NO dungeon NO raid , for the next DLC ?

Apherius

hi ! look this :

Dark DLC

Join the Dark Brotherhood and become an assassin for hire
Visit theGold Coast available to characters of all levels, where you can explore Anvil and Kvatch for the first time since The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Hours of exciting story content and quests that will have you revisiting your favorite areas of Tamriel
New, repeatable quest content involving Contracts and the Black Sacrament
Challenging new group bosses and delves to conquer
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Dark Brotherhood
Unique costumes, motifs and item sets inspired by the deadly Dark Brotherhood

Thieves DLC

Join the iconic Thieves Guild for the first time in ESO
Hew's Bane, a new zone available to characters of all levels and home of Abah's Landing, the Thieves Guild headquarters, located in the southern peninsula of Hammerfell
Hours of exciting new story content and quests that will take you through all your favorite areas of Tamriel
A challenging, new 12-player trial: Maw of Lorkhaj
Formidable new group bosses and delves to conquer
The addition of new criminal activities
A new passive skill line exclusive to members of the Thieves Guild
Unique costumes, motifs, and item sets inspired by the devious Thieves Guild .

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so , same easy dungeon with motif on the final boss , same easy group boss with motif to farm ... i hope that it will not be as small as thieves guild
and Where is the New dungon of the new content ? no raid ? no dungeon ? just roleplay for PVE guys ? i'm alone to think than they will lose a lot of players if they not introduce new dungeon ?

ButtersEP

Oh yay..... new delves...............

emily3989

I would expect a size about halfway betw TG and Orsinium.

code65536

I'm okay with no new trial, since we just got MoL, and they're revamping Sanctum.

I'm disappointed by the lack of any new 4-person content.

I'm very disappointed that, on top of not introducing any new 4-person content since September of last year, that they are going to "rebalance" (probably "nerf") the only existing 4-person content that's of any challenge.

tinythinker

ButtersEP wrote: »

Oh yay..... new delves...............

Ten story delves with forty foot flame monsters hurling meteors.

ButtersEP

code65536 wrote: »

I'm okay with no new trial, since we just got MoL, and they're revamping Sanctum.

I'm disappointed by the lack of any new 4-person content.

I'm very disappointed that, on top of not introducing any new 4-person content since September of last year, that they are going to "rebalance" (probably "nerf") the only existing 4-person content that's of any challenge.

I'm actually pretty shocked by this myself

Flaminir

code65536 wrote: »

I'm okay with no new trial, since we just got MoL, and they're revamping Sanctum.

I'm disappointed by the lack of any new 4-person content.

I'm very disappointed that, on top of not introducing any new 4-person content since September of last year, that they are going to "rebalance" (probably "nerf") the only existing 4-person content that's of any challenge.

^^^This.

Since the other dungeons can be done blind folded, if they are 'Re Balancing' the IC dungeons then that can only mean a nerf.

Which is a shame... I thought they had learnt their lesson with having easier normal mode, and harder vet mode stuff with MA & MoL. Why go back and nerf vet modes on dungeons that are meant to be harder. Especially as there is no mention of any new 4person content.

Zorrashi

You got Maw of Lorkhaj with the last DLC. DB will be revamping Sanctum Ophidia so that it is more up-to-par with current standards.

So its not like you guys are completely forgotten. But I can see why you are a bit bummed. Hopefully if the Sanctum revamp goes well, that means they will revamp the others.

ButtersEP

Zorrashi wrote: »

You got Maw of Lorkhaj with the last DLC. DB will be revamping Sanctum Ophidia so that it is more up-to-par with current standards.

So its not like you guys are completely forgotten. But I can see why you are a bit bummed. Hopefully if the Sanctum revamp goes well, that means they will revamp the others.

Not all players have the ability to get 12 people to play Maw, fortunately I do, but can only be done on the weekends, thus a serious lack of content as a whole.

Apherius

ok so ... VMOL or SO . when you do this ? in the evening right ? so .. WE pve player's , what do we have for fun the morning and the afternoon ? ( i know ... WGT and ICP . but if we have got all succes of theses dungons ? )

redspecter23

Revamped Sanctum is less than I was hoping for but more than I was expecting as far as trials go. I'll be happy with that.

tinythinker

redspecter23 wrote: »

Revamped Sanctum is less than I was hoping for but more than I was expecting as far as trials go. I'll be happy with that.

Probably wanted to try just one to see if they break it really bad before even thinking about touching the others...

Suru

I mean....the number of times I get asked to do vDSA for a master bow or sword...is pretty often even tho its vr14 gear...... New 4 man content would be lovely.

BlackEar

I hope they don't nerf IC. It's hard to get 12 people together for trials so having somewhat difficult 4man is nice. VDSA revamp love it, but please keep IC.

dotlife

I must say, as 4 man content is also my absolute favorite way to play, that having nothing new in this area is disappointing. If they even tone down vICP and WGT then there is vMA left when it comes to small scale PVE. And while i found vMA fun and rewarding to complete, it is ofcause still solo play.
The rest of the dungeons will be extremely forgiving with increased cp cap, new gear etc. I hope this is not a sign that another game is moving towards a no effort needed, no responsability towards group members needed caused by content being practically soloable, type of a game - by this i mean a catering to the Instagratification crowd, that always feel intitled to getting spoonfed and constantly feel mistreated when the food is either too hot or cold. They afterall pay so they should have the right to experience ALL. End rant.

Why play if it dos'nt make you break atleast a bit of a sweat. Why be afraid of having to endure a bit of a learning experience that is set in a pleasurable setting even. Anyways we need challenging content outside of trails please. It would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards.

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NewBlacksmurf

Well we should get some access to Craglorn stuff "should" so maybe step 1 is remove VR with DB and step 2 as incremental is rolling out group delves and Craglorn trials

All Craglorn delves should be in the random dungeon tools anyways

tinythinker

dotlife wrote: »

I must say, as 4 man content is also my absolute favorite way to play, that having nothing new in this area is disappointing. If they even tone down vICP and WGT then there is vMA left when it comes to small scale PVE. And while i found vMA fun and rewarding to complete, it is ofcause still solo play.
The rest of the dungeons will be extremely forgiving with increased cp cap, new gear etc. I hope this is not a sign that another game is moving towards a no effort needed, no responsability towards group members needed (cause content is practically soloable, type of game - by this i mean a catering to the Instagratification crowd, that always feel intitled to getting spoonfed and constantly feel mistreated when the foot is either too hot or cold. They afterall pay so they should have the right to experience ALL. End rant.

Why play if it dos'nt make you break atleast a bit of a sweat. Why be afraid of having to endure a bit of a learning experience that is set in a pleasurable setting even. Anyways we need challenging content outside of trails please. It would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards.

Good thoughts. Welcome to the forum.

Justice31st

No dungeon or raid? Then @ZOS_GinaBruno and the rest of Zenimax has no excuses on why the Cyrodil lag will not be fixed next DB update.

Shader_Shibes

v16 Vicious Ophidian............do want!

Apherius

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

v16 Vicious Ophidian............do want!

yes ! this can be a great stuff in vet 16 but ... what will you do once you have 5 piece of ophidian ?

Averya_Teira

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

v16 Vicious Ophidian............do want!

That's recycled old content they are trying to pass as new content lol... It shouldn't even be In a DLC, should just patch all group content to scale and be done with it, they already have the code/technology/whateverfor it. I mean dungeon are already scaled...

Mush55

Not worth bothering with then, how many times can you run the soon to be nerfed dungeons, Would of at least expected vet versions of dire frost and vaults of madness.

More solo qst 's meh.....

negbert

I'm sure that the vet rank removal has been a massive piece of work. These are quarterly updates. I think your asking for too much.

Massive_Stain

Justice31st wrote: »

No dungeon or raid? Then @ZOS_GinaBruno and the rest of Zenimax has no excuses on why the Cyrodil lag will not be fixed next DB update.

The lag is in Cyrodiil because of a series of updates to address bots. They needed to change the .Net framework because they couldn't keep up with the constant bans/reporting of bots. The lag is there to stay, friend.

OnThaLoose

I'm a bit perplexed. The base game patch appears much more appealing to me than the DB dlc itself. I don't want to sound ungrateful about SO, but I'd MUCHHHH rather have vdsa scaled. Vdsa is the epitome of 4-man content and I believe it should be scaled, or release a new 4 man 10 stage arena simalar to it.

Crafting bags, extra toon slots, etc sound good tho, is it too much to ask vdsa be scaled?

idk

The next DLC is the lazy devs DLC.

Seriously, hoping they are holding back on a nlbug surprise for the DLC. Scaling SO doesn't really count since all trials and vDSA should have been raised to v16.

Bfish22090

good.
more pvp content
less pve content

dimensional

I wonder what scaling will even mean when they remove veteran ranks.

TheDarkShadow

If they make another 4 man and give us more monster and armor sets and then you have to farm that dungeon for hundreds of time before you get the new set then no thanks. I'm not even have all the old sets yet.

lathbury

seems they are trying to get rid of the experienced/ more hardcore pve crowd like they have with most of the pvpers after all then they can concentrate on producing fluff for the crown store and shifting rp dlc's every 3 months