole did has tainted their name. Pitiful and disgusting that you are even trying to defend it.

PosternHouse · May 2016

No. Nightcapping refers to mass amounts of people capturing objectives against a faction or factions that have logged off to sleep or have not not logged in because of work or school. Just because nighttime/daytime EP is bad and can't fight evenly numbered or even with superior numbers does not a nightcap make.

The strength of the players is irrelevant. You don't get to redefine terms the community has been using for two years. Khole fighting players weaker than them is typically the case; there just happens to be a lot of inferior players. Just accept the fact that you were dropped on your head and be done with it.

Rohamad_Ali · May 2016

Yes , nightcapping is when a faction with more population PvDoors the entire map while the other factions is mostly asleep or at work still . It's bad and it makes people feel bad . Just look at the rage it creates ...