「Rant」Regarding the Lag in ESO 「ETA for this to be fixed?」

MaxwellC

Yup as the title said this is a rant regarding the on-going lag. Everyone who plays a lot of PvP including myself already knows how annoying lag gets especially around 'prime time' as that's where the limits are pushed to the extreme that you see failed abilities, movement interruptions, failed weapon swamps, etc.

This rant is regarding the lag in PvE. I mean it's beyond ridiculous with how horrible it is, I can't play trials, group dungeons, or even vMSA without dying so much (team-mates included) that it just pisses you off.

Example #1. Two days ago (during the ICP pledge) someone wanted a PuG for Hel ra Citadel (One of the easiest if not thee easiest trial in the game as of now). People were getting wiped but not because they were bad but because you'd hear the healer saying "OMFG I'm trying to spam heals but my character won't do it!" or the tank saying "I can't switch to my SnB to re-taunt wtf is going on" even the DPS saying "WTF I can't use my skills fast enough because my character is moving so slow". I mean that's pretty much what occurred, you can't tell me "oh this is a normal thing"; it's absolute absurd how horrible this lag is. People experiencing adds teleporting as if they were all Nightblades being able to teleport strike without having a target.

Example #2. During the WGT pledge (Yesterday) we're on kena, we have a solid team pretty much burned planar down within 5mins (still lagging a bit but could manage) but all that changes when we get to kena. We get to kena's wall of lighting and the lag we felt during inhibitor suddenly decided to increase even more to the point that I felt like I was in PvP 'Prime time'. I moved so slow that I was eaten by the lighting wall, healer can't spam heals or switch bars fast enough for other skills, tank trying to run while kenas on him but can't since kena gained a new teleport skill that wrecks him, and other DPS tries to avoid the lighting like me but gets eaten up by it too. This shouldn't be a normal thing but it sure feels that way.

Example #3: Today! I was doing vMSA and I was clearing it like a boss (on my stamina DK) No deaths stage 4 but it's not like I wasn't lagging all the way to stage 4; every single stage except stage 1, I had to use my corrosive armor (My OMG PANIC MODE Initiated ultimate).

Stage 4 I received my first death thanks to the last boss somehow killing me because I supposedly didn't sprint enough and didn't account for a flame to magically appear in front of me with no red AoE sign (GG LAG).

We go onto the 5th stage where the last boss somehow stuns me and I can't break free while 2 ads slam me down (GG LAG).

6th Stage the boss summons that big red golem thing (forgot it's name so let's go with red golem thingy), it's somehow able to stun me from 10 feet away then follow up with a combo hit before I could even regain control.

7th stage I spent most of my deaths here where I'd lag so badly that I couldn't get away from the insta kill plant that ends me everytime, or the boss that just gets his stun DoT combo where I can't break free (GG LAG) or somehow when I'm running out of the plants range my character suddenly decides to take a breather and run slower (GG LAG).

8th stage wasn't as bad I died twice to not being able to avoid the lasts boss fire wave since my character was moving slow and trying to dodge but it wouldn't dodge until a second later (GG LAG).

9th stage.. oh boy I didn't die till the ash titan who decided that when he uses his flame wall I shall also move slow and be un-able to avoid it while he summons ads that I can't attack since my attacks are missing thanks to being slightly out of range or getting stunned randomly which results me spamming LT/RT to break free to no avail (literally had to use a defence bonus to clear it). Last boss died multiple times thanks to somehow dodge on the top of the map (when he flys upward) but somehow getting slammed down with no ultimates ready which leaves me to be devoured by the daedroth. There was this one time where I tried to move out of the lich crystals way but couldn't for some odd reason, even after I dodge rolled it I was killed (GG LAG).

I literally died 23 times thanks to lag; I feel the best part was me trying to use vigor or rally and when I clicked it I would receive NO HEALS but the cost would be consumed, LOL isn't that fantastic how that could happen. I should add that it was happening through-out the whole vMSA and I was just infuriated by the end of it; just imagine you're like "Oh my health is low well I didn't use rally for a while so that should top me off" but when you click it, you receive nothing and die.

All in all PvE wasn't bad prior to Thieves guild, I've made many forums regarding how annoying the lag is but man this is pathetic. I sub to a game where the LAG is just as horrible as the bounce and today that sub has ended.

Edit: My score after it was over was 327k with 2hours 7mins wasted for a para bellum necklace (GG LAG n F u RNGesus)
-RANT ended.

susmitds

IMO Lag is random tbh. It is usually not there, but when it is, there is nothing much to do.

Judas Helviaryn

susmitds wrote: »

IMO Lag is random tbh. It is usually not there, but when it is, there is nothing much to do.

The lag is always there, and its distinguishably worse during peak time, on the consoles as well as PC. It's a huge turn-off for the game.

Syrani

I have had a lot of lag issues in PVE since TG came out. Game freezes, abilities won't fire, enemies warping all over the room, etc. I had to stop healing trials because it was a slide show in there. I even went out and spent $2k on a custom built system, and that didn't help one bit. I had lag before TG, but nothing like this. It is getting aggravating to say the least.

RAGUNAnoOne

this is why I don't want dark brotherhood to come out as fast as it is planned EVERY DLC they have released has exponentially increased lag! @ZOS_GinaBruno I think you guys would actually make more money in the long run if you delay the DB for stability improvements beforehand rather than releasing something within your fake deadline that breaks the base game so bad players leave.

Foreverxghosty

Honestly it's different on Xbox One, if any you guys play other platforms then it wouldn't be toward you guys I am not going to lie since the thieves guild patch and the last patch that was released on tuesday for Xbox One. ESo has been suffering massive frame rate issues and lag in many stages of maelstrom so bad I am telling you it is unplayable.

minsue

weird other then some lag in cyrodil i haven't experienced this other then my internet acts up i has *** internet though i have heard this is a big problem x.x bit dishearting

Wolfpaw

New player here, lvl20 something, and ya the lag is pretty bad.

I came from GW2, and comparing city hubs and pve zone from GW2 to ESO is like night and day. ESO really needs to fix this.

calmchambrwb17_ESO

for me IC dlc = pvp lag,
Orsinium = continual kicks in IC during weekends and holidays and kicks from Wrothgar boss fights during peak hours,
Thieves Guild = IC virtually unplayable, Wrothgar has lag even on quiet farming runs. Random kicks now happening in PVE, Undaunted has kick location spots in almost every dungeon. Won't bother doing vMsa or Trials when lag beats you every time, everywhere.
Dark Brotherhood will probably break my game totally

MaxwellC

Don't even get me started with random kicks @calmchambrwb17_ESO I literally can't do writs unless I speed run it like a champ in wrothgar. If I take too long I'll be kicked back to the XB1 dashboard or I'll see gigantic amounts of white light/pink textures all over.

The state of the game is dire and needs to be addressed with a Emergency live stream stating the issues and not dodging them while telling everyone the steps they're doing to fix these issues instead of the same "We're fixing it".

x_Nathan_F

Was trying to do a dungeon earlier and my character was lagging switching bars was a pain applying wards was a pain even moving was a pain

HoloYoitsu

Oh boy, you think the PvE lag is bad.....







.....Cyrodiil........

TARAFRAKA

Foreverxghosty wrote: »

Honestly it's different on Xbox One, if any you guys play other platforms then it wouldn't be toward you guys I am not going to lie since the thieves guild patch and the last patch that was released on tuesday for Xbox One. ESo has been suffering massive frame rate issues and lag in many stages of maelstrom so bad I am telling you it is unplayable.

I Ghosty. Glad you came back. Yes I was in VMA on my magblade this weekend multiple times and couldn't clear 2nd stage due to the lag.
EDIT: my grammar is atrocious

MaxwellC

@HoloYoitsu

My rant clearly addresses cyrodiil lag though >.<

Mojmir

places i lag:
cyrodiil
pledge dungeons
VMA
wrothgar

kane1989

I understand this thread is more based towards PVE and i feel the pain. But im begging to wonder why I've wasted so many hours getting all my characters to the best they can possibly be gear , passives and all the other rubbish to be competive in PVP. And as soon as i enter i can't press a Fing button and get one shotted lol its ridiculous ESO seriously needs to sort its **** out.

MaxwellC

Well In PvP I do address that somewhere in the sea of words that PvP is the worse especially around prime time that's when the game shows it's horrible faults that has yet to be fixed.

ButtersEP

Yup & yup, oh what fun....

MaxwellC

Trying to get this maelstrom arena done with a good score but man the frame rate is so horrid. @ZOS_GinaBruno do you have an ETA for when this would be fixed?

mtwiggz

Lag has gotten progressively worse every DLC, contrary to the patch notes stating they have put in small fixes to reduce lag.

It's becoming pathetic.

MaxwellC

@mtwiggz
Yup and it's getting to the point where solo instance gameplay with groups and by yourself is becoming literally unplayable.

mtwiggz

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@mtwiggz
Yup and it's getting to the point where solo instance gameplay with groups and by yourself is becoming literally unplayable.

Sure is. I desperately would like a Maelstrom 2H, but every time I get to round 6 my game turns into a slide show. I've completed the content a few times, but at the cost of many hours when it shouldn't take even a quarter of that amount of time. Most due to latency deaths, or latency forced restarts, or game freeze.

MaxwellC

Yup so far I've died 3 times thanks to lag, I even recorded a couple so people can see what I'm talking about.

Audioraincloud

i've only been able to finish vMA recently, around a month ago probably. i never had enough time to sit down and grind it out, but once the save came in i could figure out the last 2 stages and went on to finish on my gimpy bosmer magblade and sorc. since then i've ran it close to 50 times, at least three times a day since then... i've yet to have a single run where i don't get dashboarded, i've lost countless lives and flawless runs to lag kills, and all of this in addition to not seeing a single Destro Staff. While i'm not surprised by the staff, my luck is horrid, close to 100 wgt runs before i got a inpen kena helm, this lag has destroyed any enjoyment in completing maelstrom. It's a complete crapshoot now and i dedicate my whole day to running it so i can take breaks and go lag out in dailies when vMA gets unplayable. I've made numerous complaints about this, pretty sure all of my discussions are about the PVE lag, i haven't seen a single response from ZOS, all they have is the stupid patch notes "fix" that only serve to destroy another part of PVE, i.e. their complete destruction and fail at patching vMOL with synergy phase...

in COA, i've had 3 runs where no one gets kicked when crossing the bridge out of proabable 20+ runs in the last 2 weeks, and they're going to NERF this?? it's intollerable where ZOS puts it's focus, quality control is almost completely abandoned. last week while watching a xbone guild run vMOL a dev was in twitch chat and was completely unaware of the vMA lag, PLEASE ZOS, FIX THIS.

with all the nerfs you guys keep putting out there, vMOL and vMA are all that's left for some of us... i've put well over 6000 hours into this game and it's so sad to see it falling apart right now. You guys listen to the general population of ESO and your streamers but ignore the people who put their lives into this game.

MaxwellC

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/17099519
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/17100927
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/17101037
The last clip shows me struggling thanks to the lag

Skip about 30 seconds into the video ended up being un-able to move at the end GG

Foreverxghosty

susmitds wrote: »

IMO Lag is random tbh. It is usually not there, but when it is, there is nothing much to do.

I hate when say this about eso. do you even play the game lag is always there

MaxwellC

Yeah when someone says it's random lag I feel like they should try doing a trial, dungeon, or vMSA. Those areas receive a lot of lag for some reason I do not comprehend.

Kalifas

I have noticed alot of stuttering since the DB patch and I rarely lagged before. I run most other great graphic mmos locked at 4k 60fps so I was getting irritated.

Thevampirenight

I think they will have made a lot of changes come dark brotherhood, so it might reduce the lag, maybe getting rid of code they don't need. Possibly removing the vet ranks also will help with the lag problem.

MaxwellC

@Thevampirenight

I'm not sure if I can be hopeful after being promised the same thing each new DLC. I'd like for them to maybe give us list of improvements and how they went about doing it if anything.

MaxwellC

This pretty much sums up each and every wave I play
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Maxwell/video/17100927

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please answer when will there be an ETA to fix the horrendous lag plaguing solo instances and group instances such as vMSA,Trials,and Group Dungeons? It's completely ridiculous how this issue continues to play players yet there's no ETA addressing this issue at all. I know I'm not the only one experiencing the issue when you can just ask someone in a populated area about their experience doing trials or dungeons.

Yesterday was a prime example, I did a group finder and found someone for vet city of ash; we were a dominating random group (the other 3 actually knew each other so they just needed a random). The only thing that was causing our deaths (which was less than 5 ) was the lag making it difficult to have abilities connect, switch to another bar, and avoid random combo kills thanks to not being able to see anything