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Please don't let trial leaderboards drop nirn items
RAGUNAnoOne
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This is the only item that requires you to actually socialize and trade to get what you need. adding this to trial gear defeats the main purpose of the trait you only get one per character and you must bargain or find a crafter to get max traits.
Edited by RAGUNAnoOne on April 27, 2016 1:41PM PS4 NA
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swirve✭✭✭✭I just bought all my nirn pieces from guild trader for research..zero socialising required.
I could have gotten pieces from crafters in guild but given the price you can buy from GT it is no issue really.6 -
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✭You have to socialize to do a trial. Usually...GG
Edit: This gives an opportunity for those who run trials to also trade their nirncrux.Edited by Cuyler on April 27, 2016 1:56PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Devilhand✭✭✭hmm... Sorry man, but i think your pretty much saying "my bussiness will get screwed".
Farming for ninhoned traits is a pain, and the reason of that its beacuse it only drop (well, have a CHANCE to drop) from resources nodes in upper caglorn.
So yea, farmers make a LOT of gold out of it.
They should add another way to get this trait items, farming 1 hour/1 ninhorn its rough.3 -
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✭✭✭What's the big deal? Compared to Sharpened or Precise on the PTS, Nirn isn't even THAT good anymore.Edited by Valrien on April 27, 2016 1:59PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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KaleidoscopeEyz✭✭✭✭Buying from a guild trader isn't socialization. Let me guess. You do a lot of nirn business and make bank.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't agree with this OP
8/9 traits just drop and this last one only comes from a specific zone that for consoles is 100% from day one, below max level and has had no updates to change that.
So for nirn to be locked there and now come from leaderboard, yes
To be honest tho, nirn based on what's on PTS could either:
Be removed as 9th trait entirely and allow 8 be the max
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Just let it drop from something more than what the changes offer
The style material itself should come from any node world wide (Tamriel) and refining just like the other 8Edited by NewBlacksmurf on April 27, 2016 2:54PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭Please don't drop nirn from the trial leaderboards. It's now a trash trait on the PTS, and I don't want my loot table to be diluted any more.
I had already researched every nirn trait a while ago, so IDGAF about the other thing.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Acharnor✭✭✭✭Nope - this is great. Should not be so hard or expensive to research that elusive 9th trait.Celebrate for life is short but sweet for certain.3 -
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✭KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Buying from a guild trader isn't socialization. Let me guess. You do a lot of nirn business and make bank.
Wrong! I have yet to sell anything in a guild trader besides 2 tempering alloys and I am below average wealthPS4 NA
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DschiPeunt✭✭✭✭It is the right thing to do. The fact that there are 9 traits, of which 8 are totally common and 1 is super-rare never made any sense. This is a good step towards getting nirnhoned in line with the other traits.Server: EU AD || Guilds: EquinoX
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✭✭✭✭✭Question tho.
Is it the leaderboard thing .....so if these dropped just like the other 8, would that be bad in your opinion?
And why?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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swirve✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »Buying from a guild trader isn't socialization. Let me guess. You do a lot of nirn business and make bank.
Wrong! I have yet to sell anything in a guild trader besides 2 tempering alloys and I am below average in wit, wisedom and wisecracks
Fixed it 4u.
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✭✭✭I say anything to make Nirnhoned items more common is a good thing.
People will straight up rob you when it comes to the pricing on Nirnhoned and Nirncrux, so much so that it's barely worth the hassle seeing as TBS and Armor Master are the only 9 trait craftable sets that are worth a damn and with the changes to Nirnhoned on PTS making it almost laughable to use, I see no reason to exclude it from trial rewards if for no other reason as something to trade/research it.
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✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »This is the only item that requires you to actually socialize and trade to get what you need. adding this to trial gear defeats the main purpose of the trait you only get one per character and you must bargain or find a crafter to get max traits.
If by "socialize and trade" you mean get your wallet jacked for 20K gold, then yeah, you could call it that.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
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✭✭Considering Sharpened is far better in most situations and precise is marginally better, the PVE market for Nirn weapons will be significantly reduced in 2.4. There will be those that want it because it is more effective against shields in PVP, but after this patch nirn weapons will take a significant hit in value unless the spell damage value in 2.4 is increased.Playing since beta...0 -
Kwivur✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »This is the only item that requires you to actually socialize and trade to get what you need. adding this to trial gear defeats the main purpose of the trait you only get one per character and you must bargain or find a crafter to get max traits.
Why are you worried about nirn? They're somewhat useless in DB.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »This is the only item that requires you to actually socialize and trade to get what you need. adding this to trial gear defeats the main purpose of the trait you only get one per character and you must bargain or find a crafter to get max traits.
If by "socialize and trade" you mean get your wallet jacked for 20K gold, then yeah, you could call it that.
So go farm it yourself instead of buying it. I haven't paid for any nirn or nirn pieces for research, and have crafted research pieces for free in turn for people who have the nirn.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭hmm... Sorry man, but i think your pretty much saying "my bussiness will get screwed".
Farming for ninhoned traits is a pain, and the reason of that its beacuse it only drop (well, have a CHANCE to drop) from resources nodes in upper caglorn.
So yea, farmers make a LOT of gold out of it.
They should add another way to get this trait items, farming 1 hour/1 ninhorn its rough.
Agree. Always thought it was narrow minded Zos made this trait material so challenging to get vs the rest.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »hmm... Sorry man, but i think your pretty much saying "my bussiness will get screwed".
Farming for ninhoned traits is a pain, and the reason of that its beacuse it only drop (well, have a CHANCE to drop) from resources nodes in upper caglorn.
So yea, farmers make a LOT of gold out of it.
They should add another way to get this trait items, farming 1 hour/1 ninhorn its rough.
Agree. Always thought it was narrow minded Zos made this trait material so challenging to get vs the rest.
So what? It's much harder to get Trinimac motifs than it is to get a Breton motif.
Why must everything be equally available? Nirncrux is supposed to be rare, and I'm fine with that. It's an extra challenge for your research collection. There's no reason why everything in the game should be the same (mind-numbingly easy) difficulty.
I liked the way it is. Was it difficult to get? Sure. But it felt special. And rewarding.
And, as I noted, I don't want nirn in the leaderboard drops. The loot tables are already too diluted with crap items, and with the heavy nerf to nirn, having them in the leaderboard loot table just means even more dilution. No thank you.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »hmm... Sorry man, but i think your pretty much saying "my bussiness will get screwed".
Farming for ninhoned traits is a pain, and the reason of that its beacuse it only drop (well, have a CHANCE to drop) from resources nodes in upper caglorn.
So yea, farmers make a LOT of gold out of it.
They should add another way to get this trait items, farming 1 hour/1 ninhorn its rough.
Agree. Always thought it was narrow minded Zos made this trait material so challenging to get vs the rest.
So what? It's much harder to get Trinimac motifs than it is to get a Breton motif.
Why must everything be equally available? Nirncrux is supposed to be rare, and I'm fine with that. It's an extra challenge for your research collection. There's no reason why everything in the game should be the same (mind-numbingly easy) difficulty.
I liked the way it is. Was it difficult to get? Sure. But it felt special. And rewarding.
And, as I noted, I don't want nirn in the leaderboard drops. The loot tables are already too diluted with crap items, and with the heavy nerf to nirn, having them in the leaderboard loot table just means even more dilution. No thank you.
Comparing a trait stone to something that is merely appearance is illogical. It is apples and oranges. More like applies and rocks.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »hmm... Sorry man, but i think your pretty much saying "my bussiness will get screwed".
Farming for ninhoned traits is a pain, and the reason of that its beacuse it only drop (well, have a CHANCE to drop) from resources nodes in upper caglorn.
So yea, farmers make a LOT of gold out of it.
They should add another way to get this trait items, farming 1 hour/1 ninhorn its rough.
Agree. Always thought it was narrow minded Zos made this trait material so challenging to get vs the rest.
So what? It's much harder to get Trinimac motifs than it is to get a Breton motif.
Why must everything be equally available? Nirncrux is supposed to be rare, and I'm fine with that. It's an extra challenge for your research collection. There's no reason why everything in the game should be the same (mind-numbingly easy) difficulty.
I liked the way it is. Was it difficult to get? Sure. But it felt special. And rewarding.
And, as I noted, I don't want nirn in the leaderboard drops. The loot tables are already too diluted with crap items, and with the heavy nerf to nirn, having them in the leaderboard loot table just means even more dilution. No thank you.
Comparing a trait stone to something that is merely appearance is illogical. It is apples and oranges. More like applies and rocks.
My point still stands: some things in this game are more challenging than others. And there's no inherent problem with that. A homogenized game would be dull and boring. Stop asking for everything to be handed out.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
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My point still stands: some things in this game are more challenging than others. And there's no inherent problem with that. A homogenized game would be dull and boring. Stop asking for everything to be handed out.
^This.^
Nirnhoned might not always be the best trait for certain sutuations. But, it's nice to at least be able to have the option to craft it.
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