Ok ZOS, can you please address Clouding Swarm? Still BUGGED.

KenaPKK · July 2016

@kendellking_chaosb14_ESO NO. Stop assuming you know how the skill "should" work based on other mechanics. The skill was perfectly balanced before when it was permanent invis through which you couldn't single target. When someone used invis bats, you knew to start kiting and use AoEs. It was a 3 second ult. That isn't long. You knew they'd be going full offense, so you just waited it out and played defensively for a few seconds if you didn't have a detect pot or something to use. It was a really unique and flavorful mechanic with clear threat but clear counterplay as well. You're supposed to transform into a cloud of bats. What's targetable in that??

STOP ENCOURAGING ZOS TO DUMB EVERYTHING DOWN.

Draxys · July 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

Before you couldn't target someone with single target moves( hard cast crystal frags or procced, dark flare, surprise attack) now I can reverse slice them the entire time with no dots or Aoe active. You can Jesus beam them for the entire duration.

To be fair it should take you out when you hit someone so for that second you should be targetable but channels should lose target lock after one second. I have no problem with single target working sometimes it's not 6 seconds of full invisibly while attacking but channels should not have a lock (unless you have mark target, Mage light, flare or det pot on)

Uhhhh what?

Both of your posts are so confusing. Clouding swarm doesn't grant invisibility once every second and it doesn't break on doing damage.

Neowit · July 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just letting you all know that we are aware of this bug, but don't have an exact time frame for an implemented fix. We'll let you know when we have a better idea.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Sorry to tag you here, I know you get enough of that as is. Please don't take offense if this seems kind of crude, but a request to fix a broken ability shouldn't be responded to with any variation of the phrase "no ETA." Abilities are not small, inconspicuous elements of the game which can be glossed over in favor of greater priorities. Vamp is still bugged: CS is not working, and mist form still allows certain snares to be placed (all snares in pve) on the caster while active. Other abilities in other skill lines have also had major bugs/exploits pointed out to the devs. They get ignored when they should be hotfixed. Or at the very least made a top concern. When stuff like this is allowed to continue unattended to, it comes to feel like there is a lack of concern by Zenimax over the quality of the product they push to the consumer. This hurts the faith of the consumer, and has the potential to chip at the base that keeps the whole operation running. It's both bad ethical and business practice.

I know you don't have total control over the situation here, but we would all deeply appreciate it if you could push to work on these issues where you can.

Speaking for myself, the only thing so far to really make me consider leaving this game has been broken abilities and lag. These are the only things that keep eso feeling inferior to other MMOs.

If you've read this, thank you for your time and concern.

itscompton · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Nope still derpy. I've switched to devouring on my mageblade now that vamp isn't so prone to getting one shot and the mist form buffs. It's nice...but not the same. Definitely more defensive than offensive, which ain't my style.

The zergs I wipe by running into them using devouring swarm+punturing sweeps+vicious death would disagree with it not being offensive

KenaPKK · July 2016

itscompton wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Nope still derpy. I've switched to devouring on my mageblade now that vamp isn't so prone to getting one shot and the mist form buffs. It's nice...but not the same. Definitely more defensive than offensive, which ain't my style.

The zergs I wipe by running into them using devouring swarm+punturing sweeps+vicious death would disagree with it not being offensive

Not with my build. I'm a nightblade. I get a stealth damage bonus, and I'm likely squishier than your magplar. Devouring swarm is strong on tanky people who can't be bursted down by said zerg. Keeps 'em topped off between hits.

Also if you had clouding swarm, your enemy Zerg wouldn't be able to see what you're doing in your bats and thus would react much slower or not at all, resorting to panic or confusion. Devouring just protects you from the AoE burst that you'd be susceptible to in clouding, so yes, it is more defensive, as I said.

itscompton · July 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

itscompton wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Nope still derpy. I've switched to devouring on my mageblade now that vamp isn't so prone to getting one shot and the mist form buffs. It's nice...but not the same. Definitely more defensive than offensive, which ain't my style.

The zergs I wipe by running into them using devouring swarm+punturing sweeps+vicious death would disagree with it not being offensive

Not with my build. I'm a nightblade. I'm get a stealth damage bonus, and I'm likely squishier than your magplar. Devouring swarm is strong on tanky people who can't be bursted down by said zerg. Keeps 'em topped off between hits.

Also if you had clouding swarm, your enemy Zerg wouldn't be able to see what you're doing in your bats and thus would react much slower or not at all, resorting to panic or confusion. Devouring just protects you from the AoE burst that you'd be susceptible to in clouding, so yes, it is more defensive, as I said.

Ehh anytime anybody ever came at me with clouding when it was working I'd just spam puncturing sweeps into the middle of the cloud, only a newb or dummy wouldn't know where to target to hit the person using it. Certainly get what you mean about it synergizing with stealth bonus damage to make the move more offensive for your NB. But when I can wade into 7+ people and wipe them and they cant budge my health I certainly feel like an offensive juggernaut.

GreenSoup2HoT · August 2016

I miss clouding for my stamblade. Was a nice escape ultimate if i needed to dip out of a zerg that was after me.

Lucky28 · August 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just letting you all know that we are aware of this bug, but don't have an exact time frame for an implemented fix. We'll let you know when we have a better idea.

well, at least we now know for sure it's a bug and not intended XD

i can live with that.

KenaPKK · August 2016

This needs to be reverted too!!

Detector · August 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just letting you all know that we are aware of this bug, but don't have an exact time frame for an implemented fix. We'll let you know when we have a better idea.

If enemy can atack vampire in Clouding Swarm than vampire must get buff (-X% damage if Clouding Swarm is active). Or more damage for this morph.

Lexxypwns · August 2016

Sad

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
@Wrobel

Can we please get this looked at and fixed? It has been months

IxSTALKERxI · August 2016

Fix Clouding Swarm!

Lexxypwns · August 2016

I mean, come on. My NB tank build has plenty of heals coming in, while there's decent damage there, I really could use the bonus from being invis during clouding swarm, instead I've just got more heals I don't need.

Detector · August 2016

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Fix Clouding Swarm!

Yes. I want it too. We wait this fix so long...

Koolio · September 2016

Still no fix

alduiin · September 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

You can target players in Clouding Swarm with single target abilities as well as light and heavy attacks. The entire purpose of what used to be a balanced, fun, and unique skill has been defeated.

What's the status on investigating the bug and returning Clouding Swarm to how it was pre-Thieves Guild patch?

Thank you.

No ETA.

lmao

IxSTALKERxI · September 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Can we please get this looked at and fixed? It has been months

I feel your pain

RoamingRiverElk · September 2016

How come there's no fix for this yet, it was acknowledged to be a bug such a long time ago! And meanwhile, new weapon ultimates are introduced???

xANTIxMATTERx · September 2016

Fix pls

Koolio · September 2016

It's getting to a point now that I want a refund for every character I purchased this with crowns for. First the vampirism with mind shriven skin "fix" which really grinds my gears. Then months of a broken ultimate. I paid for this(crowns because of convenience)I want this to work. Don't even care for the crowns.

PS4_ZeColmeia · September 2016

Yeah, I switched to this and am hating the fact I can be targeted by mobs and people, and I'm locked out of other skills for the duration. Meaning I can't heal myself and can be attacked at the same time.

My guess is this is broken for the same reason the nb stealth skill is broken. We really need to fix this skill and have it back to unbreakable stealth that detect pots are the only counter (it should not have anything able to break you out of it unless we get the capability to cast at least a vampire skill during it).

Can we get an update if this is getting updated in Update 12? @ZOS_GinaBruno thanks in advance!

Alpheu5 · September 2016

PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »

Yeah, I switched to this and am hating the fact I can be targeted by mobs and people, and I'm locked out of other skills for the duration. Meaning I can't heal myself and can be attacked at the same time.

My guess is this is broken for the same reason the nb stealth skill is broken. We really need to fix this skill and have it back to unbreakable stealth that detect pots are the only counter (it should not have anything able to break you out of it unless we get the capability to cast at least a vampire skill during it).

Can we get an update if this is getting updated in Update 12? @ZOS_GinaBruno thanks in advance!

I was using it yesterday on the PTS and was able to cast skills during the duration just fine, including heals. I haven't formally had someone test to see if you're still targetable, but when I used it on someone they said I vanished on their screen, plus I got the sneak eye which said I was hidden when standing right on their feet, which I can't recall if that happens on live at the moment.

Update: The invisibility is broken if you take an ounce of damage, even from Dots, but nobody ever uses those, right?

GreenSoup2HoT · September 2016

It's been two months since the last ZOS reply on this ability.

PS4_ZeColmeia · September 2016

@Alpheu5 so I retested, I can cast but it's very delayed. Also noticed that vamp skills don't seem to consistently keep casting when I switch bars even when the skill is on the same slot on both bars

Cronopoly · September 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

It's been two months since the last ZOS reply on this ability.

It's a magicka ability...that's why it was borked in the first place imo. Not that there's a trend....

Koolio · September 2016

Now that movement speed has been somewhat addressed ( I don't have PTS) can someone give us an update. I refuse to let this go. I paid money for this.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober
Someone? Anyone?

Koolio · September 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just letting you all know that we are aware of this bug, but don't have an exact time frame for an implemented fix. We'll let you know when we have a better idea.

Rohamad_Ali · September 2016

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XgQhMPeEQ

Koolio · September 2016

Dev team be like
Posted from phone

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=7e8PBlvOkuA

PS4_ZeColmeia · September 2016

Please fix