When are we getting race changes?

LazyLewis

People make characters for specific builds. Now passives and skills have changed dramatically since the start of the game people have characters they can't play because they can't reach their max potential with their current race. I will happily pay for crowns for race changes

emily3989

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

Minno

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

Zheg

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

OdinForge

If ZOS didn't change the game every patch, I'd vote against racial changes. But since ZOS cannot stop turning the game on itself every 6 months, I guess it's only fair. You think you have a good race for the job one patch, then the next patch you feel like you need to change to keep up with the game.

I was in the same boat with my Dunmer stamina NB at launch, before they removed softcaps it worked great (capped stamina and almost magicka). And since I didn't have the explorer pack I had no better racial choice in Ebonheart.

By the time 1.7 came around, playing as a Dunmer stamina NB was just so bad. I had to buy the explorer pack and essentially remake my finished character from scratch as a Redguard. I'd much rather have kept my original character that I worked hard on, and just changed his race to compensate for ZOS' pitiful faction / race - launch, and their constantly changing the game.

Minno

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

Never said you should be stuck in a race if you want to min-max. You shouldn't, as a min-maxer, degrade people or lock them out of content, because they picked a non-optimal race.

hammayolettuce

Not even in a PvP end game standpoint, racial passives take a large role in endgame PvE. There is a significant difference between a Dark Elf and Khajiit mDK dps when competing in end game content. No reason a player should be punished for wanting to stay competitive but keep their achievements they have unlocked on that character.

Race change should have came with this update, seeing as name change is coming in the CS.

frozywozy

I made a nord because it looks cool. I don't care about the passives. NORD MASTER RACE!

Minno

frozywozy wrote: »

I made a nord because it looks cool. I don't care about the passives. NORD MASTER RACE!

You must like hair, everywhere.
Also a tall mug of fermented honey after a hard day of pillaging.

Those are the "real" racial passives for Nord.

frozywozy

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I made a nord because it looks cool. I don't care about the passives. NORD MASTER RACE!

You must like hair, everywhere.
Also a tall mug of fermented honey after a hard day of pillaging.

Those are the "real" racial passives for Nord.

I also like strong women *winks at Xylena*

Minno

frozywozy wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I made a nord because it looks cool. I don't care about the passives. NORD MASTER RACE!

You must like hair, everywhere.
Also a tall mug of fermented honey after a hard day of pillaging.

Those are the "real" racial passives for Nord.

I also like strong women *winks at Xylena*

You must be strong to be Nord. Gender is not a Nord concept, except in situations where a Nord must pillage the enemy. If you weak, you are a child and not a Nord.

Jules

Race change has already been confirmed so fighting it is futile.
It needs to happen sooner than later. Give it a 1 month cool down or whatever you need to do, just make it happen ZOS.

Muizer

I'm looking forward to the day when we get to choose as our title "Former Khajiit".

OdinForge

Muizer wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the day when we get to choose as our title "Former Khajiit".

JDar

Once you go khajiit you never go back

Zheg

JDar wrote: »

Once you go khajiit you never go back

Unless you were smart enough to make it your crafter. I log onto mine daily, gotta check those hirelings to see if you got more almandine xD

Ghost-Shot

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

We don't all play casually, some of us are in hardcore PVE raiding and PVP guilds where you are expected, if not required, to min/max a character to achieve it's highest potential. Because of this we chose specific races when creating a character that will benefit the role we intend that character to fill, when major ability changes happen it often results in a different race being most optimal and all the effort you put into that character is now a waste as it will be out performed by other races in the same spec. I would much rather be able to change my race than have to start over on a character with another race and give up all my achievements and alliance ranks that had been previously earned.

Xsorus

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

heheh could be worse

You could of been an Argonian Nightblade built specifically for potions ;o)

Ghost-Shot

Xsorus wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

heheh could be worse

You could of been an Argonian Nightblade built specifically for potions ;o)

RIP

Xsorus

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

heheh could be worse

You could of been an Argonian Nightblade built specifically for potions ;o)

RIP

I know man (

brobiwan

It's 2016, I thought race didn't matter.

LazyLewis

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

THE DEFINITION OF TRIALS. It's all about PvP

HoloYoitsu

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

emily3989 wrote: »

Hopefully never.'

And I don't see how you can't play a certain character just because of a race. If you getting benched on trials runs because of your character's race, I would suggest a different guild?

I'd second this.
People can be jerks but I wouldn't accept it. If you are benched, there are a few casual raiding guilds that wont bench based on race.

Though you still should hit any gear benchmarks they require; suit up!

So my khajiit sorc who used to be my main back when they had a +10 (or 15, it's been a while) critical DAMAGE multiplier should continue playing as a magicka role when sorcs heavily rely on + magicka passives? That wasn't the meta changing on me because a new set came out, that was ZOS completely changing what used to be the best mage racial into something that only impacts melee crit chance. Let's also not forget how many made race decisions based on soft caps as a mechanic. Months later, ZOS changes khajiit racial and removes softcaps. It's a completely different situation than the flavor of the month bandwagon hopping people frequently cite as a concern.

Good thing you are already part of a casual pvp raiding guild.