Can't talk in zone chat when dead in Cyrodiil

Voxicity

Yet another one of those annoying wtf features of the game.

A bunch of yellows kill you and you see them heading to BRK and want to notify your alliance. But you have to spawn first in order to speak in zone chat, by which point after the 4 minute load screen (the reason I'm bored and making this thread) they've already been and wiped them.

Why is this a thing? I'd understand if you could actually spawn instantly but with the current state of the game I'm thinking they should just allow you to speak in zone chat while dead.

(load screen currently 8 minutes and counting)

#imnotmadaboutdyingimmadaboutthe10minuteloadscreen

inb4:

don't die
get gud

Katahdin

I agree it's stupid

Mojmir

i think this prevents ghost scouting, which is absurd,you can scout in stealth from anywhere.

Osteos

Mojmir wrote: »

i think this prevents ghost scouting, which is absurd,you can scout in stealth from anywhere.

You can still whisper and text in group though.

FrostFallFox

Dead men tell no tales.

IcyDeadPeople

If you are attacking a keep defended by only a couple people, this feature buys you a little time as that person has to respawn.

Also, imagine the alternative: zone chat would be constantly spammed with "I'm lying here dead on Alessia Bridge, can somebody come rez me?" etc

Voxicity

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Dead men tell no tales.

I seriously considered it might be a logic / lore thing but then I remembered there's ghosts and skeletons walking around speaking so I'm really at a loss for words (pun intended)

driosketch

Mojmir wrote: »

i think this prevents ghost scouting, which is absurd,you can scout in stealth from anywhere.

Not quite as well when you are already dead. A ghost scout could report from underneath a keep npc.

Personally, I've always liked it as a mild form of death penalty. As mentioned above, you can still whisper or group chat. Have that person relay details, though I don't see it used as much as it should be.

Saltypretzels

Vox wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Dead men tell no tales.

I seriously considered it might be a logic / lore thing but then I remembered there's ghosts and skeletons walking around speaking so I'm really at a loss for words (pun intended)

I really think it was a conscious decision based on this age old saying.

magnusthorek

I agree, it's very stupid. A dead body can't talk, but a dead body can hear whispers from the enemy, most of the times with mockery and/or insults.

Rawst

magnusthorek wrote: »

I agree, it's very stupid. A dead body can't talk, but a dead body can hear whispers from the enemy, most of the times with mockery and/or insults.

how do you whisper to an enemy player?

GeorgeBlack

If a scout dies he cannot report. I like it. Group/whispers should be enough. Do u rly wanna tell people that they are heading to brk? Resurrect at any cost and shout

IcyDeadPeople

Rawst wrote: »

magnusthorek wrote: »

I agree, it's very stupid. A dead body can't talk, but a dead body can hear whispers from the enemy, most of the times with mockery and/or insults.

how do you whisper to an enemy player?

type /w then character name, and add comma at end

susmitds

It is intentional. Otherwise every alliance would know exactly what the others are upto.

NBrookus

nvm...

Taleof2Cities

But yet you can still talk in group chat with guildies ...

I don't get it either, OP ...

SlayerTheDragon

If you died, you need to stop talking for a bit and listen....

makreth

FrostFallFox wrote: »

Dead men tell no tales.

It's more like heavy injury close to death. Player is unconscious or even in comma, he can't talk or interact with anything. When player respawns the heavy loading comes into play. Thus, the player has to endure some time to recover from his injuries and then start talking. It's all about realism and immersion !

Duiwel

Plz res would consume the zone chat OP...

You underestimate the power of the Other side

Beardimus

Surely if you are dead you shouldn't be able to talk to your team...you're dead..

Voxicity

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

If a scout dies he cannot report. I like it. Group/whispers should be enough. Do u rly wanna tell people that they are heading to brk? Resurrect at any cost and shout

Read the thread properly first. I am mostly talking about the problems with resurrection time.

SahrotRein

Clearly a l2p issue.

/sarcasmoff

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

The logic behind this:
Dead folks usually do not chat when very busy being very dead...

freespirit

Mmmm..........

*Decides from now on to talk in eerie ghostly way when communicating by voice whilst dead!!

Something that seems to happen a lot(the dead bit that is)

Robbmrp

Vox wrote: »

Yet another one of those annoying wtf features of the game.

A bunch of yellows kill you and you see them heading to BRK and want to notify your alliance. But you have to spawn first in order to speak in zone chat, by which point after the 4 minute load screen (the reason I'm bored and making this thread) they've already been and wiped them.

Why is this a thing? I'd understand if you could actually spawn instantly but with the current state of the game I'm thinking they should just allow you to speak in zone chat while dead.

(load screen currently 8 minutes and counting)

#imnotmadaboutdyingimmadaboutthe10minuteloadscreen

inb4:

don't die
get gud

I can understand why this isn't allowed in the game but it doesn't prevent you from talking within group chat. Be sure your grouped with at least one person, that way you can get the word out.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

freespirit wrote: »

Mmmm..........

*Decides from now on to talk in eerie ghostly way when communicating by voice whilst dead!!

Something that seems to happen a lot(the dead bit that is)

Heheheh, yeah, i got that as well.

AlnilamE

Yeah. It's silly considering you can talk in group and guild. It should be consistent one way or the other.

Has anyone ever tried talking in zone while dead outside of Cyrodiil?

driosketch

AlnilamE wrote: »

Has anyone ever tried talking in zone while dead outside of Cyrodiil?

Huh, I haven't but I don't really see why I would need to. For one, I can usually revive myself right away on the spot. In situations were I can't, I'm usually grouped with people anyways.

That's probably why group chat and the like still work while dead, to help coordination during dungeon runs, or so socialization isn't interrupted. So the direct communication options remain active during death while area communications go down.

GeertKarel

well it might have some reasons

first of all if you die you most likely have the urge to say something that can be wrong
and it avoids you sitting dead and just chit chatting to everyone in the zone while doing nothing but laying dead.

maybe downside is your keep is getting attacked and you want to say what is happening but first you have to ressurect and you cannot check the walls % or w/e