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is justice system going to be improved or not?

kratier
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i just need word from devs if its "working as intended" to be this awful, so i know i can uninstall now
  • Gidorick
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    What do you mean by "awful" ? What's wrong with it?

    I mean, yea. I see problems with it too. I'm just wondering what issues are bad enough to quit the game for you.
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Not.
  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    cya...though probably not.
  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Umm... justice system?
    Enlighten me? O_O
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  • Runs
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    Depends on what you are talking about.

    If you are curious if there will be the ability to attack other players based on the amount of bounty they have, I believe they dropped working on that.


    If it is some other issue, it may help to mention what parts of it you are talking about. Like did you get caught stealing and the npc that saw you beat you to death because you couldn't fight back? That is an issue easily fixed. But we are here left guessing.
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  • dtm_samuraib16_ESO
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    Yes, exactly.
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  • Volkodav
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    kratier wrote: »
    i just need word from devs if its "working as intended" to be this awful, so i know i can uninstall now

    Byes.
    The justice system,though flawed,isnt high up on their list of things to fix.
  • kratier
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    you know when i said, need a comment from a dev, i did not say i need inane comments from non-devs
  • Tandor
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    Well, you knew there was nothing in your question to attract the attention of a developer.

    They have announced their intention not to introduce the PvP element of the Justice System but to keep PvE and PvP separate from now on. If there's anything else you're concerned about you'll need to spell it out, either here or in a bug or feedback report. The developers are no more psychic than the rest of us when it comes to understanding what you mean by "improved" or "awful".
    Edited by Tandor on May 18, 2016 4:11PM
  • Fallen_Ray
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    kratier wrote: »
    you know when i said, need a comment from a dev, i did not say i need inane comments from non-devs

    Yea, well dude... we are trying to help you out. If you want to have a chance to get comment from a dev you need to:

    1: Be more specific with the issues you are having.
    2: Be more amicable.

    And pray heh. You have a greater chance of getting an answer from Mehrunes Dagon or Azura than from a dev.
    Edited by Fallen_Ray on May 18, 2016 4:28PM
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  • ADarklore
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    I'd like them to improve the justice system by giving us a brief time-limit to eliminate any witnesses before the crime can be reported and a bounty added. Why is it that if I don't one-shot an NPC, but kill them on the second strike, I still get a bounty even though they're the only one around who could have reported the crime? Doesn't make sense.
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  • DaveMoeDee
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    What in the justice system do you think isn't working as intended?

    I'm pretty sure that uninstall is the proper answer. I can't say I would be sad to see you go if you rage quit over the justice system.

    The one problem with the justice system is accidentally stealing items that are out in the open. I believe that can be avoided through a game setting to turn off stealing.

    If that isn't what you were referring to, see ya!
  • Vercingetorix
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    Go ahead and uninstall. ZoS has stated that they will NEVER add PvP to existing PvE areas. People were angry about the idea of others ruining their gameplay outside of Cyrodiil, so ZoS is keeping all PvP inside of Cyrodiil, where the war (PvP) is. People supported it, the lore supports it, and I feel that the game is healthier for it. If you are upset that you can't troll others and ruin their game 24/7, then you are not a good fit for this community anyway. Please, uninstall and go away.
    Edited by Vercingetorix on May 18, 2016 6:01PM
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  • Divinius
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    I'm still curious about exactly what the OP thinks is awful...

    Doesn't look like he's going to explain it though.
  • Twilix01
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    kratier wrote: »
    you know when i said, need a comment from a dev, i did not say i need inane comments from non-devs

    What do you expect by posting this in the general discussion forum instead of, oh I don't know, sending a feedback message to ZOS on what you think the justice system needs. Don't expect dev responses about something unless they actually have something to say. Sometimes they might not even be allowed to talk about certain things, because if they say one thing and then it doesn't happen because of technical issues or a change of plans, there will be complete outrage. Remember how upset many people were when PvP justice was canned? They don't want to make another promise they don't know if they can keep.
  • idk
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    kratier wrote: »
    i just need word from devs if its "working as intended" to be this awful, so i know i can uninstall now

    Considering the ZERO information you have provided I'd expect just as much information from Zos.

    Lol, is this post for real?
    Really, idk
  • Elana
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    Personally I would like some kind of safeguard from accidentally tagging innocent NPCs because the one I was aiming at moved just as I hit the key, so that attack on a neutral NPC is clearly an intended action rather than a mistake due to whatever. For example make it so that two consecutive attacks are required to actually initiate the attack rather than one missclick.
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  • Runs
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    Elana wrote: »
    Personally I would like some kind of safeguard from accidentally tagging innocent NPCs because the one I was aiming at moved just as I hit the key, so that attack on a neutral NPC is clearly an intended action rather than a mistake due to whatever. For example make it so that two consecutive attacks are required to actually initiate the attack rather than one missclick.

    Escape, Settings, Gameplay, Prevent Attacking Innocents On

    This will however hurt you if you are caught steeling and the innocent that sees starts to attack you. You will either die, or have to turn it off while being attacked.
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  • BigBragg
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    Writes a vague post in a MMO forum, and doesn't want to talk to anyone.

    3.5/10 Troll, please try again.
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    I really hope the Justice system gets a few tweaks, OP.

    My characters are all virtually demi-Gods. They've picked a fight with (and won) a Daedric Prince in his own realm. Survived being sacrificed and having my soul stolen only to wrestle it free and have it reattached again. Traveled the world and performed feats that Bards sing about.

    But after getting caught stealing a dagger, I get beat down by a single, nameless Town Guard in under ten seconds... the Guards even shrug off the same Spells/Abilities that were used to bring down a God in his own realm, and their health bar barely even moves...

    Something's not right there.

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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Considering the ZERO information you have provided I'd expect just as much information from Zos.

    Lol, is this post for real?

    Troll OP is Troll ...
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Elana wrote: »
    Personally I would like some kind of safeguard from accidentally tagging innocent NPCs because the one I was aiming at moved just as I hit the key, so that attack on a neutral NPC is clearly an intended action rather than a mistake due to whatever. For example make it so that two consecutive attacks are required to actually initiate the attack rather than one missclick.

    There is a toggle in the
    settings ---> gameplay
    where you can turn on/off "prevent attacking innocents" for all NPCs.

    If you're aiming for a certain NPC, be sure to use the tab target ... if the intent is to focus on one NPC in a group ...


    Edited by Taleof2Cities on May 18, 2016 7:12PM
    "May you walk on warm sands."
    "First, I would ask that you look to the poor and the suffering around Cyrodiil. Look into their hearts, and then look into your own."
    "May Auri-El's light guide you in your darkest hours."

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  • Elana
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    Runs wrote: »
    Elana wrote: »
    Personally I would like some kind of safeguard from accidentally tagging innocent NPCs because the one I was aiming at moved just as I hit the key, so that attack on a neutral NPC is clearly an intended action rather than a mistake due to whatever. For example make it so that two consecutive attacks are required to actually initiate the attack rather than one missclick.

    Escape, Settings, Gameplay, Prevent Attacking Innocents On

    This will however hurt you if you are caught steeling and the innocent that sees starts to attack you. You will either die, or have to turn it off while being attacked.
    Elana wrote: »
    Personally I would like some kind of safeguard from accidentally tagging innocent NPCs because the one I was aiming at moved just as I hit the key, so that attack on a neutral NPC is clearly an intended action rather than a mistake due to whatever. For example make it so that two consecutive attacks are required to actually initiate the attack rather than one missclick.

    There is a toggle in the
    settings ---> gameplay
    where you can turn on/off "prevent attacking innocents" for all NPCs.

    If you're aiming for a certain NPC, be sure to use the tab target ... if the intent is to focus on one NPC in a group ...

    Thank you, I was not aware of that. Much appreciated :)
    Edited by Elana on May 18, 2016 7:26PM
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  • bedlom
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    Seems fine to me.
  • FerrumnCutem
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    My only prob is that when you enter stealth to get away with the escape droughts, guards immediatly one hit you with their flare. So they are bassicaly useless.
  • rotaugen454
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    Somehow I think this thread did not go the way that the OP intended...
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  • emily3989
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    kratier wrote: »
    you know when i said, need a comment from a dev, i did not say i need inane comments from non-devs

    You never said what you needed fixed in the first place, you think a dev is going to come on here and beg you to tell them what you think is wrong???

    My god, just uninstall already, please.
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