Dragon priest and Dovakhiin costumes - only for male characters?

LadyNalcarya

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Yes!! These new motifs are really causing problems. They make my character lose battles in PvP, get stuck on rocks, and loudly sing Neil Diamond songs. They also cause my auto-immune disease to flare up and my eyelids to swell. And don't get me started on the incessant flatulence.

Seriously, fix this ****! I have a figure competition in Valenwood next week and I need to look my best!

And again "Im so much better cuz I dont care" comment. XD

Gidorick

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

As the title says, basically.
I checked new costumes on my char, and they dont have female meshes.
And attaching male models to female chars causes some... deformities:

Dragon priest costume looks just horrible, it gives balloon-like body on super skinny legs. It might be not that noticeable on screenshots due to all these spikes and other details, but its very noticeable in game.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , is it possible to release these costumes in female versions as well?

Geeze... ZOS needs to get these things EXACTLY right for some of you guys to be happy eh? It can't show too much but should be cute and sexy. It can't be too fitting but should follow the contours of the character exactly. Sure, some of the costumes and armors are CLEARLY broken, but at some point we're getting into nitpicking territory.

The middle one doesn't look that bad. Considering the armor isn't made to contour the body like a glove and serves to protect the player with padding and whatnot... It think it looks reasonable enough.

And the thin legs... we would need to see the characters legs in the left image to make a proper comparison.

strikeback1247

Well... It's dragon priest not dragon priestess :^)

Osteos

@KoshkaMurka Thank you for posting these. I will not be buying them now.

FerrumnCutem

I get that some costumes aren't unisex, like the dresses and graht wear, so I understand that they would make some male onlg costumes aswell after making at about 4000 female costumes.
But I agree that the new normal style motifs like the faction ones and trin look real weird on fem chars. I never play a fem char and I never will, since it just feels strange IMO, but it does bother me that more and more armors are starting to look shapeless and very male on fem characters, as if they pack some giant ass exo skeleton underneath there chest armor.

Tryxus

I bought both the costumes, and I like them both too.

Dragon Priest:

There's nothing wrong with the legs: judging from the legs in the Dragon Warrior SS, they are fine. The bandages are just tightly wrapped around the legs.

Another point brought up was that it's hard to determine the wearer's gender. Again, pretty normal for metal armor that covers the entire body

Dragon Warrior:

Well... I get that the upper part is Studded Leather and that it's not supposed to conform to the body... but still....

It does seem to get the bust size right (am I allowed to say smth like that?)

Still, I guess not everyone will be pleased. Incoming Chandler Bing here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X6CTx8DA5c

Mojmir

I don't think nords we're going for style with that armor.

kampori

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

Yes!! These new motifs are really causing problems. They make my character lose battles in PvP, get stuck on rocks, and loudly sing Neil Diamond songs. They also cause my auto-immune disease to flare up and my eyelids to swell. And don't get me started on the incessant flatulence.

Seriously, fix this ****! I have a figure competition in Valenwood next week and I need to look my best!

Get over yourself.

Firstly, people who design/fix aesthetics like armours are NOT the same people who fix gameplay issues and lag etc. Completely different departments, with different teams, different skills, different budgets and different agendas.

Secondly, people play games (and especially a heavily RPG- and RP- based game like this one) for different reasons. You'd be surprised at how many people care more about RP stuff like this (or just people who want to look good) than gameplay issues. Especially if you don't pvp, or do trials, where most if not all of the major issues lie.

So yes, please do keep working on things like this

Abeille

Tryxus wrote: »

I bought both the costumes, and I like them both too.

Dragon Priest:

There's nothing wrong with the legs: judging from the legs in the Dragon Warrior SS, they are fine. The bandages are just tightly wrapped around the legs. Shoulders are okay too: I think the char in the picture was walking around since the arms were swinging a bit. Which would explain how it looks a bit deformed in the picture

If you are talking about my picture, no, she was completely still. Her arms were not swinging a bit, it is because the camera isn't directly in front of her (because you can really see that gap when it is slightly on the side). I just took the pic in the world instead of in the Crown Store preview. Wasn't using any personalities, riding any mounts, using any emotes or anything like that.

Also, I believe the "thin legs" are because the wraps are painted on, like it is on many armor styles, but it just looks more obvious because we have all those 3d scales around the parts that are painted on.

Tryxus

Abeille wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

I bought both the costumes, and I like them both too.

Dragon Priest:

There's nothing wrong with the legs: judging from the legs in the Dragon Warrior SS, they are fine. The bandages are just tightly wrapped around the legs. Shoulders are okay too: I think the char in the picture was walking around since the arms were swinging a bit. Which would explain how it looks a bit deformed in the picture

If you are talking about my picture, no, she was completely still. Her arms were not swinging a bit, it is because the camera isn't directly in front of her (because you can really see that gap when it is slightly on the side). I just took the pic in the world instead of in the Crown Store preview. Wasn't using any personalities, riding any mounts, using any emotes or anything like that.

Also, I believe the "thin legs" are because the wraps are painted on, like it is on many armor styles, but it just looks more obvious because we have all those 3d scales around the parts that are painted on.

My mistake then. To me it did look like your char on the SS was walking, but it might be just the camera angle. The right arm seems to be swinging forward and the left one back

LadyNalcarya

Abeille wrote: »

Also, I believe the "thin legs" are because the wraps are painted on, like it is on many armor styles, but it just looks more obvious because we have all those 3d scales around the parts that are painted on.

Actually no, it changes proportions of hips and legs, in the same way corseted riding outfit does. Results may vary depending on the character - thin and tall chars are much less deformed.

Its hard to show on screenshots since there's a lot of details. But if you rotate character model in preview mode, you'll see.

Abeille

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Also, I believe the "thin legs" are because the wraps are painted on, like it is on many armor styles, but it just looks more obvious because we have all those 3d scales around the parts that are painted on.

Actually no, it changes proportions of hips and legs, in the same way corseted riding outfit does. Results may vary depending on the character - thin and tall chars are much less deformed.

Its hard to show on screenshots since there's a lot of details. But if you rotate character model in preview mode, you'll see.

Thanks, it is much easier to see with this comparison. You are absolutely right.

LadyNalcarya

Gidorick wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

As the title says, basically.
I checked new costumes on my char, and they dont have female meshes.
And attaching male models to female chars causes some... deformities:

Dragon priest costume looks just horrible, it gives balloon-like body on super skinny legs. It might be not that noticeable on screenshots due to all these spikes and other details, but its very noticeable in game.

@ZOS_GinaBruno , is it possible to release these costumes in female versions as well?

Geeze... ZOS needs to get these things EXACTLY right for some of you guys to be happy eh? It can't show too much but should be cute and sexy. It can't be too fitting but should follow the contours of the character exactly. Sure, some of the costumes and armors are CLEARLY broken, but at some point we're getting into nitpicking territory.

The middle one doesn't look that bad. Considering the armor isn't made to contour the body like a glove and serves to protect the player with padding and whatnot... It think it looks reasonable enough.

And the thin legs... we would need to see the characters legs in the left image to make a proper comparison.

This is a part of much bigger problem described in this thread.
And its kinda disappointing to see this when Zos employees said that its a bug and not intended, and after they released a couple of costumes without those issues.

Icy

Danikat wrote: »

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but I thought they said the lack of female meshes on newer costumes and armour sets was a mistake and was going to be fixed.

I guess that's not happening now?

I've taken a look at some of the new dropped Armour sets in Dark Brotherhood and they look fine for female meshes. I'm guessing that the Dragon/Nord costumes were already developed before they've fixed the problem.

See about 5:45 in (don't have screenshots atm)

https://youtu.be/AyuCEdGsHrc?t=345

notimetocare

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I don't understand why ZOS keeps making this same mistake with one new motif after another.

Please fix this for ALL the affected styles! @ZOS_JessicaFolsom could you please pass this along to the relevant devs?

Because it is likely a skeleton issue, not each motif

idk

Zos has always had a quality problem. Beautiful worlds they create and they out attention into small details but miss the broad side of the barn with most everything else.

In reality, it all comes down to Firor. He is top dog and approves all this directly or by proxy.

GeertKarel

Good job, I think because it was only 1k crowns they didn't put enought time and effort in to testing these things.

KramUzibra

Yes please design more flattering costumes for female characters or at the very least incorporate balance by having both conservative costumes and flattering ones this would allow choice and expression. Not all females or males want to look like Eskimos

bloodenragedb14_ESO

i would have bought the dragon priest, but no robe bottom? yeah, no crown for you

Edit: All my characters are guy's, and mages by design, and i dont like them wearing pants, it looks unnatrual on a mage to be wearing pants, its robes or nothing.